Gaming on a 4K tv will take some getting used too.

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  1. brandiesel1
    brandiesel1 Guest

    Gaming on a 4K tv will take some getting used too.


    It looks so weird. Normally I used a 43” 1080p but last night I bought a Samsung 55” 4K tv. It looks weird. I know games are not in 4K yet, but it seems like pop-up in the game (Mass Effect: Andromeda) is worse now. Not sure if that is the tv or if I notice
    more easily now due to screen size?

    Also, regular tv shows looks fake. It’s like you can tell they are acting and my whole family hates it. Maybe we’re not used to it.

    Hopefully that pop-up stops with the Xbox One X unless it’s the tv causing it.

    Just not used to this size. Might downsize it a bit.

    Picture quality is ridiculously good though.

    :)
     
    brandiesel1, Oct 20, 2017
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  2. Xbox One X 4K Gaming on a 4K UHD ( not HDR ) TV

    I'm getting some mixed feedback from several parties. The Xbox One X supports 4K gaming. That's a step up from the One S which only support 4K media playback.

    Some sources are saying 4K gaming will only work on a 4K HDR TV, not a 4K UHD TV.

    Can you confirm? I'd hate to sink $500 into a new console only to find out i need to replace my 65" 4K UHD TV to use it.
     
    GeoffreyMcCorkle, Oct 20, 2017
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  3. Miller Park
    Miller Park Guest
    Any TV experts out there?

    I need help regarding 4K TVs. I recently bought the 4K Samsung below a couple of days ago, but it's only 60hz. The Sony is 120hz which I thinking about getting. If going solely by the reviews, it looks like the Samsung wins, but there are some specs that
    stand out to me in the Sony TV that make me unsure. Keep in mind I'm going to be using this mainly for gaming—I know consoles don't support 4K gaming yet, but the next consoles will so I'm preparing for that. Don't want to spend too much on a 4K TV when 8K
    should be out this year.

    Thanks for you help.

    Samsung JU6400 Review (UN40JU6400, UN43JU6400, UN48JU6400, UN55JU6400, UN60JU6400, UN65JU6400) - RTINGS.com

    www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x850c
     
    Miller Park, Oct 20, 2017
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  4. User 9242019
    User 9242019 Guest

    Gaming on a 4K tv will take some getting used too.

    Turn off what Samsung calls "auto motion plus" or anything involving smoothing and that will get rid what is referred to as the "Soap Opera Effect"

    There also should be a game mode that can be used to lessen screen lag.
     
    User 9242019, Oct 21, 2017
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  5. You will get used to it.

    I had a Samsung 42" 1080 for seven years and upgraded to a Samsung 50" 4K only two months ago.

    Got my One X on pre-order but still on 360 at the moment and that looks so much sharper on the 4K TV.

    Put YouTube on and search for the 4K vids on there, they will blow your mind with the clarity.

    Even normal DVDs look so much better.
     
    Paraffin Alien, Oct 21, 2017
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  6. Tzar of kaos
    Tzar of kaos Guest
    Yop,check your settings for each input and internet.you tube can be helpful.

    Also even if your source isn't in 4K,your tv should have 4K upscaler.

    On mine (LG) everything is in 4K (it's also the only resolution my tv can do).
     
    Tzar of kaos, Oct 21, 2017
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  7. smileskybird
    smileskybird Guest
    I'm in no rush to get a 4k TV as they're expensive they cost more than the price of an Xbox One X. I have a good Full HD TV so will still enjoy rich visual fidelity from games and the faster dashboard thanks to the better processing power from the X. Faster
    boot up and shutdowns and loading times for games thanks to a FASTER 7200RPM HDD (rather than the 5400rpm which the original and S models have).

    If you have a 1080p TV with HDR, that's great. Samsung and Sony are good brands. They may charge more, but their hardware has a low failure rate and they have good customer support in NZ/Australia too, they're not just an American company with shoddy support
    coverage in Australasia.
     
    smileskybird, Oct 21, 2017
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  8. Gaming on a 4K tv will take some getting used too.

    Technology itself evolve and becomes better each generation.

    That is the best reason to get latest tec you can afford.

    If you use photo manipulating software there are so many options to have impact on clarity of photage.

    Same in camera actually. Selecting Landscape as style you get bluer sky, increased sharpness of details etc.

    Your eyes cannot tell if 4k or 2k of 50" unless you have 40 degrees viewing angle or so, meaning 1.5m viewing distance.

    So that upscaled also give better perceived clarity is about something else but pixels.

    Do calcs like this.

    16/9 aspect tell that size given by manufacturer is 16*16+9*9=337 and square root give 18.36 in relation.

    So 16/18.36=0.87 of 50"=43.6" width(I do 111 cm).

    Half width compared to viewing distance 55.5/150 and take arc tan of that 20.3 degrees which is half viewing angle then so 40.6 degrees which eyes would resolve.

    40.6 degrees and 3840 pixels(just 40.6/3840 multiplied by 60) is 0.63 arc minutes. Regular grown up vision roughly 1 arc minute, and baby 0.4 arc minutes.

    So even here pretty good vision to actually resolve that.

    But brains are amazing things and we will probably perceived better picture without actually resolving each pixel.

    Do same but more normal viewing distance 2m and 2.5m and 3840 pixels width.

    2m and 50"=31 degrees viewing angle and 0.48 arc minutes vision to resolve.

    2.5m and 50"= 25 degrees and 0.39 arc minutes vision.

    This is games outputting all pixels as they are over hdmi.

    Start looking at what happends to video that is streamed and what bitrate you get for H264 as common compression.

    Full HD start looking really good at about 18 Mbps or so bitrate.

    So what is your supplier actually deliver over your internet when you pay for UHD quality - check that out?

    It's better to get full HD at better bitrate than squashing UHD on 20 Mbps or so.

    Here a site to compare how cinemas with even 4k and 5m screens look really good - that makes you think about this pixel hunting, doesn't it:

    RED Digital Cinema | Red 101
     
    BookishFlunky90, Oct 21, 2017
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  9. brandiesel1
    brandiesel1 Guest
    Thanks Jayadub, that fixed it, but frame rate is a little choppy.

    You guys are right, non 4K games still look really good.
     
    brandiesel1, Nov 1, 2018
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  10. brandiesel1 Win User

    Gaming on a 4K tv will take some getting used too.

    Thanks Jayadub, that fixed it, but frame rate is a little choppy.

    You guys are right, non 4K games still look really good.
  11. smileskybird Win User

    Gaming on a 4K tv will take some getting used too.

    I'm in no rush to get a 4k TV as they're expensive they cost more than the price of an Xbox One X. I have a good Full HD TV so will still enjoy rich visual fidelity from games and the faster dashboard thanks to the better processing power from the X. Faster
    boot up and shutdowns and loading times for games thanks to a FASTER 7200RPM HDD (rather than the 5400rpm which the original and S models have).

    If you have a 1080p TV with HDR, that's great. Samsung and Sony are good brands. They may charge more, but their hardware has a low failure rate and they have good customer support in NZ/Australia too, they're not just an American company with shoddy support
    coverage in Australasia.
  12. Tzar of kaos Win User

    Gaming on a 4K tv will take some getting used too.

    Yop,check your settings for each input and internet.you tube can be helpful.

    Also even if your source isn't in 4K,your tv should have 4K upscaler.

    On mine (LG) everything is in 4K (it's also the only resolution my tv can do).
  13. Paraffin Alien Win User

    Gaming on a 4K tv will take some getting used too.

    You will get used to it.

    I had a Samsung 42" 1080 for seven years and upgraded to a Samsung 50" 4K only two months ago.

    Got my One X on pre-order but still on 360 at the moment and that looks so much sharper on the 4K TV.

    Put YouTube on and search for the 4K vids on there, they will blow your mind with the clarity.

    Even normal DVDs look so much better.
  14. User 9242019 Win User

    Gaming on a 4K tv will take some getting used too.

    Turn off what Samsung calls "auto motion plus" or anything involving smoothing and that will get rid what is referred to as the "Soap Opera Effect"

    There also should be a game mode that can be used to lessen screen lag.
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