Forced Crossplay (M&K vs Controller) is killing console fun

JohnnyNorCal · Dec 23, 2021

I’m not trying to pick on PC players. I understand that crossplay is a nice addition for people who have friends on multiple platforms. It’s particularly amazing to have in PVE and CO-OP game modes to just have a great time with a wide base of players far and wide.

My argument is to Microsoft and all the developers who have crossplay turned “ON” by default in the competitive play space.

The past few years have been the worst for controller players in the competitive play space. COD Warzone, Apex, Battlefield 2042, Halo Infinite all have enable crossplay “ON” by default and either force crossplay with no option to turn it off, or when it’s turned off no servers can be found.

To me, this is the absolute death of consoles moving forward. My experience being forced to go up against mouse and keyboard players has killed my will to even want to play online or try to compete in adversarial games because of the huge disadvantage that controller players have.

It absolutely blows my mind that this has happened with little or no regard to the loyal console controller fan base.

Yes, there are options in-game and on a system setting level to turn it off, however, my experience doing this has produced little to absolutely zero game connections. Also, I’m a console and controller player by heart for the last 30+ years of my life. I don’t want to game on M&K, let alone go up against them on uneven hardware, precision, and highly possible cheating mods.

It’s a sad day for us console players. This topic should probably be the single biggest topic in the gaming community regarding its disregard for the console/controller player but I never see any attention on a large media or corporate scale.

I realize this comes off as whiny, but it’s the truth of how I feel and it’s killed my drive to want to play at all. My biggest interest is FPS games online and every game that ends I come out feeling so bitter because I know for a fact that I was not on a level playing field. I try to just have fun, but I feel like a fish in a barrel.

To Microsoft and Developers, please stop forcing crossplay between mouse and keyboard vs controller players especially in any online competitive game. Most people have no issue going up against controller players on PlayStation but not when someone is using M&K on PC. It’s just fundamentally and ethically wrong to do such a thing.

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drewfrederick

100% I’m with you it should be our choice but I have played on Xbox for 15 years and I’m ready to buy a PlayStation just because they care about their community and have to option to enable crossplay we’re just a bunch of sitting ducks with all the advantages pc has plus idc if they say we’re whining they just want people to play with and can purchase a console instead I’m done with Microsoft if they don’t change it soon

TKH CLASSiFiED

Or possibly make it input based. I've seen a few games with crossplay settings that are Xbox/PS only, Controller only, MnK only, allow all. MS is just trying to stay alive in PC gaming because it made the company in the 90s. #RIPGameSpy

Farscape247

you do realise that pc players outnumber all consoles combined in a massive way, cross platform and cross play are the future. and who in there right mind will play a fighting game on keyboard and mouse lol, controller or proper gaming joystick is where its at.

i play lots of games on pc and console and many many games on console are a wasteland with nobody playing, go to the same game on pc and instant full lobbies all the time.

lolwut2

the choice should also be input based, again locking out any cross inputs by default.

That would actually solve everything without touching the crossplay feature and would make more sense, if not mistaken there are MP games that don't let you switch to another control device once you started it (if started game with controller then stuck with controller, same for K&M), they should simply work on that side and have the lobby populated only by controller if chosen so (or K&M if chosen so) and all together if chosen so too.

I keep hearing people complaining on both sides, controller users complain mouse players have better aim and faster movements, mouse players complain controller users have unfair aim assist.

I find reason in both, while I still think a mouse is better than aim assist.

I guess that would indeed be the best way to look at it, completely ignore the platform and stick to control device rules.

lolwut2

Issue is not having cross play, it is good to have cross play and I am 100% in favor and on all the games.

The issue is the lack of choice:

There should be 3 options and not just 2:

Full Cross Play

Console Only Cross Play

Xbox Only

They just need to implement "Console Only Cross Play", that's all, CrossPlay itself is not the issue and is a big win for gamers.

For example, I don't anymore but I used to play countless hours of Destiny2 in PvE mostly, I am not a fan of shoot.die.repeat over and over without objectives as most MP game modes are, but my buddies playing with me were both on PC, so we can see that PC crossplay is good, it allowed me to have fun with my buddies on PC. Same with Gears of War 5.

I could say MP is garbage because I don't like it and it should be removed, but I prefer to have the choice, MP is there and I simply don't use it.

Same with crossplay, crossplay is not bad, the lack of choice is.

As someone also mentioned and rightfully, some console games have native support for K&M, hence even without crossplay there will be chances to land on people using it on console, I for one have a buddy that is glued to Warzone on PS4 and plays with K&M on monitor.

And on a last note, some would be surprised on how many people "cheat the system" by using XIM and Cronus devices and such, don't fool yourselves into thinking that console only will get rid of all the unbalance.

Forced Crossplay (M&K vs Controller) is killing console fun