Can't Copy Epic Cloud Save Over Game Pass Cloud Save,... why!?

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  1. Chuter44
    Chuter44 Guest

    Can't Copy Epic Cloud Save Over Game Pass Cloud Save,... why!?


    I have completed everything in World War Z after claiming the game FREE on Epic Games, and then upgrading to Aftermath.

    I want to play the game through Game Pass now since the social options on Epic Games are horrible.

    I have Game Pass Ultimate, and downloaded World War Z.

    It is easy to open the folder for EPIC, or STEAM containing my Cloud Save files, and simply copy them,...

    https://ibb.co/jMYY7gj

    For some reason I can't simply paste it into the Cloud Save folder for WWZ. The Game Pass Cloud Save folder is encrypted!!! (No one else's is FFS!!!)

    https://ibb.co/k3c2nVV

    So I used a program online to find out what I needed to know to re-name my Epic Game Cloud Save files, and copy them over

    https://ibb.co/XWMW629

    After knowing this information I was able to re-name my Epic Game Cloud Save files to match the Game Pass ones, and then copy them over to the Game Pass Cloud Save folder overwriting the old ones, but this simply did NOT work like it does for Epic, and Steam, offline, online, or when asked to sync new files after launching the game. Probably because of the container file. I dunno for sure. Tried all day long to get this to work.

    I know you can use this method, and simply take the Game Pass files, rename them, paste to Epic, or Steam Cloud Save folder, and it works,... so why doesn't it work when I do it in reverse when I want to come to Game Pass to play!?

    Why is the folder containing my Cloud Save for WWZ on Game Pass encrypted for anyway!?

    This would be MY Game Save location, and I want access to it, either to copy, or back-up saves.

    I do NOT,... well will NOT complete the entire game over again.

    Game Pass also loses out on my purchase because of this since until I make this work I will NOT purchase Aftermath through Game Pass.

    This should be simple, and easy to do, but for some reason is not,... Microsoft always,... ugh.

    I simply wanna continue the game on Game Pass. I'm NOT cheating. I already did all the HARD work.

    What if I wanted to back-up my Game Pass Cloud Save also!?

    How can I get this to work!!!???

    It's bad enough the mess of my SSD's Game Pass makes to begin with creating it's own volume for each install, and now I can't have access to all the files either!?

    Looking for answers with results here BIG time please!!!

    Chuter.

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    Chuter44, Apr 5, 2022
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  2. Ricardo Lechuga Win User

    Can't Copy Epic Cloud Save Over Game Pass Cloud Save,... why!?

    Being able to move cloud saves does not mean that is what the game developers intended, as that's not how cross saves works.

    I guess that the way Xbox saves works helps to avoid cheating on games, but if you really like the game, don't lose the opportunity to test yourself again on it, I would never be angry about having to play a game I like again.
  3. Farscape247 Win User

    Can't Copy Epic Cloud Save Over Game Pass Cloud Save,... why!?

    microsoft opted to use the file structure that way as their DRM. they are making changes which insiders can use on some games which allow installs where you want them.

    the game on gamepass uses cloud saves, for console to pc or vice versa, those cloud saves on that version of the game are stored on the xbox network, microsoft does not allow changes to those saves to mitigate cheating and potential modding or gamerscore/achievement cheating, hence why you cannot just simply copy them over.

    And as it is using the xbox network they can pretty much do as they like. If the dev/publisher chose too, they can enable cross save which then means they would have a central place for their cloud saves and you can access that on any platform that allows it, as long as you have an account with the dev/publisher and that was signed in on the game.

    The reason you can transfer the save from epic to steam and vice versa is they allow it.

    Bottom line, if the game uses cloud save on xbox network (meaning you can use that save on console and pc) then they will not allow modification or importing of a save file from another platform.
  4. Chuter44 Win User

    Can't Copy Epic Cloud Save Over Game Pass Cloud Save,... why!?

    Yes,... they are.

    That's why I am here.

    They are Cloud Saves the same as any other Cloud Save game.

    The developers did add a way to cross save. It's called Cloud Saves, but you (Microsoft) for some reason have made a mess of the Cloud Save folder unlike other platforms.

    This is PC. not inferior consoles. PC, Steam, & Epic Games all use the same Cloud Save system.

    Yes, they are compatible, but you (Microsoft) have simply encrypted them, or something on your end so they aren't,... (NO need for it.)

    If they are not compatible then why can I take the Game Pass save game files, re-name them, and apply them to Steam, or Epic, but not from them to you!!!???

    I can take the contents of the WWZ Cloud Save files on Game Pass, re-name them to the proper Cloud Save names, copy & paste to Epic, or Steam Cloud Save folders, and BAM all my progress shows up in game.

    Why can't I apply my Cloud Save to Game Pass so I don't lose my progress when changing Game Launchers? Why only Microsoft denies this option!?

    Steam & Epic don't have some silly index & container file also slammed in the folder with broken extensions, and coded names, but you do for some reason???

    Yes,... I understand your (Microsoft) not compatible, and that's what I am here to fix, or find a work around for.

    There is NO good reason for you to encrypt the Cloud Save files, and I will find a way around this eventually.

    Microsoft has simply decided to make life difficult for some reason unlike ALL other Cloud Save game launchers at a loss to them selves also which makes this even more stupid,.... thanks.

    I know who ever figures this out first is going to have one popular YouTube video.

    Why even try to make them un-compatible for??? Gamer loses out,... Microsoft gains nothing. Loses money if anything. Dumb.

    They aren't even really encrypted,... just renamed with a broken file extension, and then Game Pass has an extra file that makes sure they match up on sync which is stupid. If I wanna move over my progress it should be as easy as Epic & Steam,... not all this crapolla!!!

    I must have agreed to this encrypted mess, and a mess of my SSD. volumes when I signed up eh!?

    A little bit frustrated at this point. This has already consumed two days of my time, and have also passed the issue on to some big time GEEKS to see what they can come up with. I can usually beat something like this, but not yet QQ. :(

    Issue NOT solved,...

    Next reply please,.....

    Looking for answers.

    Chuter.
  5. SwordofWhedon Win User

    Can't Copy Epic Cloud Save Over Game Pass Cloud Save,... why!?

    The Xbox cloud saves are for Xbox.

    The save files and data structure are not compatible

    Unless the developer sets up a system using their servers, like Borderlands and GTA have done, it won't work
  6. Ricardo Lechuga Win User

    Can't Copy Epic Cloud Save Over Game Pass Cloud Save,... why!?

    Hi Chuter44! My name is Ricardo an independent advisor ready to help you with this situation!

    Game files from other platforms are not compatible with cloud saves on Xbox, you can't bring your progress from other platforms unless the developers have activated cross saves
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