ZPG: Too slow + Too Weak.

Discus and support ZPG: Too slow + Too Weak. in XBoX Games and Apps to solve the problem; It's so unbalanced compared to the other explosive weapons in the game. Chili bean blow up anything in a 10ft radius, but with the ZPG you need a... Discussion in 'XBoX Games and Apps' started by THE ACTI0N MAN, Feb 28, 2014.

  1. ZPG: Too slow + Too Weak.


    It's so unbalanced compared to the other explosive weapons in the game. Chili bean blow up anything in a 10ft radius, but with the ZPG you need a direct hit or the enemy must have like only 30% health.

    I get that it's range is a benefit, but when it barely does any damage it's useless. I completed the ranking task "Get 2 kills with a ZPG X amount of times" OMG it took FOREVER. I basically had to hit the enemy a bunch, pray they didn't die from my Primary,
    then hope they didn't move too far from the ZPG.

    Awesome game, though. Loving every second of this!

    :)
     
    THE ACTI0N MAN, Feb 28, 2014
    #1
  2. AK 47

    I have a class with it too, but it is much worse in this game than it is in MW2.

    .

    MW3 it's too weak, has too slow a fire rate and has too much recoil by comparison.
     
    ChainSmokingBob, Feb 28, 2014
    #2
  3. Lord Dirt
    Lord Dirt Guest
    Tribute to Dom

    Nope, too weak and too much like a baby
     
    Lord Dirt, Feb 28, 2014
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  4. Veroku Chan
    Veroku Chan Guest

    ZPG: Too slow + Too Weak.

    The ranged factor is exactly why it has so little area of effect damage. I've seen people snipe plants from across the map with the ZPG. I've wasted more Chili Beans than I have ZPG shots, just because the chili bean can be avoided a lot easier when you
    see a person chuck one out.
     
    Veroku Chan, Feb 28, 2014
    #4
  5. I just wait to use the ZPG until I see a peapod or sunflower plant itself, then it's a one-hit KO. Also, firing it into a cluster of people grouped around a heal flower seems to be pretty effective.

    I certainly wouldn't want it to do any more damage than it currently does and I think the flight speed is fine.
     
    Jaximus Decimus, Mar 1, 2014
    #5
  6. Not flight speed, firing speed. Like it would be nice to rocket jump and fire off a ZPG, but it's impossible unless you're already way up.

    Also as far as weapons of mass destruction are concerned. Plants have far more. When they flood the Garden in Overtime they have the highest probability of winning because they have so many defensive and powerful weapons. All Zombies can do is Cone Strike.
    ZPG isn't going to save you unless 3 or more zombies all fire at the same time.
     
    THE ACTI0N MAN, Mar 1, 2014
    #6
  7. marknally
    marknally Guest
    I find the engineer quite good for capping the garden, if you chuck in your stun, then start hopping and firing around then it's quite hard to stop a few guys doing this, the best defense the plants have against that is the potato mines which can be shot
    out in the mayhem. The other thing that is a killer is if you have a good couple of peashooter guys dropping chilli bombs.

    Honestly I think the game is very well balanced, probably one of the best in a long time.
     
    marknally, Mar 2, 2014
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  8. ZPG: Too slow + Too Weak.

    It's not that balanced, because Plants have FAR more explosive instant kill type moves. And to exacerbate things they have the far easier task: Defense.

    I mean look at the Sceintist's bomb. So pathetic! I am trying to get the vanquish rank with sticky explody ball. I have actually stuck people that were damaged, and the explosion is so weak they survive. If a chili bomb can kill you from 10ft away, having
    a bomb stuck on your face should also do the trick. . .But it doesn't.
     
    THE ACTI0N MAN, Mar 2, 2014
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  9. Jearnsy
    Jearnsy Guest
    I love the ZPG. I have countless clips of me pegging people from across the map. I even got the double ZPG kill while firing from a long distance. I've never once thought it was too weak. If I have aimed at someone and I hit them, they vanquished, so that
    works for me.
     
    Jearnsy, Mar 3, 2014
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  10. Here's a perfect example of how it's AoE is so underpowered.

    There was a Sun Flower, flush in a corner. I was being attacked by multiple enemies, so I had no time to aim, but I fired off a shot and it looked like it hit but apparently I hit the wall behind it. Now this thing was like an inch away.

    Anyway the sun flower beamed me and I died so it showed me two things:

    A. How close to the wall the Sunflower was.

    B. How much health he had. . .61%

    So hitting an inch away the AoE only did 39% damage. Now compare that to the Chili Bomb, Corn Strike, and Potato Mine. All of those will kill you within a 5-15ft radius. ZPG. . .Within a 1 inch radius does 39% damage.

    Now I know it's intended to be precision. I've gotten countless kills that way, but I feel it should still do more damage if you are hitting people within inches of their bodies.
     
    THE ACTI0N MAN, Mar 4, 2014
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  11. Deathnad
    Deathnad Guest
    The ZPG is a bunker buster, does the most damage against rooted plants, otherwise it is AOE strike. I've been killed several times by it at or near 100% the damage is fine, with the faster cooldown and range than the chili bean it is balanced.
     
    Deathnad, Mar 5, 2014
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  12. I have yet to see it kill anyone with 100% that isn't hit directly. I get hit with ZPGs all the time and I just shrug it off as the 'sprinkle' of damage that it is (As long as it doesn't contact me directly).

    Compared to the splash damage of the Chili bomb. . .That thing has killed me full rocket jump in the air height. That thing's range is ridiculous.
     
    THE ACTI0N MAN, Nov 1, 2018
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  13. THE ACTI0N MAN Win User

    ZPG: Too slow + Too Weak.

    I have yet to see it kill anyone with 100% that isn't hit directly. I get hit with ZPGs all the time and I just shrug it off as the 'sprinkle' of damage that it is (As long as it doesn't contact me directly).

    Compared to the splash damage of the Chili bomb. . .That thing has killed me full rocket jump in the air height. That thing's range is ridiculous.
  14. Jearnsy Win User

    ZPG: Too slow + Too Weak.

    I love the ZPG. I have countless clips of me pegging people from across the map. I even got the double ZPG kill while firing from a long distance. I've never once thought it was too weak. If I have aimed at someone and I hit them, they vanquished, so that
    works for me.
  15. THE ACTI0N MAN Win User

    ZPG: Too slow + Too Weak.

    Here's a perfect example of how it's AoE is so underpowered.

    There was a Sun Flower, flush in a corner. I was being attacked by multiple enemies, so I had no time to aim, but I fired off a shot and it looked like it hit but apparently I hit the wall behind it. Now this thing was like an inch away.

    Anyway the sun flower beamed me and I died so it showed me two things:

    A. How close to the wall the Sunflower was.

    B. How much health he had. . .61%

    So hitting an inch away the AoE only did 39% damage. Now compare that to the Chili Bomb, Corn Strike, and Potato Mine. All of those will kill you within a 5-15ft radius. ZPG. . .Within a 1 inch radius does 39% damage.

    Now I know it's intended to be precision. I've gotten countless kills that way, but I feel it should still do more damage if you are hitting people within inches of their bodies.
  16. THE ACTI0N MAN Win User

    ZPG: Too slow + Too Weak.

    Not flight speed, firing speed. Like it would be nice to rocket jump and fire off a ZPG, but it's impossible unless you're already way up.

    Also as far as weapons of mass destruction are concerned. Plants have far more. When they flood the Garden in Overtime they have the highest probability of winning because they have so many defensive and powerful weapons. All Zombies can do is Cone Strike.
    ZPG isn't going to save you unless 3 or more zombies all fire at the same time.
  17. Jaximus Decimus Win User

    ZPG: Too slow + Too Weak.

    I just wait to use the ZPG until I see a peapod or sunflower plant itself, then it's a one-hit KO. Also, firing it into a cluster of people grouped around a heal flower seems to be pretty effective.

    I certainly wouldn't want it to do any more damage than it currently does and I think the flight speed is fine.
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