Xbox Series X is not very streamer friendly tbh. Here's why.

DragonVibin' · Dec 21, 2021

For a few years now, when you want to start streaming, you would always hear people say "well, in order to stream you need a capture card to stream" which until the new Series X came out, was completely wrong. You could, quite easily, start streaming what you're doing on Xbox to your PC which you could then record and stream using an OBS software on your PC seperately.

It was a simple way for me to stream to twitch, YouTube, and Facebook. in the three weeks I was streaming at the time, it helped me get thirty followers on Twitch and 3 subs on YouTube, Which was HUGE to me, with that being my first weeks ever streaming.

Then the Xbox Series X came around and completely ruined everything.
See, the first time I tried to get my stream set up for the first time on my Series X (was thinking of titles that had to do with "Let's see how the Series X handles streaming" or something like that) when the app was basically like "oh, you have a new console and want to do something that a past gen console could do? lol what? You thought this was an improvement? Nah, we've partnered with all of the capture card companies, and we make a bunch more money making you buy those things than if we were to keep this function accessible."

Was this intentional? Did you mean to make people buy unnecessary hardware when you already have a functioning app? Is this something that is being worked on? Or should I just make the full transition to a PC Streamer and just sell my Xbox? Did I really just waste money recently on games that I would've liked to have shared with my stream?

I'd like to get my old setup back and running so that I can successfully grow my community and maybe be able to afford to do it full time. Please don't make me give up on my favorite console. But if you force me to buy hardware that I can't afford, then that just might make me do so.

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DragonVibin'

Now, before anyone hops on the ban wagon.

I am always bunt (so many references that I could make there lol), but I have remained respectful and profanity free (which has been hard lol).

But as I see no one involved (microsoft or any other company) is contributing to me and my channels success, I'm under no obligation to turn a blind eye and to not call things out.

DragonVibin'

What was that about "Windows app once again supports streaming."?

That is clearly still nonfuctional

SwordofWhedon

Streaming from XSX is not the same as streaming from Xbox One. Different rendering pipelines, different video encoders different a lot of things. It’s not cut and paste.

Streaming to a PC is low priority compared to party chat, not crashing constantly and other things

If you’ll remember, the same thing happened with Xbox One when they rewrote major sections of the OS six months out from launch. I got my MCSE too, but none of that is applicable to development of a piece of electronics, and the software that drives it. While APIs may exist, they were not implemented in the broadcasting hardware. I don’t think you have a good concept of the development pipeline, and how not being at the office can impact that

Without direct local access to the network, and hundreds of gigabytes of assets, they need to travel across civilian connections. To give you an idea Every single developer has been affected, which you see in the repeated delays. This is illustrated in this anectdote from Eurogamer about WiiU development

“Then it had to do the link step, at which point you could happily get up, make a cup of tea, have a chat and get back to your desk before the link was complete. Link times were measured in multiple (four or more) minutes on Wii U compared to around one minute on other platforms.

This doesn't sound bad, but when you are debugging and making lots of changes, these additional times add up. If you made 10 changes to a file in a morning, you could be spending over 50 minutes waiting for the linker to complete, which is a lot of wasted time.”

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-secret-developers-wii-u-the-inside-story

Now add a connection that’s 10 times minimum slower than the one you’re used to using to the external network.

Yes the linker and devkit is local, but a great deal of development of all products these days is entirely server based so that teams can work on them easily. You’re going to be pulling stuff remotely.

Streaming to PC represents a tiny fraction of users, so it was likely prioritized as such. The go/no go for launch on the console happens close to a year in advance, but the time the pandemic got bad, the machine was already in full gear. In March 2020 they were popping processors and boards by the thousand.

I’m not saying your needs aren’t important, but every single company across the board are having these kinds of issues. It took Sony a year to turn in NVME m.2 support, while Xbox had all forms of additional storage online day one. Arguably, that’s a far greater problem for end users.

I’m happy to explain further or elaborate to the limits of my knowledge and experience I’d you’d like.

Christopher Revoredo

Hi there DragonVibin welcome to the community forum! Christopher here, an Xbox fan just like you and has been on Xbox for years already. I would really love to make your day by helping you out. Fellow streamer here, unfortunately as you said, for the moment we need extra hardware to stream on stream.io or streamelements, OBS, etc. I totally understand the frustration of all this streaming deal.

SwordofWhedon

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2021/09/14/new-updates-to-xbox-app-on-windows-10/

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Xbox Series X is not very streamer friendly tbh. Here's why.