Xbox One X with internal SSD coming soon.

Discus and support Xbox One X with internal SSD coming soon. in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; Happy April Fools XD. Well at least it wasnt another 'its microsofts birthday' what i got a lot of from Xbox players several years ago. But it would... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by smileskybird, Apr 18, 2018.

  1. smileskybird
    smileskybird Guest

    Xbox One X with internal SSD coming soon.


    Happy April Fools XD.

    Well at least it wasnt another 'its microsofts birthday' what i got a lot of from Xbox players several years ago.

    But it would be great if they rolled out one since an ssd has way faster boot up saving and loading times. O well.

    :)
     
    smileskybird, Apr 18, 2018
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  2. Is it still better to use external hard drive for load times on X1X?

     
    BadBadGodJeremy, Apr 18, 2018
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  3. pa1blo
    pa1blo Guest
    Xbox One Elite 1TB

    xbox one elite

    is the same as xbox one original plus a SSD internal, not have 4k resolution, or HDR
     
    pa1blo, Apr 18, 2018
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  4. Shaggy2000
    Shaggy2000 Guest

    Xbox One X with internal SSD coming soon.

    Ok, two things.

    1: It isn't April 1st and hasn't been for two weeks......................so welcome to two weeks ago.

    2: If they did do an SSD version, the internal HDD would be tiny (maybe 250GB if your lucky) or it would be really expensive.

    For example, a 1TB internal HDD is roughly £35, you cant get an SDD for that, the cheapest is roughly £60 for 250GB. To get a 1TB SDD you are looking at between £200 and £300.
     
    Shaggy2000, Apr 19, 2018
    #4
  5. SSDs are way too expensive to provide a good price to performance ratio at the moment I agree. SSHDs are far better value for money, even if they don't provide the same sort of speed boost at startup.

    Also the in game benefit of an SSD is almost non-existent. Very few games load directly from the drive these days, loading first into the RAM instead. You won't see a difference in FPS and loading times will get a marginal speedup but nothing that would warrant
    the higher price of an SSD.

    To be honest I've always wondered why bootup time is mentioned so much in relation to SSDs. Just how often are people starting and shutting down and then restarting again to make a few extra seconds that important? Also Windows 10 when you tell it to shutdown
    doesn't fully shutdown your system on PC, instead it goes into a low power state very similar to Hibernate or Sleep mode, so you get similar startup times no matter the boot device you are using because the system is being held in RAM.
     
    Zen Like Calm, Apr 19, 2018
    #5
  6. Shaggy2000
    Shaggy2000 Guest
    Boot up time on my Xbox One is only a few seconds anyway, only once in a while do I do a full restart.
     
    Shaggy2000, Apr 20, 2018
    #6
  7. smileskybird
    smileskybird Guest
    You can get SSD's for NZ$400 for a 960GB one, NZ$200 for a 240GB one, and NZ$260 for a 500GB cone. And..... it's still April. So you can fool people IN April, time to be jolly. But thanks for clicking on my thread. And those prices include GST which are
    also sold in my country.

    I have an Xbox One X and it does have a 7200RPM HDD. Well that is at least some improvement from the 5400RPM other consoles (including Xbox 360, though Xbox 360 still starts up faster since it's OS isn't bloated by Windows 10 stuff). It takes about 50 seconds
    for my X console to boot up. And I don't leave my console on 24/7/365. My custom PC only takes 5 seconds to boot up. No moving parts like mechanical 1990's HDD's, and they're smaller too. Granted SSD's have a limit of the number of reads and writes they can
    do. Samsung offers a 5 year warranty on my SSD in my custom desktop. SSD's are just so much more efficient in terms of booting up, saving (takes like a split second to save), and loading (e.g. Final Fantasy XIII takes only 2 seconds to load a save game, where
    as the same game on my Xbox 360 Slim console took 22 seconds to load the save file). Since Xbox One X has a 7200rpm drive, it is..... bearable...... and an improvement which I'm fine with.

    Xbox One X on average takes about 40 seconds to boot up and reach the dashboard home screen. An SSD can do it in 4 seconds. THAT.... is the advantage of an SSD. It's incredibly fast and convenient too.
     
    smileskybird, Apr 20, 2018
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  8. Shaggy2000
    Shaggy2000 Guest

    Xbox One X with internal SSD coming soon.

    Two things:

    1: The custom for April fools is that is done on APRIL THE 1st, not anytime throughout April. That's why its called
    APRIL FOOLS DAY not April fools month.

    2: Your custom PC, does it by chance run Windows 10? With Windows 10 (and I think Windows 8)

    your computer doesn't shut down fully
    , the kernel session isn't closed, instead its just hibernated. Its a very similar way to the Xbox One using "low power mode" in low power mode it takes roughly 5 - 10 seconds to boot up your console.

    But lets say that Microsoft does include an Xbox One X with in internal SSD, a standard Xbox One X with 3 games costs roughly $750 and lets for arguments sake Microsoft gets a really good deal on SSD drives. So for a 1TB to us costs $960, but Microsoft
    gets them for half that. Are you really saying you would buy an Xbox One X for $1230? (im sticking with the 1TB SSD to keep it fair)
     
    Shaggy2000, Apr 24, 2018
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  9. smileskybird
    smileskybird Guest
    I turn my custom desktop PC, off at the wall before I go to bed every night. When I turn it back on at the wall each following day, it only takes 4-8 seconds to boot. It's a good SSD and that's the benefit of SSD. Yes it's more expensive than old mechanical
    HDD's, but it adds a lot more convenience to the user cause fact it is capable of booting up, saving, and loading, way quicker (at least 2x quicker even more) than even a 5400rpm and 7200rpm which is still slower. And yes my PC has Windows 10. It's not exactly
    like my PC has a secret battery inside that keeps it powered 24/7/365.

    It's Microsoft's birthday.... pass the message on.... got to have some fun....
     
    smileskybird, Nov 1, 2018
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  10. smileskybird Win User

    Xbox One X with internal SSD coming soon.

    Ok, two things.

    1: It isn't April 1st and hasn't been for two weeks......................so welcome to two weeks ago.

    2: If they did do an SSD version, the internal HDD would be tiny (maybe 250GB if your lucky) or it would be really expensive.

    For example, a 1TB internal HDD is roughly £35, you cant get an SDD for that, the cheapest is roughly £60 for 250GB. To get a 1TB SDD you are looking at between £200 and £300.
    You can get SSD's for NZ$400 for a 960GB one, NZ$200 for a 240GB one, and NZ$260 for a 500GB cone. And..... it's still April. So you can fool people IN April, time to be jolly. But thanks for clicking on my thread. And those prices include GST which are
    also sold in my country.

    I have an Xbox One X and it does have a 7200RPM HDD. Well that is at least some improvement from the 5400RPM other consoles (including Xbox 360, though Xbox 360 still starts up faster since it's OS isn't bloated by Windows 10 stuff). It takes about 50 seconds
    for my X console to boot up. And I don't leave my console on 24/7/365. My custom PC only takes 5 seconds to boot up. No moving parts like mechanical 1990's HDD's, and they're smaller too. Granted SSD's have a limit of the number of reads and writes they can
    do. Samsung offers a 5 year warranty on my SSD in my custom desktop. SSD's are just so much more efficient in terms of booting up, saving (takes like a split second to save), and loading (e.g. Final Fantasy XIII takes only 2 seconds to load a save game, where
    as the same game on my Xbox 360 Slim console took 22 seconds to load the save file). Since Xbox One X has a 7200rpm drive, it is..... bearable...... and an improvement which I'm fine with.

    Xbox One X on average takes about 40 seconds to boot up and reach the dashboard home screen. An SSD can do it in 4 seconds. THAT.... is the advantage of an SSD. It's incredibly fast and convenient too.
  11. smileskybird Win User

    Xbox One X with internal SSD coming soon.

    2: Your custom PC, does it by chance run Windows 10? With Windows 10 (and I think Windows 8)

    your computer doesn't shut down fully
    , the kernel session isn't closed, instead its just hibernated. Its a very similar way to the Xbox One using "low power mode" in low power mode it takes roughly 5 - 10 seconds to boot up your console.

    But lets say that Microsoft does include an Xbox One X with in internal SSD, a standard Xbox One X with 3 games costs roughly $750 and lets for arguments sake Microsoft gets a really good deal on SSD drives. So for a 1TB to us costs $960, but Microsoft
    gets them for half that. Are you really saying you would buy an Xbox One X for $1230? (im sticking with the 1TB SSD to keep it fair)
    I turn my custom desktop PC, off at the wall before I go to bed every night. When I turn it back on at the wall each following day, it only takes 4-8 seconds to boot. It's a good SSD and that's the benefit of SSD. Yes it's more expensive than old mechanical
    HDD's, but it adds a lot more convenience to the user cause fact it is capable of booting up, saving, and loading, way quicker (at least 2x quicker even more) than even a 5400rpm and 7200rpm which is still slower. And yes my PC has Windows 10. It's not exactly
    like my PC has a secret battery inside that keeps it powered 24/7/365.

    It's Microsoft's birthday.... pass the message on.... got to have some fun....
  12. Shaggy2000 Win User

    Xbox One X with internal SSD coming soon.

    Ok, two things.

    1: It isn't April 1st and hasn't been for two weeks......................so welcome to two weeks ago.

    2: If they did do an SSD version, the internal HDD would be tiny (maybe 250GB if your lucky) or it would be really expensive.

    For example, a 1TB internal HDD is roughly £35, you cant get an SDD for that, the cheapest is roughly £60 for 250GB. To get a 1TB SDD you are looking at between £200 and £300.

    You can get SSD's for NZ$400 for a 960GB one, NZ$200 for a 240GB one, and NZ$260 for a 500GB cone. And..... it's still April. So you can fool people IN April, time to be jolly. But thanks for clicking on my thread. And those prices include GST which are
    also sold in my country.

    I have an Xbox One X and it does have a 7200RPM HDD. Well that is at least some improvement from the 5400RPM other consoles (including Xbox 360, though Xbox 360 still starts up faster since it's OS isn't bloated by Windows 10 stuff). It takes about 50 seconds
    for my X console to boot up. And I don't leave my console on 24/7/365. My custom PC only takes 5 seconds to boot up. No moving parts like mechanical 1990's HDD's, and they're smaller too. Granted SSD's have a limit of the number of reads and writes they can
    do. Samsung offers a 5 year warranty on my SSD in my custom desktop. SSD's are just so much more efficient in terms of booting up, saving (takes like a split second to save), and loading (e.g. Final Fantasy XIII takes only 2 seconds to load a save game, where
    as the same game on my Xbox 360 Slim console took 22 seconds to load the save file). Since Xbox One X has a 7200rpm drive, it is..... bearable...... and an improvement which I'm fine with.

    Xbox One X on average takes about 40 seconds to boot up and reach the dashboard home screen. An SSD can do it in 4 seconds. THAT.... is the advantage of an SSD. It's incredibly fast and convenient too.
    Two things:

    1: The custom for April fools is that is done on APRIL THE 1st, not anytime throughout April. That's why its called
    APRIL FOOLS DAY not April fools month.

    2: Your custom PC, does it by chance run Windows 10? With Windows 10 (and I think Windows 8)

    your computer doesn't shut down fully
    , the kernel session isn't closed, instead its just hibernated. Its a very similar way to the Xbox One using "low power mode" in low power mode it takes roughly 5 - 10 seconds to boot up your console.

    But lets say that Microsoft does include an Xbox One X with in internal SSD, a standard Xbox One X with 3 games costs roughly $750 and lets for arguments sake Microsoft gets a really good deal on SSD drives. So for a 1TB to us costs $960, but Microsoft
    gets them for half that. Are you really saying you would buy an Xbox One X for $1230? (im sticking with the 1TB SSD to keep it fair)
  13. Shaggy2000 Win User

    Xbox One X with internal SSD coming soon.

    Ok, two things.

    1: It isn't April 1st and hasn't been for two weeks......................so welcome to two weeks ago.

    2: If they did do an SSD version, the internal HDD would be tiny (maybe 250GB if your lucky) or it would be really expensive.

    For example, a 1TB internal HDD is roughly £35, you cant get an SDD for that, the cheapest is roughly £60 for 250GB. To get a 1TB SDD you are looking at between £200 and £300.
  14. Shaggy2000 Win User

    Xbox One X with internal SSD coming soon.

    For example, a 1TB internal HDD is roughly £35, you can't get an SDD for that, the cheapest is roughly £60 for 250GB. To get a 1TB SDD you are looking at between £200 and £300.

    SSDs are way too expensive to provide a good price to performance ratio at the moment I agree. SSHDs are far better value for money, even if they don't provide the same sort of speed boost at startup.

    Also the in game benefit of an SSD is almost non-existent. Very few games load directly from the drive these days, loading first into the RAM instead. You won't see a difference in FPS and loading times will get a marginal speedup but nothing that would warrant
    the higher price of an SSD.

    To be honest I've always wondered why bootup time is mentioned so much in relation to SSDs. Just how often are people starting and shutting down and then restarting again to make a few extra seconds that important? Also Windows 10 when you tell it to shutdown
    doesn't fully shutdown your system on PC, instead it goes into a low power state very similar to Hibernate or Sleep mode, so you get similar startup times no matter the boot device you are using because the system is being held in RAM.
    Boot up time on my Xbox One is only a few seconds anyway, only once in a while do I do a full restart.
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