Xbox One Games in 4K

Lol no it couldn't. The cost would have been insane. Don't fool yourself sir.

 

The XB1 could have had the power of a GTX Titan.

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I'm no PC buff, but I just searched on line, and that graphic card on it's own starts at £600 +

 

Nvidia seriously overprices their GPU's. I guess I should have used the Radeon R9 290X as an example. Microsoft would have needed to take a loss on each console sold, like they did with the 360. And we'd probably face the same overheating issues as before.
BUT... the power would be there.

 

btw ps4 was meant to have 5GB ram but last min upped it to 8GB ms wanted to use GDDR5 but at the time the price was too high but sony took the risk and the price dropped

 

[quote user="MkDamon"]Nvidia seriously overprices their GPU's.[/quote]No, they don't. When there's no competition, there's no reason to lower prices. Even when there is competition, when your competition is being used to cash in on the last of the GPU scrypt
coin mining, there's no reason to lower prices because the competiton's prices are artificially inflated. Now that scrypt ASIC miners have shipped there's no reason for the cryptocurrency generators to buy GPUs. AMD GPU prices are back to "normal", though
AMD's drivers are still bad enough that the only GPUs worth considering are the R9 290 and R9 290X. Everything else is rehashed old stock with an old name and has hardware issues that to date have not been solved in the drivers.

Does it matter? It takes two of those for 4K gaming to be decent, and those are $530 a pop for non-reference cooler designs.

No, not "like the 360". The 360's total power draw from the wall was just under 200w at launch under full gaming load. The GPUs alone required for 4k gaming would consume

between 450 and 550w. Figure at least another 75w for the system and you're talking a 700-750w power supply for the system. A system with a Radeon X1800 XT

pulled only 251w.

4k gaming is the domain of the PC and will remain so for a couple more process shrinks. It'll take five years to get to a single GPU that can do it at a power consumption level that will fit in a console chassis.

 

I don't know why you're upset about this. If Microsoft would have wanted a 4K console, they would have made one. AMD drivers would be a non issue in the Xbox One. And it's possible to get an R9 290X for as little as $300. Microsoft could have gotten the
chipsets even cheaper by buying them in bulk. And by "loss", I meant that MS would have needed to sell it at a loss.

 

My internet can handle it...But I don't have a 4k tv. Who does? Seems overkill at this point.

 

Xbox One and PS4 struggle to hit 1080p for games constantly. 4K is out of the question.

 

[quote user="MkDamon"]f Microsoft would have wanted a 4K console, they would have made one.[/quote]What part of "750w power supply" did you not get?

The technology to create a 4k gaming console, matching the definition of console, does not exist yet.

No it is not. You are thinking of the R9 280X. R9 290X's street
price is $530.

And since you weren't listening the first time, it takes two cards to manage 4k.

Ha ha! No! Top-end GPUs are low volume products. They barely break
even. It's the lower end GPUs that make money. The price of top end cards is already as low as it can go. Buying in "bulk" would do nothing.

 

You're trying to buy the card as a stand-alone product. Check the bundled prices at places like Cyberpower. The prices drop to around $300 when it comes pre-installed. Microsoft could probably swing better deals with AMD than Cyberpower. And I don't see
why a 750w power supply would be prohibitive. I've heard that some SteamBoxes are getting them.

 

[quote user="MkDamon"]Check the bundled prices at places like Cyberpower. The prices drop to around $300 when it comes pre-installed[/quote]Because Cyberpower aren't complete jerks and give you credit for the base card that comes with the system? Though
I see their Memorial Day special system's upgrade from an R9 270 to an R9 290X is $579...

No, they cannot. You are again ignoring the fact that top end GPUs are not where the
money is made. They are break-even signature products primarily created to get people to buy the less expensive, cheaper cards.

Form factor.

Yeah, and those Steamboxes aren't going to be $500. They're also designed around cooling first, acoustics second.

I own a system that consumes over 900w at load. I've owned systems that consume 750w at load. Virtually all of that power is converted to heat. A 750w space heater in the middle of one's AV system is not something the Masses would appreciate.