Xbox One Game sharing

@IceStorm

They have to have that in there because of the Vita and remote play.

So my reading of their policy still stands as far as what's allowed. I don't see that as permission for someone else to play a game simultaneously.

 

I think it's simply an allowable exploit/loophole, kind of like when a police officer lets you off with a warning even though you may have been speeding. The developers/publishers may not like it, but that's why they try not to bring attention to it - they
don't want people to know about it. The fact of the matter is that the majority of gamers don't know this exists, so they don't take advantage of it. Microsoft & Sony don't want to advertise it because if they do, they'll lose the support of the developers
& publishers. The issue is probably small enough (since most people don't realize it exists) that the console developers haven't bothered with changing their current policies. Now, if this spreads like a cancer & the large majority of people are made aware,
then they'll probably step up to make changes. However, if they do that, the changes would automatically be strict (likely set to 1 console only with the owner's GT signed in, for example), which would upset a lot of consumers. It's a catch-22. Because of
this, I think MS & Sony have decided to take the middle-ground of the 2 extremes & that's where it stays - it's not necessarily good for the developers/publishers, but it's not necessarily bad for the consumers either. You can almost say that they're taking
the lesser of not 2, but of 3 evils.

 

@GG I agree

Same reason Steam and Origin continue with the "offline mode" even though they know it's abused. The "fix" could easily cause them more grief than the problem.

 

[quote user="Randver"]They have to have that in there because of the Vita and remote play.[/quote]That has nothing to do with Remote Play. That is explicitly about playing on PS4 systems - the home console and the one being used remotely.

 

From Sony

"Users will be able to log into their accounts on other PS4 consoles giving them full access to download and play their library of downloadable games while logged in. There will be no limit to the number of consoles on which you can remotely log into, but
you must be logged into your account in order to play the downloaded games on secondary consoles. You will also be allowed to be logged in to a limit of two consoles simultaneously."

When you read a dev/pub EULA and apply it to that statement how do you get to it meaning permission to playing the same game simultaneously which is in violation of the EULA?

You playing a different game on my home console while I play another elsewhere isn't any different from me handing you the disc to allow you to play the game, just more convenient. With the same game that isn't possible with a disc, you would need two disc.

If my ""home console" isn't in my residence then you've entered another gray area in the EULA. Current EULA's are still written to combat "burning cd's, no disc cracks, etc", digital has caused a whole new set of issues.

 

well not sure of its been solved yet but i did read last night the thread (but didn't post) so I'll offer some confirmation

@randver

If you buy a digital game on xbox one, i can 100% confirm you can play it on two consoles at the same time. You download it to the main console, then have another person sign in on that console and play it, then you can play it on ay other console at the
same time on your account. SO if you have two consoles, you can buy digitally and play it on both at the same time. Its an awesome feature of going digital

 

Upinya, while your input is appreciated, you're saying the same thing everyone else has been saying & not really answering Randver's question - which I'm starting to worry may never truly be answered...

 

@Upinya

This entire thread has been about determining if it's a "feature" or simply a side effect of the digital age that's not intended.

MS has a policy in place for the access and usage of another product, their policy allows you to do what you've posted. When you read the products (games) policy for the access and usage of their product it's not a feature, it's a loophole.

You have two or more companies involved in this "feature" and you can't choose to follow only the policies you like and make it a "feature".

 

[quote user="Randver"]From Sony[/quote]From where is that taken from?

Read the FAQ. Anyone can play your games on your home console. You can log into any other PS4 console and play any games you already own.

It's very similar to the current day 360 model, with the exception that one gets to designate a "home" console. And I tested the 360 model. I was able to play the same digital copy of AC2 on two different consoles at the same time, with both consoles on
Live through both the same ISP and different ISPs.

Then follow MS's policies and be done with it.

 

@GG and @randver

I don't know if we'll ever know what the true intent was or if it was just a side effect, but does it matter how the sausage is made if its yummy? The intent if i was to guess is to allow you to play all your games on any console with your account. and since
you can only be logged onto one console at a time people can't over abuse it, however whatever console it was purchased also has the rights. If i had to guess its due to 2 seperate licenses for every digital game, 1 license is for your account and 1 license
is for the console itself. SO basically each game comses with 2 licenses and you are using both at the same time. its similar to windows server where you have access license, then another license for the remote desktop and nothing can stop the same person
form suing those license separately.

 

I'm comfortable with the answers I've received to my questions so I will drop the subject and we can all move on.

As of this moment MS hasn't responded to my inquires and they are the only ones that can clarify this any further. Best any of us can do is take the information we have available to us and make a decision based on the evidence.