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Discus and support xbox live suspension in XBoX Games and Apps to solve the problem; I received a suspension of 28 hours for no apparent reason. the reason listed was a generic chat related matter, but did not provide any proof of... Discussion in 'XBoX Games and Apps' started by clayffo, Sep 10, 2018.

  1. clayffo
    clayffo Guest

    xbox live suspension


    I received a suspension of 28 hours for no apparent reason. the reason listed was a generic chat related matter, but did not provide any proof of wrongdoing. I am not aware of any wrongdoing. I did file a complaint against a crew for lobby banning me
    and about 5 other friends so they could have a "private public lobby." I am also not eligible for a review for no apparent reason

    The system appears to be circular in nature designed to punish with no recourse. If you talk to support, they say "Customer support cannot modify or provide further details about this action."

    if you ask how to talk to enforcement, you get redirected to the
    https://enforcement.xbox.com
    which doesn't provide you any way of talking to someone. then they cram this crap in your face about integrity, compassion, precision and team, even though enforcement does not represent
    any of this.

    why does Microsoft have this secret police system that has no accountability????

    :)
     
    clayffo, Sep 10, 2018
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  2. Stray2615
    Stray2615 Guest
    XBox Live Suspension

    Throw rocks at it.
     
    Stray2615, Sep 10, 2018
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  3. mundial1345
    mundial1345 Guest
    XBox Live Suspension

    I used to love reading the threads in that forum they were always good for a laugh.
     
    mundial1345, Sep 10, 2018
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  4. ChiefJoboo
    ChiefJoboo Guest

    xbox live suspension

    The only way to contact anyone that can alter suspensions (or to appeal it or ask about it) is to contact enforcement through a case review:

    https://enforcement.xbox.com/en-US/home/howto#sub-topic0-6
    Xbox support and phone support can not alter suspensions. Only enforcement can - and ONLY through a case review. To do a case review your suspension must be active, have been applied within the
    last year and be longer than 24 hours. You may have to do a quiz on the code of conduct before you can do a case review, and if you fail you will have to wait 24 hours to try again.
     
    ChiefJoboo, Sep 10, 2018
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  5. DIPDIP0TAT0CH1P, Sep 10, 2018
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  6. clayffo
    clayffo Guest
    more circular garbage that doesn't answer the question or create any source of accountability. I am not allowed to know why I was banned for 28 hours????
     
    clayffo, Sep 10, 2018
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  7. clayffo
    clayffo Guest
    this is a fun set of explanations in the enforcement myths section of
    https://enforcement.xbox.com/en-US/home/howto#sub-topic0-5


    "By visiting our
    Code of Conduct page
    , you can see how Microsoft’s Code of Conduct applies to Xbox Live. This includes a number of examples of prohibited conduct and content. These examples help illustrate the spirit of the rules, but
    as stated in the document, they are not meant to be a complete list of possible violations."

    basically, this says that you have to follow all rules, known and UNKNOWN, and if you make any perceived violations, their computer system will auto suspend / ban you. Since a computer is banning you and it is not required to explain it's actions, well
    MS won't take any responsibility
     
    clayffo, Sep 10, 2018
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  8. xbox live suspension

    You're only eligible for review if it's a long suspension. But the ET only take action if they are 100% sure.
     
    Gamingboy177 (Sam), Sep 10, 2018
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  9. Smwutches
    Smwutches Guest
    Suspensions/bans are issued by the enforcement team, not a computer. The enforcement team investigate every complaint they receive and will only issue a suspension if they determine you have done something to violate the code of conduct.
     
    Smwutches, Sep 10, 2018
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  10. clayffo
    clayffo Guest
    ya, sure they are done in person. you should read your friend's comment above before lying to me

    "Any Enforcement with less than 48 hours suspension time cannot be reviewed as it would take this amount of time to review the case. You will need to wait until this is over unfortunately." Basically, let's say a "person" has the time to instaban me literally
    within minutes of my complaint I filed, but that same " person" needs more than 48 hours to review the incident and has no phone or contact information to get a hold of?

    IF THEY WERE BEING REVIEWED, THEN IT WOULDN'T TAKE 48 HOURS TO REVIEW
     
    clayffo, Sep 10, 2018
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  11. RandyAU93
    RandyAU93 Guest
    Smwutches is correct in stating that the Xbox Live Policies Enforcement Team (XBLPET) does "pull the trigger" on suspending an account.

    The review being mentioned is the "case review", another term for an appeal of the suspension. Since short-term suspensions are considered first-time offenses, they're not subject to such an appeal. The only potential way that you would learn the specifics
    (that is, "at 2:30pm you did a thing that was against the rules", for example) would be in a case review. A 28-hour suspension is essentially a time-out or "go to your room" punishment.
     
    RandyAU93, Sep 10, 2018
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  12. clayffo
    clayffo Guest
    now we're starting to get some truth here. You have a system that insta bans people without proving any proof of wrongdoing. then, you have a system that does not allow for any accountability of those action, nor does it care if the actions are even correct

    along with this, you hit people with "first offense, second offense, etc" escalating penalties when you have no idea if the people even violated the rules.

    let me throw something at you that may be beyond comprehension. at the time of my ban, 22 players in a GTAO session set up a "private / public room " , basically invite only room, but not an invite only room (a public session.) they immediately attacked
    me verbally and at least 20 players voted me out of the room just because when I hit the "join friends" button, it put me in that room automatically. the leader most likely filed a complaint against me that was false as he was extremely aggressive. Immediately
    I get this ban.

    you ever think your almighty system might be doing a lot of harm to your customers?
     
    clayffo, Sep 10, 2018
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  13. Smwutches
    Smwutches Guest

    xbox live suspension

    This is a community based forum so we are all just fellow gamers, not Microsoft employees.

    Investigations take time so your suspension may not have been for that interaction. It could have been for something that took place days or weeks before.
     
    Smwutches, Sep 10, 2018
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  14. RandyAU93
    RandyAU93 Guest
    There is no "insta-ban". The incident in question was reviewed by an XBLPET member, who reviewed the evidence of the incident and determined that an infraction of the Xbox Live Code of Conduct came from your account. Based on the duration of the suspension,
    it was considered a minor infraction, but nonetheless one that was worthy of a suspension.

    As to what you describe, you would NOT be suspended for that. If you join a match and are "voted out" for nothing more than not being part of the intended group, you would NOT be suspended, as such an action is not an infraction of the Code of Conduct. Even
    if the leader did report you, XBLPET would have reviewed the incident and determined you did nothing wrong other than appear in a room where they wanted to control who was in it. False reports are tossed and do not result in suspensions.
     
    RandyAU93, Sep 10, 2018
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  15. KindGryphon
    KindGryphon Guest
    No. They do not have a system that autobans.

    Someone reports you, the enforcement team investigates said (not an immediate process) report to verify whether it is a valid report.

    If the report is valid enforcement action is taken.

    If the report is not valid then no enforcement action is taken against you. In fact enforcement action may be taken on the person who filed said false report instead.

    Will I get banned just because I received complaints?

    No. A common misconception is that a certain number of reports will result in an automatic suspension. According to the myth, even if you haven’t done anything wrong someone can get you suspended by encouraging
    players to file many complaints. This is completely untrue.

    XBLPET investigates complaints and takes each report into consideration when making an enforcement decision, but a certain volume or frequency of complaints doesn’t guarantee a suspension. We take an evidence-based
    approach to enforcement and take numerous factors into account when considering issuing a suspension. The context around the content or activity is particularly essential and drives our decision-making process. Simply put, there is no magic formula that instantly
    results in a suspension.

    Despite what some may claim, XBLPET will never ever ban anyone “for no reason”. Suspensions always occur as a result of a specific Code of Conduct violation.



    Xbox Enforcement | How Do I
     
    KindGryphon, Sep 10, 2018
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