Will Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 be accessible to blind users?

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  1. Robin.Kipp
    Robin.Kipp Guest

    Will Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 be accessible to blind users?


    Hello all!

    I'm a completely blind aviation enthusiast with a deep interest in flight simming.

    This has been a passion of mine for a pretty long time, but I've really started getting serious about it over the past 2 years.

    At this time, I'm able to use Prepar3d with various add-ons that allow me to do this in an accessible manner.

    Some of these add-ons were specifically designed for blind pilots, but many of them are actually mainstream products, some of which were adapted to be more accessible by the wonderful people developing them.

    Currently, this allows me and other blind pilots (we actually are an extremely vibrant community) to plan and perform propper IFR flights, it is even possible to do this on the VATSIM network so we can enjoy the experience of flying with other pilots and
    with live ATC provided by human controllers.

    However, there are also some unfortunate restrictions that we have to deal with constantly when flying in the sim.

    For instance, taxiing is completely inaccessible at this time, as there's no way for us to know where we're going when navigating on the ground, there are no accessible indications of taxi ways, holding points, runways and other traffic that might be in
    our way.

    The only workaround that currently exists is spawning from the gate onto the runway, which does work but definitely takes away from the realism and authenticity of the experience.

    It can also cause issues especially when flying on the VATSIM network, the community there is extremely helpful and more than happy to accommodate our needs, but requesting permission to spawn can be problematic especially during big events.

    Other frequent issues that we keep hitting include things like being unable to capture the ILS glideslope due to the autopilot add-on we use (FSTramp) failing to properly line up the plane, the inability to fly directly to a given waypoint on a given SID
    / STAR / approach, being unable to divert to a different airport if needed, or the autopilot completely failing when trying to follow radar vectors provided by ATC.

    For those and many more reasons, I as well as the rest of the community really hope that FS 2020 will bring a much better accessibility experience, e.g. by allowing us to directly interact with an aircraft's instrument panels and FMC system, things that
    we are currently unable to do in Prepar3d or FS X.

    During the early stages of FS 2020 development, there have been some statements from Ms saying that accessibility is definitely something which will be considered, and there have been reports of Ms partnering with Air Force veterans who have unfortunately
    lost sight in order to provide feedback on the accessibility of the sim.

    Unfortunately though, there haven't really been any updates on this effort for quite some time now, which I do understand given that the sim is still in alpha and anything being shared with the public needs to comply with the rules put in place by the non-disclosure
    terms.

    Thus, I was wondering if it would perhaps be possible to get some more details on how this is coming along by any chance?

    Even if it may not be possible to have this question answered at this time, I'm definitely hoping that posting on here might spark the attention of the right people and maybe provide more insight into the accessibility work that is being done to make FS
    2020 enjoyable by all.

    Either way, I really just do want to let people know that the interest in getting an accessible sim is huge, and I plus the others are eager to get our hands on this wonderful new product.

    Thanks for reading, and take care @all!

    Robin

    :)
     
    Robin.Kipp, May 16, 2020
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  2. ArminatorX Win User

    Will Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 be accessible to blind users?

    You should definitely try to contact Bryce Johnson, the Inclusive Lead at Microsoft, he worked with development of the Xbox Adaptive Controller, and tweets a lot about how games use accessibility functions to allow gamers with handicaps to enjoy the games.

    You might contact him via Twitter at https://twitter.com/brycej and make him aware of your needs in the upcoming Flight Simulator.

    Also contact SightlessKombat https://twitter.com/sightlessKombat, as he also influenced the accessibility functions for Gears 5 and other Microsoft Games.
  3. DarrellBowles Win User

    Will Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 be accessible to blind users?

    I would also like to point out that I am another blind flight simmer.

    I have had Numerus ups and downs while using FS tramp. Part of my problem, is not being able to fly a cid and a star properly with the current ATC add-ons. As mentioned above, being able to do full checklists, as well as fly
    some of the pay-ware aircraft. Another big problem for me is landing, particularly on vat sim flights. Sometimes FS tramp will for whatever the case may be, take me on a path, that my controler does not want me to fly. The end result, is that I miss the glideslope
    and localizer and land in the middle of nowhere.

    I am not asking for an auto landing feature, such as in FSX pilot, but having access to the list of cids and stars and approaches without having to use 3rd party software would be amazing!

    Looking forward to seeing the results!
  4. SpiralOut46and2 Win User

    Will Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 be accessible to blind users?

    I think this is an amazing idea and did not know that these add-ons existed. I support this idea and hope that they do make this great looking game more accessible to blind players! Best of luck and it's great to hear that this is a thriving community.
    :)
  5. JasonFayre Win User

    Will Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 be accessible to blind users?

    Hello,

    I am also a blind flight sim user, and the developer of one of the add-ons that many in our community use.

    For anyone interested, the add-on is called Talking Flight Monitor (TFM), and can be found at:

    http://www.github.com/jfayre/talking-flight-monitor

    I just want to agree with what others have said. It would be amazing to hear about the work that MS is doing to make FS2020 accessible. Although I've loved developing this free add-on, I would love to have it rendered obsolete due to accessibility features
    native to the sim.
  6. XBF Leo G Win User

    Will Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 be accessible to blind users?

    Hello everyone,

    Thank you all for posting on the Xbox forums. We will be locking this thread due to it being revived by a new post. If there are any questions, discussions or issues that anyone would like to bring to our attention, please create a new thread. We will
    be more than happy to answer any questions or provide solutions for any issues. Thank you all again and happy gaming!
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