Why "dumb" AI is the best thing to happen to multiplayer in years

Discus and support Why "dumb" AI is the best thing to happen to multiplayer in years in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; I thought this was an interesting read and take on it. 'Bot me no 'bots: Ed ponders the AI of Evolve, Watch Dogs and Titanfall Do you play... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by Lofty Who, Apr 10, 2014.

  1. Lofty Who
    Lofty Who Guest

    Why "dumb" AI is the best thing to happen to multiplayer in years


    I thought this was an interesting read and take on it.

    'Bot me no 'bots: Ed ponders the AI of Evolve, Watch Dogs and Titanfall

    Do you play multiplayer games to win, or to have fun? How you answer may determine how you feel about the recent penchant for building AI factions into adversarial multiplayer on console - a trend epitomised by the lumbering buddybots and charmingly inept
    infantry of Titanfall.


    Players who live for the thrill of victory tend to revile such features, arguing that AI goons scupper the competitive balance while stealing away processing power from the "meat" of the game. Advocates, however, point out that the result is a game more
    people can play: the AIs are easier to kill than human beings, after all, which means that newcomers stand to make headway even six months post-release, once the diehards have perfected their mass-murdering tactics
    .

    ( read more in link )

    Xbox Games, News & Reviews | GamesRadar+

    :)
     
    Lofty Who, Apr 10, 2014
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  2. GamingTailor
    GamingTailor Guest
    Resident Eveil Operation Racoon City.

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    My copy should be here tomorrow. Really curious to see how dumb is the AI.

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    Sometimes you would be better off with someone blind folded and halfway through a bottle of brandy than the AI Why "dumb" AI is the best thing to happen to multiplayer in years ;)

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    Wow, that good? Cannot wait to scream at my tv. Why "dumb" AI is the best thing to happen to multiplayer in years :p
     
    GamingTailor, Apr 10, 2014
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  3. LoftyBee
    LoftyBee Guest
    Resident Eveil Operation Racoon City.

    [quote user="GamingTailor"]

    My copy should be here tomorrow. Really curious to see how dumb is the AI.

    [/quote]



    Sometimes you would be better off with someone blind folded and halfway through a bottle of brandy than the AI Why "dumb" AI is the best thing to happen to multiplayer in years ;)
     
    LoftyBee, Apr 10, 2014
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  4. Why "dumb" AI is the best thing to happen to multiplayer in years

    This has been my argument since day one. AI makes the game feel much more alive and gives even the worst players a chance at developing their skills, getting some kills and a sense of accomplishment. Nobody is alienated, everybody just has fun.
     
    Dynamic Sausage, Apr 10, 2014
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  5. Tzar of kaos
    Tzar of kaos Guest
    I think that depend of the game and how is it balance....

    Titanfall, great.Well balanced,adds life into the battlefied.

    I'm more worried about solo games....I'm not talking about the difficulty but the way AI react.

    For example in MGSV GS ,i took a tank,mess around and hide myself.After a while,AI acted like nothing happen,didn't brought back the tank where it was park,didn't try to investigate on the event....

    Seems devs are more worried by resolution rather than improve AI.
     
    Tzar of kaos, Apr 10, 2014
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  6. Zero Divided
    Zero Divided Guest
    agreed, at first i was just indifferent to the Titanfall IA, but now i like them for a couple of reasons, it makes the game more fun, the feeling of being in danger as you run out and the AI are yelling your position or damaging you a little, or running
    into a building and one AI is choking another, i like it a lot.

    and it has pulled my wife into the game, if she makes it home before me i'll find her playing and while she is not very good at the other game modes, she is wicked good at hardpoint and makes MVP a lot of the time.
     
    Zero Divided, Apr 10, 2014
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  7. Of course you want single player AI to be a little bit more challenging. If you walk through a campaign without a single death or finding something challenging then you might as well just go outside and walk to the end of the street; it makes you feel just
    as accomplished and comes with additional fitness benefits.

    It seems a shame but I can't help but notice the days of "I've been stuck on this boss for 3 days now" are rapidly dying out.
     
    Dynamic Sausage, Apr 10, 2014
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  8. Why "dumb" AI is the best thing to happen to multiplayer in years

    I wasn't aware there was such a thing as "smart" AI. Why "dumb" AI is the best thing to happen to multiplayer in years :p
     
    Goth Vampirella, Apr 10, 2014
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  9. tohellnbak
    tohellnbak Guest
    even tho the AI could be a litle more aggressive... would love to see the grunts act like spectres and spectres act a little more more human... I can see why Respawn did this... there are 3 types of players for all games.... the L33t players... The Average/fun
    players and the sucky players... most FPS are aimed towards the Leet and average with no chance of the sucky/casuals to have any fun.... about time someone made a game all 3 levels can play together and feel like the TEAM won
     
    tohellnbak, Apr 10, 2014
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  10. Although the AI allows for more depth regarding strategy I worry about how fair it will be for new players when the better players start to really realize that they can use the AI as bait to lure in the new players to their untimely deaths... Why "dumb" AI is the best thing to happen to multiplayer in years :(
     
    Galactic Geek, Apr 10, 2014
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  11. It will only be a death that was going to happen anyway and even then people will still get a few kills from them. I think you're just looking too far in to a simple but very clever system.
     
    Dynamic Sausage, Apr 10, 2014
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  12. tohellnbak
    tohellnbak Guest
    GG do you mean hang around a friendly pod, cloaked in the corner and waiting... yeah.. been there done that
     
    tohellnbak, Apr 10, 2014
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  13. Zero Divided
    Zero Divided Guest

    Why "dumb" AI is the best thing to happen to multiplayer in years

    I like to use the spectre camp burn card and hang out with the AI spectres.
     
    Zero Divided, Apr 10, 2014
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  14. I've said many times before that I would rather play against real players, but the AI works well in Titanfall. There not completely useless; deter campers, something to always shoot at, etc.
     
    BHC Bluez n 2z, Apr 10, 2014
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  15. EnenDaveyBoy
    EnenDaveyBoy Guest
    I don't mind the AI in titanfall, but I still think they should play more like real players, and do a little more damage, and actually play the objective, etc.

    However theres nothing good about rubbish AI in solo games, I mean elder scrolls as soon as you reach a certain level the AI become almost pointless, they might not need more damage but they could get evolve their combat ability.
     
    EnenDaveyBoy, Apr 10, 2014
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