Who's ready for the "Xbox 2"?

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  1. Who's ready for the "Xbox 2"?


    Wow Just............ WOW.

    Dream on is all i can say. And if Sony have said they are considering refreshing the console within the next few years. That would make the PS4 and Xbox One 5 Years Old, which is probably about when they will announce a new console anyway.

    Get over it, Specs are Specs. If your that concerned, By a PC.

    :)
     
    HairyLoveSpuds, Nov 18, 2015
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  2. Who's ready for tournaments?

    Who's ready to create their own tournaments? Anyone else as #Stoked as me?
     
    XxOzzCorpseXx, Nov 18, 2015
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  3. J3RS3Y DEVIL
    J3RS3Y DEVIL Guest
    Who's ready for tournaments?

    Looking forward to it.

    Maybe a tournament of Xbox Forum Users???

    That is if most posters are not banned at the time. Who's ready for the "Xbox 2"? :)
     
    J3RS3Y DEVIL, Nov 18, 2015
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  4. Who's ready for the "Xbox 2"?

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    Hello "SchroederRock" Who's ready for the "Xbox 2"? :)

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    The Xbox One has only been out for 2 years so the Xbox Two is going be a long ways off from now.

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    Have a nice day or afternoon or night "SchroederRock" Who's ready for the "Xbox 2"? :)

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    Lei Fang DOAX3, Nov 18, 2015
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  5. Now wait up a sec. Sony has OFFICIALLY made comments about their looking into a PS4 successor in the next few years - as little as 2 but they didn't elaborate and didn't confirm they are for-sure going to do it.

    Look at it this way: technology is advancing too fast for static products to stand the test of time. Developers want more power to work with so they can put out games as they're intended - these consoles do NOT allow that to happen because both companies
    played it much, much safer than each did when they released the Xbox 360 and the PS3. Both used hardware that was considered on the edge of mid-tier PC and cutting-edge. It took developers roughly 5 years to finally start maxing out the power of both consoles.

    Imagine games like Destiny, the upcoming The Division... anything that revolves around persistent online. You cannot build games that support hundreds of players in the same area with the hardware at-hand without drastically dialing back the visuals of
    the game because they cut into your budget for power the most in those instances. This is a problem, given that more game companies are building games that are heavily social and include more players in your games. We left the Xbox 360 with 720p games and
    30FPS being the typical benchmark to hit. With the Xbox One, we've got 720p and either 30FPS or 60FPS depending on the game as the go-to for a lot of games. Titanfall hit 792p, Battlefield and Battlefront are 720p, Ryse was 900p, Halo is at times 1080p/60FPS
    (but drops in res. regularly for large-scale visual moments).

    I'm not asking anyone to say "yeah, new Xbox right now", but the move to offer the next level of gaming in the next 2 years isn't a stupid thought. The less development studios have to spend constantly peeling back visuals and physics in their games and
    can spend more of that time testing & implementing, the better. It has sounded like a lot of game makers are frustrated with consoles in that they expected another monumental leap forward, only to see the Xbox One be a mild upgrade over its 8-year old predecessor
    (@ the time of launch).

    I still love Xbox and we've got some nifty games to play with that others don't get to play w/o the same console. I just want to see the dream of greater AI, incredible physics and fantastic graphical detail be a part of the console generation. You can't
    argue that the XB1 or PS4 have lived up to the hype they arrived with.
     
    SchroederRock, Nov 18, 2015
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  6. Also, let me point out that, if the Xbox One was so appropriately powered, why the heck is it still sluggish with apps? Why, even with the NXOE Windows 10 update are apps still slow to load? Why did Microsoft have to unlock 1/2 of a 7th core for game developers
    to use (which has resulted in more strict requirements for power allocation for apps)? There are noticeable bottlenecks and poor performance from the OS at times 2 years after launch. It seems odd that we're living with such compromise given where we should
    be with this kind of tech.
     
    SchroederRock, Nov 18, 2015
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  7. ShaunPerry
    ShaunPerry Guest
    I understand what you are getting at. Its like buying a PC that is outdated the week after purchase.

    Look at it this way, when Gears of war released on the 360, it was the most stunning game I had ever seen. Compare it with ,say, Gears Judgement and it looks terrible! Developers learn how to get more and more from the tech all the time. Crackdown 3 using
    the Cloud for example.

    Using Destiny as an example is a tad wrong though. There are never hundreds of players in one world. Its about 16 players to a server.
     
    ShaunPerry, Nov 18, 2015
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  8. John Dowding
    John Dowding Guest

    Who's ready for the "Xbox 2"?

    Nope happy with this current gen for the moment, I for one can see the huge improvement in gaming and hardware over the last gen.
     
    John Dowding, Nov 18, 2015
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  9. As a gamer, I'm interested in gaming. Better tech is for the consumer market as much as candy crush saga is for the consumer market. The Ps4 is sonys biggest product/seller, rumors of a PS5 in 2017 have been around for a while. Allot can change between now
    and then meaning that pure speculation is all we have. None of this should be important to a gamer, how much we enjoy the games that are released now is.
     
    RedEye Expr3ss, Nov 18, 2015
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  10. smileskybird
    smileskybird Guest
    It's 2015, were living in the 21st century, not 2415. We don't have starships which can travel at warp 9. Or gaming platforms which do 8k graphics @ 120fps. Better technology costs more. And console gaming is a cheaper alternative to buying a high end gaming
    PC. Most game developers aren't taking "full potential" of Xbox 1's hardware. 343 industries was able to do it, because they're owned by Microsoft. And no one understands Microsoft's hardware more than Microsoft, cuz it's their system so they know it best.
    That's why Halo 5 is natively in 1080p 60fps (so is Minecraft for Xbox 1). Xbox 1 has ESRAM, which is super fast memory theoretically capable of 192GB/s bandwidth, which is higher than GDDR5's bandwidth limit of 178GB/s and which has higher latency than Xbox
    1's DDR3 RAM.

    Xbox 2 was Xbox 360, since Xbox 360 was Microsoft's second Xbox console. But not all gamers are hardcore. There are those who video game to have fun. If you worry about specs, there are those of us who don't really. For those who like-like playing video
    games and have chosen Xbox, Xbox 360 has millions more active people on the Xbox 360 platform than there are on the Xbox 1 platform (which has only some 12 million or so users). It's because Microsoft did such a great job on Xbox 360 and with the Xbox Live
    service, at a cheaper alternative to buying an expensive high end PC. Games look weaker last gen, yet Xbox 360 still has a higher user base than Xbox 1 currently has. Which means video games are meant to be fun. And you don't have to have the best and priciest
    hardware available on the market, to enjoy video games. The Xbox Live service allows us to personalize the dashboard background, something young people like to do. It has Xbox avatars. It has voice messaging. It has party chat. It has Kinect and all the cool
    stuff you can do with it.
     
    smileskybird, Nov 18, 2015
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  11. John Dowding
    John Dowding Guest
    ^stop posting the same regurgitated post in every thread you join in with.
     
    John Dowding, Nov 18, 2015
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  12. So I use Xbox 2 in quotations because Microsoft made the puzzling decision to go with Xbox One - 2 being the follow up console.

    Let me be clear here: The Xbox One isn't completely irrelevant. It is a good console but is one that looks to be more of the entry-level console Microsoft can use to attract lower budgets into its gaming world. A second-level Xbox would be meant to exist
    in tandem with the Xbox One, but at a higher price point as to cater to the games that might be too complex for consoles to run. I think of the upcoming generation of games like Star Citizen where devs are breaking the backs of middle-grade hardware and showing
    us what it can be like to see vivid worlds that aren't banking on cutscenes to be impressive.

    Destiny and Battlefront is an example of where we are. Either locked one-off battles that are regurgitated and require heavy compression and limited player engagements (Battlefront) or small-scale open worlds (Destiny). If you try to open things up more,
    you pay for that trade off. These were the limitations of the 360. While the XB1 will grow, as one mentioned earlier, it will not grow so much that the console will be capable of these massive persistent worlds that you can live and breath for hours on end
    and enjoy with a large social pool.

    Microsoft would be foolish to rely on a single console. Just like the Surface or its mobile phones, updates must be made. At least a refresh cycle mid-life grants you the flexibility of staying closer to what's possible instead of being buried in a coffin
    for 8 years with nothing to hope for except tiny optimizations.

    And again, Sony has confirmed their interest in a new console already. They haven't made any claims of exactly when or what, but they've made this clear earlier this year that a PS4.5 or PS5 console is being explored in some way long before the 10-year
    age mark of the PS4.
     
    SchroederRock, Nov 18, 2015
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  13. Who's ready for the "Xbox 2"?

    Imagine what a $599 console that doesn't include a Kinect would be. Yes, it would be more expensive, but it comes down in price over time, just like the XB1. But you're getting hardware that's going to really impress from day 1 and into its first few years.
    Build an expansion port into the unit so you can boost performance down the line, much like an SLI/Crossfire configuration on PCs with 2 graphics cards working in tandem.
     
    SchroederRock, Nov 18, 2015
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  14. John Dowding
    John Dowding Guest
    Never going to happen, people went radio rental at the price point of the One when it was released, if your going to be expecting people to pay a higher price they may as well buy a gaming PC.

    The mass market doesn't want expensive consoles it wants cheap consoles, the take up of your $599 console wouldn't justify the production costs as the take up from the casual gamers simply wouldn't sustain it, and as I said everything your suggesting is
    in the realm of the PC already.

    Personally I couldn't care less about MMO's I prefer mainly SP with the odd dose of MP, and in that respect the leap forward this generation has been excellent.
     
    John Dowding, Nov 18, 2015
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  15. Tzar of kaos
    Tzar of kaos Guest
    More power.....buy. a. PC. and stop,trolling....

    Sony. says ? Who cares....go buy a PS4.....

    More power ^^^^^

    Witcher 3

    More. power^^^^^

    Forza 6

    More. power^^^^^^

    Sunset. Overdrive

    More. power^^^^

    Halo. Guardians

    More power^^^^^

    Rise. of the Tomb Raider

    Ect.....

    I can wait for "more. power". until next. generation (around 2020)....
     
    Tzar of kaos, Nov 18, 2015
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