which perk is better

Discus and support which perk is better in XBoX Games and Apps to solve the problem; ^^Which one? Off the Grid or Focus? Focus is very important in every gunfight, which is more important than staying off the minimap IMHO. Discussion in 'XBoX Games and Apps' started by apna style, Jan 13, 2014.

  1. which perk is better


    ^^Which one? Off the Grid or Focus? Focus is very important in every gunfight, which is more important than staying off the minimap IMHO.
     
    UneasyJmitchell, Jan 14, 2014
    #16
  2. I tried wiretap on hc, and it doesnt work, as foomberry stated. At least it doesnt activate your minimap. I wasnt ever sure if both our teams had satcoms out at the same time to tell if it would work once you or your team activated it with their own.

    Probably wont use it any more since that was my main goal. I dont even know that you can bring up a map in-game in this. I havent found a way. In previous releases you could bring it up just by hitting the back button. I remember I think in blops, if you
    were running sitrep in hc mode, you could bring up a map and it would show you enemy equipement. Thats how I got my sentry gun kills, by bringing up ythe map, spotting the huighlighted sentry and plotting a course to get to the back side of it.
     
    a tired old guy, Jan 14, 2014
    #17
  3. FoomBerry
    FoomBerry Guest
    My apologies. I meant Focus. Staying off the map is important and all, but I generally do fine without it.
     
    FoomBerry, Jan 14, 2014
    #18
  4. Mafivee
    Mafivee Guest

    which perk is better

    I'm thinking of trading in Off the Grid as I'm sure most enemies don't even look at their mini map (from my observations).
     
    Mafivee, Jan 14, 2014
    #19
  5. ^ Most? Really? Well, the community is pretty dumb.
     
    BLACK SABBATH-952FF33F-F209-441C-8824-50F08A44DCDA, Jan 14, 2014
    #20
  6. ^

    It really does seem that way, lol.
     
    ChainSmokingBob, Jan 14, 2014
    #21
  7. Mafivee
    Mafivee Guest
    Most, if not all then. You can be blasting your gun off like nobodies business showing up on the radar like New Years and they still will not be aware... So yes the community is extremely dumb, Bundy dumb in fact.
     
    Mafivee, Jan 14, 2014
    #22
  8. which perk is better

    ^^Nah, I think the (better players especially) still chase red dots around the mini map. I tried Ping out last night and it was pretty good. I have been using the Damage perk too (that cost 5 points) and using the Specialist streaks. Still looking for those
    best combos for Specialist.
     
    UneasyJmitchell, Jan 15, 2014
    #23
  9. Maybe New Zealand has a bunch of noobs. There are people who follow red dots but then there's people who don't even see it. TDM is full of noobs by far. I'll be shooting my gun all over the place and the guy that I'm chasing doesn't even know I'm behind
    him. Noobs, honestly.
     
    Defy Lightning, Jan 15, 2014
    #24
  10. I think the minimap is harder to see than in previous releases. I remember when the game first came out, there were a bunch of posts asking why they moved it even though its the same place as always.

    And the way satcoms work, it only gives

    you a limited map unless there are multiple satcoms out. ...... not even sure how the system works. But I was playing some hc trying out wiretap, and when we had a satcom, I could hear weapons firing a lot, but saw no red dots at all.



    Personally, I've never been able to take full advantage of them and frequenty find they cause me more harm than good. To really focus on it means I have to switch eyes. During that period I lose track of everything for a split second and often wind up
    getting shot by an enemy who should have been in plain view.



    I also know ( because I doi it myself) that its fairly easy to lure people into false confidence, or an outright trap. If I'm running an anti-radar type perk, I generally stay away from my team and kind of use them as bait or distraction.

    About the only good the minimap does for me is give me something to reference, as far as basic direction stuff is going on.
     
    a tired old guy, Jan 15, 2014
    #25
  11. Sat-Coms are different now (than UAVs). If you or your team only have one Sat-Com out, the com doesnt work too much like a UAV. Any enemy you "SEE" will show on the mini map. I dunno if it works for teammates too? If they see someone will that enemy show
    up, when you have a com out? I do know multiple coms makes an Advanced UAV effect.
     
    UneasyJmitchell, Jan 15, 2014
    #26
  12. Mafivee
    Mafivee Guest
    @Defy - Could be. I guess we're in the same boat.

    @Uneasy - Obviously the better players will be aware and chase the dots, I'm not ruling them out, they just seem very few and far between.
     
    Mafivee, Jan 15, 2014
    #27
  13. Solavade
    Solavade Guest

    which perk is better

    Off the Grid. FREE.
     
    Solavade, Jan 15, 2014
    #28
  14. apna style
    apna style Guest
    i have been trying focus perk but i don't really notice much difference when shooting considering all these jump and drop shotters

    where as off the grid and the one that covers you from oracle systems really help

    but it depends on which game mode you play tdm kill confirmed may be better with off the grid

    where as domination obj type games focus is more important
     
    apna style, Jan 15, 2014
    #29
  15. Mafivee
    Mafivee Guest
    Focus was really effective in the beginning, but the nerf to it toned it right down. Jumpers and drop shotters can pose an issue sometimes and I often find them humorously ridiculous, especially jumpers.

    I at least see an enemy oracle a couple times a match.
     
    Mafivee, Nov 1, 2018
    #30
  16. Solavade Win User

    which perk is better

    Off the Grid. FREE.
  17. Mafivee Win User

    which perk is better

    @Defy - Could be. I guess we're in the same boat.

    @Uneasy - Obviously the better players will be aware and chase the dots, I'm not ruling them out, they just seem very few and far between.
  18. UneasyJmitchell Win User

    which perk is better

    Sat-Coms are different now (than UAVs). If you or your team only have one Sat-Com out, the com doesnt work too much like a UAV. Any enemy you "SEE" will show on the mini map. I dunno if it works for teammates too? If they see someone will that enemy show
    up, when you have a com out? I do know multiple coms makes an Advanced UAV effect.
  19. a tired old guy Win User

    which perk is better

    I think the minimap is harder to see than in previous releases. I remember when the game first came out, there were a bunch of posts asking why they moved it even though its the same place as always.

    And the way satcoms work, it only gives

    you a limited map unless there are multiple satcoms out. ...... not even sure how the system works. But I was playing some hc trying out wiretap, and when we had a satcom, I could hear weapons firing a lot, but saw no red dots at all.



    Personally, I've never been able to take full advantage of them and frequenty find they cause me more harm than good. To really focus on it means I have to switch eyes. During that period I lose track of everything for a split second and often wind up
    getting shot by an enemy who should have been in plain view.



    I also know ( because I doi it myself) that its fairly easy to lure people into false confidence, or an outright trap. If I'm running an anti-radar type perk, I generally stay away from my team and kind of use them as bait or distraction.

    About the only good the minimap does for me is give me something to reference, as far as basic direction stuff is going on.
  20. FoomBerry Win User

    which perk is better

    My apologies. I meant Focus. Staying off the map is important and all, but I generally do fine without it.
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