What's with all the hate for Mass Effect: Andromeda?

Good idea lol.

I tended to use Peebee & the Krogan as my squadmates for the Architects,both had maxed out abilities.

The Krogan is a beast once maxed out & can take a ton of damage,plus the conversations between him & Peebee are quite funny at times.

The one on Voeld (thanks for that) is ok if you can stay inside the buildings but you do need to come out for ammo etc & that's when it becomes a real pain.

That was the easy one by the way.

The one on the ice planet ( can't remember the name) is the hardest as you are also fighting the cold as well as the Architect,i really would leave that one until last.

This ^_o

By way of congratulating you (and simultaneously updating the thread - it had slipped to page 2), I'd hazard a guess that the Ice Architect was where I spat the dummy... as you may've found out, while you're dealing out damage to its tendrils, everything's
quite doable. It's when the boss regains health or shields or whatever and starts summoning minions that you've got to be on your toes (while at the same time contending with safe zones). All praise to you, and Badger, for persevering, but to give you an example
of how each of us has a different threshold for pain...

I'm playing The Last of Us on its hardest setting (Grounded) and last night I spent an eternity - well, at least 150 minutes - replaying one insufferable room in the sewers. There's a bunch of clickers and while stealth is technically an option, there's
no way round the male ones (or those packing headcrabs). With ammo scarce, no melee weapon, and no means of triggering the exit until the room was cleared, it's safe to say that this kind of cheap and nasty barrier would leave a lesser gamer fuming. But that's
where my LEGENDARY 'edumacation' from the Halo School kicks in... you just keep on keeping on until the road is clear

All things being equal (or decidedly unpleasant), I'd still take that 150 minutes of hard labor over any stultifying attempt to beat the Architects on Insanity! Good luck with that, brandiesel

It's quite annoying, but I'm almost there. I'm only lvl 14 and on insanity. Hopefully the others will be easier.

No, they won't. If memory serves, Badger says he turned in a grandiose performance, but it's been some time since I closed the book on Andromeda and I'm pretty sure I was more leveled up than you... is there a cap? Idk, but lvl 14 suggests you won't be able
to finish these bosses without exploits. I *really* wanted to beat the Architects but there's a path of least resistance and you're either able to follow it or not. I dunno, perhaps if you've been weaned on the masochistic Dark Souls, you might see an opening
that mere mortals cannot, but it's telling that Andromeda has been officially shelved (by EA) and it's REALLY not worth your while to sweat the deets.

It's kinda like when I chose to take on 'Crushing' difficulty (for Uncharted: the Lost Legacy) despite never having played a PS4 game on its hardest setting before. I wanted to challenge myself. It's hardly big or clever because there's a thing called ADAPTIVE
AI and it really does beat you senseless. But what the hey, I finished the game and then opened up The Last of Us on GROUNDED difficulty - the hardest (or so I thought). Apparently there's a Grounded PLUS difficulty... okay, you can keep that one to yourselves.
I've been playing games since 1993, and I'd like to think my battle scars have me left me hardened; impenetrable to pain. But it still smarts when I have to constantly replay checkpoints (or encounters) because there's only *one* LINEAR outcome. And sure,
you can try to outsmart the house, but the house ALWAYS WINS!

Ditto for Andromeda. Don't waste your time, brandiesel.

In regard to the original trilogy, I actually like the combat more in the first game.

The 'better' combat in the two sequels seem to come from the dice roll being removed from the gunplay and thus it becoming a twitch shooter. Unfortunately the balance of the combat was shifted squarely in the favour of the gun based classes in ME2 and 3.

Ammo became a power and so a class such as an Adept who used Cryo ammo in the first game was now unable to do so (it wasn't even one you could gain as a bonus ability) and so an ammo type was cut off from certain classes.

Biotics became next to useless in the sequels at the higher difficulty levels, with all enemy types gaining levels of shields, barriers, or armour. The most you could hope for now was a brief stagger or hold while you took them down with your guns. That or
hide behind the plentiful chest high walls in order to spam biotic combos. Though I must admit that Charge, Nova, Shotgun was a pretty fun way to fight.

The dice roll in the gunplay may have annoyed some but the enemies in Mass Effect 1 were also tied to it, they could actually miss. In the sequels unless the enemies were using heavy weapons, they all had supernatural aim and could hit you unerringly as soon
as your head appeared. Which was a bit of a shame really as the effective shield systems of the first game were now seemingly replaced with wet toilet tissue generators they were that weak. That meant that actually leaving the loving embrace of the chest high
wall was something that almost seemed frowned upon.

A small side must be given over to my hatred of your squadmates heads which really looked as if they were imprinted on Shepard's bum in ME2.

That's not to say I hated everything about the combat changes. The sound effects were certainly better, and each gun (even in the same type) felt different to use. But oh the separate melee button was a godsend, a true godsend.

Sliding back to Andromeda. If the cover system had just been something the player had to make a choice to enter, instead of being distance sensitive, then I would have said it was the best of the franchise so far.

The way I see it, MEA doesn't measure up to the previous series, much in the way that J3rs3y Devil said. The characters only generated a bit of interest on the surface for me, at best. They did little to nothing to make me feel drawn to them. Ryder is nothing
special right out of the box... and despite what the story charges him/her to accomplish... does little to become more than that. I almost found the enemies to be more intriguing than my squad mates and my squad mates were more interesting than Ryder.

Perhaps a big part of the disappointment surrounding so-called 'big' releases these days might be down to player fatigue, or that sense of entitlement that everything should be bigger, badder and brasher than before. Interestingly, the Metacritic for Andromeda
shows that it's nestled (just) inside the favorable zone - 76, but not by much (if the rating dips below 75, then it would merely be classed as average). And that's where Agents of Mayhem - a revisionist take on the Saints Row universe - has also ended up,
at least on Xbox.

I've played both games obsessively, and I'd certainly agree that both suffered from a sense of being not-quite-there yet, but in the case of Andromeda it's almost universally regarded as a write-off. Shame really, but I do believe that the more you put into
a game the more you'll derive from it - especially if you're already invested in the world or the characters. Ryder may've been a hollow shell to you, but the beauty of these 'big' games is that you're asked to actively engage with them, and if you spend any
quality time in customization (which is a hallmark of BioWare's games), then you can certainly pick up the slack for any creative shortfalls.

Andromeda may have its faults, but whatcha gonna do? Cry about it? Alternatively, you could easily choose *not* to play it, or rate it (as many have done). Just goes to show how spoiled for choice we are in these modern times!