What the heck is going on here, where i am?

[quote user="II PARALLAX II"]8 out of 10 games, I swear my team are a bunch of coked out spider monkey's ...looking like they're jammin to some "Y.M.C.A.'' in the spawn[/quote]Yeah,I agree,you seen a couple of my threads about team mates,I don't blame new
people as they are just learning the game and we all have to start somewhere but when you get people who are like rank 15 totally ignoring the fact there are flags to be taken,I think that is plenty of time to learn how to play,some people just seem to run
around like headless chickens.I think choppers can only be classed as OP if you got a team full of these people,If you end up in a server with a 3-4 guys on the other team who know what they're doing and use the vaguest hint of teamwork then you get knocked
out of the sky pretty quick.A guided shell is an OHK when used with the CITV, and does'nt often miss.However saying that i did'nt agree with making stingers useless,I thought they should have left them alone as they are fairly easy to avoid anyway.Now there
is no point even equipping them.I am not really a pilot but i can do pretty good in choppers when want to,If you fly them abit you will see that they are not so easy to fly against a good team.Gunner seat is easy mode,specially with ground to air missiles/shells(whatever
they are)but piloting can be quite tricky imo.

parallax, that was not directed toward you, I have no problem with you or really anyone who has opinions about a game... if you think helicopters are too powerful in this game and can say why then fine, but your buddy coming in and simply saying "you think
choppers are fine so I'm lumping you in with the CoD crowd" did get on my nerves.

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If I had too, I would guess you probably get put on bad teams consistantly. I mentioned the circumstances in my last post... in which cases it certainly does feel like the helicopters are pretty damn OP, but they're not, bad teammates are severely underpowered.
Maybe you should add some of the UXF guys? Get two or three communicating friends in a lobby and the helos don't stand a chance. Just a suggestion.

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As for your gripes with the technical issues... I agree, I don't think that part was meant for me but oh well

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[quote user="APOCACIDE"]

ive seen u post about how the helo isnt op, thats bull, and puts u in that category

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That statement was just plain dumb. I don't think choppers are OP so I must just play the game to fly...

But I'll humor the chopper argument again anyway.

Get in a jet, one burst destroys the thing completely. Get a friend with in a laser designator and shoot a guided missile that is handheld or on any vehicle for 2 free kills. Get in your own teams chopper, all the ability is taken out of Heli v. heli fights
because of the heat seekers. Hit the thing with the overpowered indestructible AA or the overpowered AA tank. It's even easy to hit the things with a tank shell in this game because the shells travel at lightspeed with little drop. Remember the old days when
the only way were RPGs/unguided rockets? Well they're still here too.

"Oh but I don't want to learn or work, I want the stinger to be powerful enough that I can just look up in the sky to press a button and make all my problems go away"

Cry me a river.

even the rockets of the pilot are ***, the only thing with killing power in the helo is the gunner seat, and half the time when I get a random gunner he can't kill a thing.

Maybe it's you?

[/quote]I enjoyed gunning for you Der,I was having a bad game so i jumped in your chopper and ended up going 22-6 or something.You made my job easy.On topic.I did'nt think stingers needed nerfing but there are plenty of ways to take a chopper out,Problem
is everyone wants the glory of the kills but not the job of designating targets.Teamwork is key and it is hard to take helo's down atm only because no-one wants to work as a team yet.Even if i go on CITV with randies and paint targets all day it is still quite
rare that they take em out.people will learn soon enough.I would'nt say choppers are OP,just people don't wanna work together yet.

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That's the thing, it is only possible to do really well in a chopper against a bunch of people who aren't experienced and/or aren't working together. The only times I have had trouble against a chopper is playing alone where I designate a chopper for 5 minutes
but no one switches to javelins or guided missiles, I get in a jet but the enemy jets have been flying unopposed the whole round, get in my friendly chopper but the gunner shoots at tanks instead of the enemy chopper and doesn't pop flares, etc...

Yes the helicopters are a useful tool, but they require practice and technique. Still the counters to them are more powerful than the choppers themselves and people still complain because the stinger (look in the sky and press a button weapon) are not very
useful. It's silly.

[quote user="APOCACIDE"]

ive seen u post about how the helo isnt op, thats bull, and puts u in that category

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That statement was just plain dumb. I don't think choppers are OP so I must just play the game to fly...

But I'll humor the chopper argument again anyway.

Get in a jet, one burst destroys the thing completely. Get a friend with in a laser designator and shoot a guided missile that is handheld or on any vehicle for 2 free kills. Get in your own teams chopper, all the ability is taken out of Heli v. heli fights
because of the heat seekers. Hit the thing with the overpowered indestructible AA or the overpowered AA tank. It's even easy to hit the things with a tank shell in this game because the shells travel at lightspeed with little drop. Remember the old days when
the only way were RPGs/unguided rockets? Well they're still here too.

"Oh but I don't want to learn or work, I want the stinger to be powerful enough that I can just look up in the sky to press a button and make all my problems go away"

Cry me a river.

even the rockets of the pilot are ***, the only thing with killing power in the helo is the gunner seat, and half the time when I get a random gunner he can't kill a thing.

Maybe it's you?

what the heck is going on?