We need 1080p 60fps games!

Add me to the list of Lloydy agreeers!

 

I'm gonna throw this in there

1st off, yes the X1 is a next gen console. its significantly more powerful then the 360. isn't that kinda the point? I mean when the SNES came out and was 16 bit over the 8 bit NES did people say it wasn't next gen because it should have been 32 bit minimum?
Why do people feel the need to "set a standard" based on their own opinion is beyond me. The X1 also packs a bunch of features the 360 wasn't capable of. Things like suspend/resume , snap, mutitasking, built in game DVR, twitch streaming, etc. On top of that,
take a game like halo 4. it was beautiful for its time running on the 360 at 720p and 30FPS. now 2 years later it will be in 1080p and 60fps on the X1. doesn't that show its "more powerful" or "next gen" when compared to the 360 version from 2 years ago?

Also there are more to games then resolution and framrate. Most of the devs don't care as much about res/FR when compared to things like AI, Map size, etc. Look at DR3 compared to DR2. yes its 720p and 30fps, but the map is also 4+ times the size as DR2,
it also has no loading once you launch the game compared to DR2 which loads way too much at every point that separates an area. and if you took a wrong turn get ready to sit in 2 load screens lol. It also was very limited in vehicles where DR3 has a ton of
them and combo vehicles you can create. It also has a ton more zombies then DR2. So even though it was only 720p and 30fps, how could you argue that DR3 isn't a big step up from DR2? and the character models themselves look much better

 

I agree, anyone saying that XB1 or PS4 are not next Gen need to get their head examined.

 

Jaysus man, this is just crazy talk. Now these consoles are not next gen? Everyone really is short sighted. Doesn't anyone remember how Rainbow Six Vegas looked like when it hit shelves? Everyone was blown away. Now look at it compared to say Splinter
Cell Blacklist, or Tomb Raider or Halo 4. C'mon now.

 

1st off, yes the X1 is a next gen console. its significantly more powerful then the 360. isn't that kinda the point? I mean when the SNES came out and was 16 bit over the 8 bit NES did people say it wasn't next gen
because it should have been 32 bit minimum? Why do people feel the need to "set a standard" based on their own opinion is beyond me. The X1 also packs a bunch of features the 360 wasn't capable of. Things like suspend/resume , snap, mutitasking, built in game
DVR, twitch streaming, etc. On top of that, take a game like halo 4. it was beautiful for its time running on the 360 at 720p and 30FPS. now 2 years later it will be in 1080p and 60fps on the X1. doesn't that show its "more powerful" or "next gen" when compared
to the 360 version from 2 years ago?

Wow... thank you... that may not be verbatim how I would have put it, but it's too da** close for me to bother posting my own thoughts.

I know I'm not alone in being sick of seeing this argument. I'm confident we haven't even seen the full capabilities of the X1 yet. But people still want to complain. It's a next
gen console and if it doesn't live up to the self entitled expectations that some people just have to hold it to, then they should go design their own ****ing console. I should be selling crying towels on ebay, could've probably retired by now. lol

 

Hello everyone

Please understand that it isn't my intention to be mean / rude to those that are demanding 1080p @ 60 fps games now, but you need to give the developers a break people.

Seriously, the Xbox One has only been out for 8 months (as of this posting) and you need to give the developers time to get familiar with how to get the most out of it (the Xbox One).

I hate to burst your bubble, but expecting "the best possible game" from launch is absolutely ridiculous becauase this stride (the best possible game) isn't attained until the middle to the end life span of a console.

Just because the games aren't running with 1080p @ 60 fps now, it doesn't mean that they aren't great.

Game developers have a limited time frame in which to produce a game because the longer it is in production, the more money they're (the game developers) are spending. Thus, games can't take forever in development / production.

With that being said, I would rather NOT HAVE 1080p @ 60 fps and play a game that is well designed & awesome than play a game that is so focused on achieving 1080p @ 60 fps that everything else (story, gameplay mechanics, user interface, etc...) is rushed
just to meet the release date.

At the end of the day, it is everthing else (story, gameplay mechanics, user interface, etc...) that has the greatest impact on a game(s) success; not the graphics.

Graphics are important too, its just that it (graphics) should always come in 2nd place to everything else (story, gameplay mechanics, user interface, etc...).

In my opinion, any game developer can guarantee a 1080p @ 60 fps game if they completely ignore everything else (story, gameplay mechanics, user interface, etc...). Just don't be surprised that the end product of this isn't going to be well received & fails
(but at least it is 1080p @ 60 fps, thats whats important).

Have a nice day or afternoon or night everyone

 

Hey, I'm not real particular on resolution if it's close. But as an owner of Both next gen systems, I can see the difference on the multiplats. It's VERY minor in most cases accept where the framerate is concerned, but it is still a difference. So just stating
that simply, on multiplats, I have to go with the one that is better, even if it means the tiniest or slightest advantage. What reason would I not?

And therein lies the X1's biggest hurdle. If they can't reach graphical parity with PS4 on multiplats, it's going to hurt sales. We have already seen it. For the better part of the year the slightly more powerful box was $100 less. Now they have price parity
which should help some.

The question that keeps rattling around in my head is how did MS let this happen? Spencer has already stated that DX12 isn't going to make the difference everyone was hoping for. I know I was hoping it would be the final piece of the puzzle that pushed performance
to what we all expected. This is MS people! This console should not be struggling to run these games at "today's" resolutions. The X1 should have squashed the PS4. Everything was in place for an easy win, all they had to do was deliver the most powerful console
like they have done every generation. Sony was ready to fall. Lost opportunity for them, a less significant leap in performance from last gen for us.

 

>>The question that keeps rattling around in my head is
how did MS let this happen? Spencer has already stated that
DX12 isn't going to make the difference everyone was hoping for. I know I was hoping it would be the final piece of the puzzle that
pushed performance to what we all expected. This is MS people!
This console should not be struggling to run these games at "today's" resolutions. The X1 should have squashed the PS4. Everything was in place for an easy win,
all they had to do was deliver the most powerful console like they have done every generation. Sony was ready to fall. Lost opportunity for them,
a less significant leap in performance from last gen for us.<<

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My sentiments exactly.

 

"...the most powerful console like they have done every generation..."

Funny,because PS3 is "more powerful" than Xbox 360,at least 80 millions gamers believed that.Same thing with this generation....So far no proof,no gap.

 

Irrespective of how MS allowed it to happen - the evidence suggests the matter has been resolved.

They have made changes recently such that developers have confirmed they can now parity with PS4 - i.e. see recent updates on Destiny by Bungie. (Yes I know, it's "only" 30fps, but so is the PS4 version).

So the criticisms may have been valid - but now that MS has released more power for games (taken off Kinect set-aside) then surely we are now in wait and lets see if differences still exist between the consoles.

Not sure what else you expect MS to do?