We need 1080p 60fps games!

Agreed Lei Fang. The 1080P and 60FPS is way overblown. 4 words prove that. Ryse Son of Rome.

:)

 

Battlefield Hardline will be 720p on X1

You have to wonder why Devs still arent hitting the 1080p 60fps mark on all games right now.

Publisher: 'We need this game out by ## date. You have this much budget. Get to it.'

Dev: That's pushing it... we don't have the time to get it working @1080p, 60fps. We either need more time, or more budget to hire more people so they can work on...'

Publisher: 'We need this game out by ## date. You have this much budget. Get. to. it.'

Dev: 'We can't make 1080p, 60fps with those constraints. People are going to be upse...'

Publisher: 'The internet will cry. People will still buy. Our profits will soar toward the sky. You will sigh.'

Dev: 'Whatever, I guess... You're the boss.' *sigh*

Publisher: 'See?...'

 

Another next gen console thread/rumors/predictions

We need a new console for better graphics and performance in games. Hopefully the next console will be strong enough to support Direct X 11.1, 60fps, and 1080p on all games.

 

^^ Halo 3 proved it years ago, but yes, Ryse currently.

 

I'm really not sure what you are
on about.

Not once I have said in this discussion that graphics make the game. I don't know where you could have picked that up. If you could point it out to me I would be very grateful as obviously the clarity of my writing needs improvement.

I'm afraid I also fail to see how pointing out resolution and frame rate have been a part of game design from the very beginning is in anyway acting like a child.

 

I think @Biscuit makes his argument fairly and sensibly so don't think implying he's a child or something is fair. I don't agree with him but show some respect to each other.

Playing a game at 640x480 is fine as long as you let me upscale it to 1080p - that's my point. I'm not advocating we go back to low res....but I'd much rather play a game set to render at lower res with ultra settings and a 60+ fps than reduce the graphics
settings or frame rate just to render 1080p!

Graphically speaking only, yes rendering at higher resolution will benefit us (and it DOES matter) - but only AFTER graphics settings and frame rate are the best they can be - and NO game has got to that yet. That's my point.

 

Hello "Satsumo"

That is the problem that happends when you play Original Xbox (with a Composite Cable) or older consoles on an HDTV.

Unfortunately (as far as I know), there is no way that the user can disable the up-convertion at all

Have a nice day or afternoon or night

 

I hope you guys and gal fing a game on the one that only thing is grifthics with no good story,gameplay and replayed value.

 

I think @Biscuit makes his argument fairly and sensibly so don't think implying he's a child or something is fair. I don't agree with him but show some respect to each other.

I rarely try posting in threads like this one, as it just seems like a waste of effort, but there are a few overall points I'd like to make.

First off, you make a fair point on the argument @Biscuit makes... at least he's trying to be civil. But here's the problem and IMO it should be common sense. The thread's title,
"We need 1080p 60fps games!" is demanding. Not to mention that the entire body of the OP is little more than 2 sentences... that set a demanding tone of entitlement and negativity.

To put it bluntly, it is self defeatist to come into a thread where the OP has set such a tone and then try to have a fair and sensible 'discussion'. Is it any surprise that there
are insulting, negative posts? It shouldn't be. Combine this with the fact that a lot of people are just getting tired of this 'discussion'. This horse is becoming nothing more than a massy blob of stinking pulp... all the 'discussion' we can have won't change
that.

This leads me to my final point, about the subject at hand. Others have made this point... I've said this several times in multiple threads and I sometimes have to wonder why I
even bother. People do little more than completely ignore it, or dismiss it... likely because they know it's true... but it just isn't what they want to hear.

All we have to do is look at the Xbox 360 and its history to see what's happening. Pick any game series that follows the 360s life cycle from start to now. I use GOW simply because
it's an excellent example. Look at GOW then >> to GOW3. The graphics advancement is a virtual quantum leap. Why is it that people just don't get this? Put the Xbox 360 and the X1 beside each other on their respective timelines. The X1 is barely at the GOW
stage of its timeline. It's early in the X1 life cycle and the devs need more time and experience with the hardware. You can't have GOW3 graphics when you're in the GOW stage of the timeline. Simple as that, like it or not, full stop.

If you don't have the patience to wait for the natural progress of graphics improvement, this isn't MS's problem... it isn't the devs problem... and it isn't a hardware problem.
It's your problem... and all the 'discussion' on these forums isn't going to change it.

 

I'd rather play a game at 900p, with all the bells and whistles, upscaled to 1080p at 60fps by the Xbox One than at 1080p with graphics toned down and at 30fps. The difference between Xbox One upscaled 1080p and native 1080p is so minor it's not worth complaining
about. Certainly won't see me complaining about the graphics in Titanfall, Ryse, or Killer Instinct anyway. A stable frame rate, to me, is far more important whether it's 30fps, 60fps, or something inbetween.

 

@ Unreal - The argument of games being 1080p and dumbed down is your own concoction.

I don't know if you're implying that other consoles do this or just the PS4....but I don't play 1080p games without the bells and whistles.

And there are games on other platforms that prove this.

You're just implying that theres that on the other side of the pasture.

 

I'll just leave
this here.

Come back when you have something worthwhile to read instead of your usual Sony championing.

 

Wonder how long till people start demanding 4K resolution on games?

 

Whatever Unreal.

You're basically saying, in your first sentence, that just due to upscaling, even if a machine is inferior, devs can put 1000000000 men on screen....and light up your TV like a Xmas tree.

I honestly wonder who believes your.......junk talk.

 

so icn3d dont have xbox one but he is quick to judge makes sense