Tomb Raider Definitive not that "Definitive" lol

Discus and support Tomb Raider Definitive not that "Definitive" lol in XBoX Games and Apps to solve the problem; 'HALO doesn't look as good as good as the stuff on the ONE but it certainly plays as smoothly'. . No it doesn't. Call of Duty is noticeably smoother... Discussion in 'XBoX Games and Apps' started by Azrael008uk, Feb 1, 2014.

  1. Tomb Raider Definitive not that "Definitive" lol


    'HALO doesn't look as good as good as the stuff on the ONE but it certainly plays as smoothly'.

    .

    No it doesn't. Call of Duty is noticeably smoother and 60FPS is part of that. I agree with Isaac.
     
    ChainSmokingBob, Feb 3, 2014
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  2. [quote user="Azrael008uk"]
    [quote user="IsaacClarkeSNL"]

    Maybe you don't, but it is definately apparent when you go from playing a match of Call of Duty in 60 FPS, then to a game of Halo with 30 FPS. It's like playing a slideshow. Is it huge? No, but it definitely better than 30 FPS with the ability to yell at
    you TV.

    [/quote]



    Sounds like the issue is with your television.



    HALO doesn't look as good as good as the stuff on the ONE but it certainly plays as smoothly.

    [/quote]Sounds like the issue is with your eyes being blinded by loyalty Azrael...
     
    WILK0-98D843A7-6EBD-4ABC-A1C2-5D9DBF1CA00A, Feb 3, 2014
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  3. Azrael008uk
    Azrael008uk Guest
    [quote user="WILK0"] Sounds like the issue is with your eyes being blinded by loyalty Azrael... [/quote]



    Sorry Willy.



    There's hyperbole and there's just being silly.



    Claiming that HALO plays like a stop motion slide show at 30FPS is just silly.



    (Hey... "Silly Willy"... that rhymes).



    On the other hand if his game is actually doing that there's something seriously wrong with his system/disc/telly.
     
    Azrael008uk, Feb 3, 2014
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    I never said it plays like a slide show...

    I simply agreed that 1080p/60fps is better than 720p/30fps.
     
    WILK0-98D843A7-6EBD-4ABC-A1C2-5D9DBF1CA00A, Feb 3, 2014
    #19
  5. jaihawk
    jaihawk Guest
    [quote user="IsaacClarkeSNL"]

    ...except a higher FPS generally makes a game play smoother (and therefore better, in layman's terms).

    [/quote]

    Not sure how this obvious tid gets missed so easy. That's exactly what a smoother frame rate does, is help make gameplay better. For those that don't think so, they probably try and argue a better resolution has no effect on how the game looks as well.
     
    jaihawk, Feb 3, 2014
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  6. MVRK HNTR
    MVRK HNTR Guest
    [quote user="WILK0"]

    I never said it plays like a slide show...

    I simply agreed that 1080p/60fps is better than 720p/30fps.

    [/quote]

    Not if it's 720p / 30 fps + Kinect integration it isn't.

    Being able to issue voice commands totally increases the level of immersion like never before. So much so that resolution and frame rate are rendered irrelevant to the gameplay experience. I mean, why would I want 1080p / 60 fps
    when I can just yell at Kinect to change weapons for me?
     
    MVRK HNTR, Feb 3, 2014
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  7. [quote user="MVRK HNTR"]
    [quote user="WILK0"]

    I never said it plays like a slide show...

    I simply agreed that 1080p/60fps is better than 720p/30fps.

    [/quote]

    Not if it's 720p / 30 fps + Kinect integration it isn't.

    Being able to issue voice commands totally increases the level of immersion like never before. So much so that resolution and frame rate are rendered irrelevant to the gameplay experience. I mean, why would I want 1080p / 60 fps
    when I can just yell at Kinect to change weapons for me?

    [/quote]I'll bet you a praying for a Ninja Gaiden Kinect edition, in glorious 720p/30fps!
     
    WILK0-98D843A7-6EBD-4ABC-A1C2-5D9DBF1CA00A, Feb 3, 2014
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    [quote user="Azrael008uk"]Claiming that HALO plays like a stop motion slide show at 30FPS is just silly.[/quote]You're taking what I said out of context. If I was to say that the game plays like a slideshow, that would be silly. To say that Halo (which runs
    at 30 FPS) looks like a slide show compared to a game that runs at 60 FPS, is what I said. Of course Halo is not literally a slideshow, but I feel I shouldn't have to clarify that.

    Almost anyone would agree that if you go from playing a 60 FPS game to a 30 FPS, it is not very pleasing on the eyes.
     
    IsaacClarkeSNL, Feb 4, 2014
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  9. Ascenion
    Ascenion Guest
    I don't get this 60fps argument the PS4 only hit 60 when almost nothing was going on and even then it still had random frames dropped. I'd like to have the best most consistent performance and if the Digital Foundry analysis is anything to go by the X1 won.
    That 60fps is nice when it's held there, but I'll take 1080/30 or 720/60 any day if they give the best performance.
     
    Ascenion, Feb 4, 2014
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  10. MVRK HNTR
    MVRK HNTR Guest
    [quote user="Ascenion"]

    I don't get this 60fps argument the PS4 only hit 60 when almost nothing was going on and even then it still had random frames dropped. I'd like to have the best most consistent performance and if the Digital Foundry analysis is anything
    to go by the X1 wo
    n. That 60fps is nice when it's held there, but I'll take 1080/30 or 720/60 any day if they give the best performance.

    [/quote]

    Did you read the entire article? In the Digital Foundry Verdict section the second paragraph opens like so:

    "Overall, PlayStation 4 takes the lead where the next-gen consoles are concerned, with the higher quality effects work and higher frame-rates providing a preferable experience overall, particularly during heated combat, where
    the drops in performance are both felt and seen more heavily on the Xbox One
    ."


    I'm not sure how you interpreted that as the Xbox One version "winning" that comparison.
     
    MVRK HNTR, Feb 4, 2014
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  11. Burst Axe
    Burst Axe Guest
    ^The only way to win or lose that comparison is if the game is unplayable on the other system. People parroting the numbers just shows how easily people are swayed by nonsense.
     
    Burst Axe, Feb 4, 2014
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  12. [quote user="Burst Axe"]
    ^The only way to win or lose that comparison is if the game is unplayable on the other system. People parroting the numbers just shows how easily people are swayed by nonsense.

    [/quote]Or how blind fanbois are...
     
    WILK0-98D843A7-6EBD-4ABC-A1C2-5D9DBF1CA00A, Feb 5, 2014
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  13. Ascenion
    Ascenion Guest

    Tomb Raider Definitive not that "Definitive" lol

    [quote user="MVRK HNTR"]

    [quote user=""]

    I don't get this 60fps argument the PS4 only hit 60 when almost nothing was going on and even then it still had random frames dropped. I'd like to have the best most consistent performance and if the Digital Foundry analysis is anything
    to go by the X1 wo
    n. That 60fps is nice when it's held there, but I'll take 1080/30 or 720/60 any day if they give the best performance.

    [/quote]

    Did you read the entire article? In the Digital Foundry Verdict section the second paragraph opens like so:

    "Overall, PlayStation 4 takes the lead where the next-gen consoles are concerned, with the higher quality effects work and higher frame-rates providing a preferable experience overall, particularly during heated combat, where
    the drops in performance are both felt and seen more heavily on the Xbox One
    ."


    I'm not sure how you interpreted that as the Xbox One version "winning" that comparison.

    [/quote]

    I meant for that to be interpreted as my opinion since I prefer consistency. No doubt in raw numbers the PS4 wins, it'd be impossible for it not to it is stronger. Fact. However the video shows the PS4 only ever hit 60 when nothing was really going on and
    overall the X1 remained mostly on target at 30 frames, while the PS4 was usually around 10 frames lower than 60 often enough that they really shouldn't advertise as 1080/60. Locking both these at 30 would've been the best Idea I believe, still the X1 fluctuates
    far less, which I believe offers a more solid overall experience unless you like all the judder that PS4 version has to have.
     
    Ascenion, Feb 5, 2014
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  14. Azrael008uk
    Azrael008uk Guest
    [quote user="WILK0"]Or how blind fanbois are...

    [/quote]

    There's people on the Forums who've played the game and are sharing how much they enjoyed it.



    There's people on the Forums who are Cyber Squatting on the boards of a console they don't even own trying to convince people there's a discernable difference between the different Next Gen versions.



    The Forums are made up of 2 types of people.



    Those who enjoy their games.



    And those who can't stand to see other people enjoying their games.



    We know which one you are.
     
    Azrael008uk, Feb 5, 2014
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  15. jaihawk
    jaihawk Guest
    "The Forums are made up of 2 types of people.

    Those who enjoy their games.

    And those who can't stand to see other people enjoying their games."

    Azrael, which one are you
     
    jaihawk, Feb 14, 2014
    #30
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