Strict NAT, Tried everything

Discus and support Strict NAT, Tried everything in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; What Country/State/Province do you live in? USA,California Router brand & model number: Cisco Linksys E900 Who is your ISP?(Internet... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by RyanRitterbusch ✔, Jan 10, 2014.

  1. Strict NAT, Tried everything


    What Country/State/Province do you live in? USA,California



    Router brand & model number:
    Cisco Linksys E900











    Who is your ISP?(Internet Service Provider):
    Cox Cable

    :)
     
    RyanRitterbusch ✔, Jan 10, 2014
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  2. NAT Strict - Seemingly Tried Everything

    Factory restore fixed it. Open NAT and no teredo error. I'll keep you guys updated if it changes, but chalking this up to the latest system update. I love how helpful you were GZA. Faith in internet forums and humanity restored. Faith in Xbox updates however...lol
     
    AEGIS OF DEATH, Jan 10, 2014
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  3. Malacath
    Malacath Guest
    NAT Strict - Seemingly Tried Everything

    Ah ok i missed that part.

    Arent you still supposed to login to your isp when connected directly to a modem?

    Problem is there doesnt seem to be a login option in the network settings like there was on the 360 meaning that if you connect directly to a modem it cant connect. If there is a login option i cant find it.

    With my ISP i have to set username and password in the routers ppoe wan settings to get connection.

    Without login i get no connection
     
    Malacath, Jan 10, 2014
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    tried everything, never had a problem with my 360

    What Country/State/Province do you live in? USA,California

    Modem brand & model number: No personal modem, just the ethernet outlet set up by my apartment complex

    Router brand & model number: Cisco Linksys E900

    Wired or wireless: wired

    Things you have tried: putting xbone in dmz, port fowarding, switched the xbox off mode 

    Is UPnP Enabled? Yes

    Do you have a NAT error? If so, what is your NAT type? Strict, "Your network is behind a port-symmetric NAT"

    Any Error Codes you encounter: 0x40000000400000000

    Who is your ISP?(Internet Service Provider): Cox Cable
     
    RyanRitterbusch ✔, Jan 10, 2014
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  5. jmcode
    jmcode Guest
    Turn the Xbox completely off. What happens when you then plug the Xbox One directly into the ethernet port on your apartment wall, rather than to the E900, then turn it on and try?

    I suspect you have a double NAT situation (there is a probably a router with NAT firewall for your complex that is upstream of your own), which does not work well with the Teredo IPv6 solution the Xbox One uses...
     
    jmcode, Jan 10, 2014
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  6. same thing, strict nat when I plug it in from the wall. Its very frustrating I can chat with my friend in a Ghosts lobby, but when I join the Xbox Live party I can't hear him or it says "You can't join the party right now". 360 never had this problem don't
    know why it would start now
     
    RyanRitterbusch ✔, Jan 10, 2014
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  7. jmcode
    jmcode Guest
    It is likely because the Xbox 360 uses only IPv4. It does not have IPv6 support and does not use Teredo. The Xbox One fully supports IPv6, which is the future of the Internet (the supply of IPv4 addresses is pretty much exhausted). Because many ISPs and
    other parts of the Internet infrastructure (including many or most home users' routers) are not yet IPv6 capable (or have a broken implementation), the Xbox One uses a transition technology called Teredo to tunnel IPv6 over IPv4. Unfortunately, Teredo does
    not work in some setups such as symmetric NAT, double NAT, etc. Additionally, you have a problem in that your Xbox One is likely behind a symmetric NAT router over which you have no control--i.e. one run by your apartment complex. This means you cannot effectively
    forwards ports, enable UPnP, put the Xbox in DMZ, etc. (doing so on your own router is ineffective assuming I am correct that it is behind your complex's router).
     
    jmcode, Jan 10, 2014
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    Dr ritter, check what you use in network settings on the xbone. Is it ipv4 or ipv6.

    If its ipv6 than your router does have some sort of tunneling and its possible to turn of ipv6 actually. I checked it. Basically go to setup -> IPV 6 setup and at the bottom it has tunnel try to enable that, its pretty cryptic what it says there but I presume
    its teredo tunneling. IF not try disabling ipv6 all together and then perhaps try DMZ again. Reply back with what happens please.
     
    MarkSelezenev, Jan 11, 2014
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  9. @Snakebit333 Tried what you said, but nothing worked :\

    @GZA So basically I need to get in contact with my complex's IT and try and get them to open the ports on their end?
     
    RyanRitterbusch ✔, Jan 11, 2014
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  10. jmcode
    jmcode Guest
    Yes, if I am correct that you are behind a NAT router and firewall they are managing. If, as I understand, you are getting Internet via CAT5e/6 from the wall and do not have your own modem, then that is almost certain. You can verify by looking at the WAN
    IP of your E900, as reported in its web interface. If it is a private class IP (see explanation at
    whatismyipaddress.com/private-ip), then your E900 is behind another NAT router--presumably your complex-wide one. It may be very difficult to convince them to open ports for you, and what
    if another resident with an Xbox One wants the same? A port can only be forwarded to one host at a time...
     
    jmcode, Oct 31, 2018
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  11. jmcode Win User

    Strict NAT, Tried everything

    Yes, if I am correct that you are behind a NAT router and firewall they are managing. If, as I understand, you are getting Internet via CAT5e/6 from the wall and do not have your own modem, then that is almost certain. You can verify by looking at the WAN
    IP of your E900, as reported in its web interface. If it is a private class IP (see explanation at
    whatismyipaddress.com/private-ip), then your E900 is behind another NAT router--presumably your complex-wide one. It may be very difficult to convince them to open ports for you, and what
    if another resident with an Xbox One wants the same? A port can only be forwarded to one host at a time...
  12. RyanRitterbusch ✔ Win User

    Strict NAT, Tried everything

    @Snakebit333 Tried what you said, but nothing worked :\

    @GZA So basically I need to get in contact with my complex's IT and try and get them to open the ports on their end?
  13. jmcode Win User

    Strict NAT, Tried everything

    It is likely because the Xbox 360 uses only IPv4. It does not have IPv6 support and does not use Teredo. The Xbox One fully supports IPv6, which is the future of the Internet (the supply of IPv4 addresses is pretty much exhausted). Because many ISPs and
    other parts of the Internet infrastructure (including many or most home users' routers) are not yet IPv6 capable (or have a broken implementation), the Xbox One uses a transition technology called Teredo to tunnel IPv6 over IPv4. Unfortunately, Teredo does
    not work in some setups such as symmetric NAT, double NAT, etc. Additionally, you have a problem in that your Xbox One is likely behind a symmetric NAT router over which you have no control--i.e. one run by your apartment complex. This means you cannot effectively
    forwards ports, enable UPnP, put the Xbox in DMZ, etc. (doing so on your own router is ineffective assuming I am correct that it is behind your complex's router).
  14. RyanRitterbusch ✔ Win User

    Strict NAT, Tried everything

    same thing, strict nat when I plug it in from the wall. Its very frustrating I can chat with my friend in a Ghosts lobby, but when I join the Xbox Live party I can't hear him or it says "You can't join the party right now". 360 never had this problem don't
    know why it would start now
  15. MarkSelezenev Win User

    Strict NAT, Tried everything

    Dr ritter, check what you use in network settings on the xbone. Is it ipv4 or ipv6.

    If its ipv6 than your router does have some sort of tunneling and its possible to turn of ipv6 actually. I checked it. Basically go to setup -> IPV 6 setup and at the bottom it has tunnel try to enable that, its pretty cryptic what it says there but I presume
    its teredo tunneling. IF not try disabling ipv6 all together and then perhaps try DMZ again. Reply back with what happens please.
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