Star Club - New Klondike Pack - Easy I - Puzzle 1 is UNSOLVABLE!

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  1. Star Club - New Klondike Pack - Easy I - Puzzle 1 is UNSOLVABLE!


    The top left puzzle where you have to take three 4s onto the top shelf. It is totally unsolvable. And it is rated easy. :-(

    I am 99.99% sure of this because I have solved each and every puzzle in all other packs. 1190 stars before attempting this pack. Spent 2 hours on this and tried every move sequence. Not possible at all. I can probably write a program to perform a brute force
    search to prove it, but I don't think it's necessary.

    I will mark this down as another blunder by the development team. So much time wasted on one broken puzzle. Not impressed. :-(

    :)
     
    PaltryAmoeba564, Dec 2, 2014
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  2. SoberCrib34
    SoberCrib34 Guest
    UNSOLVABLE GAME

    kLONDIKE...TODAYS GAME 12/12/17 IS UNSOLVABLE,,,,CAN SOMEONE ADVISE

    THANK YOU
     
    SoberCrib34, Dec 2, 2014
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  3. solitare star club

    can I get a new batch of star club puzzles? I completed all of them.
     
    GatewayUserMJ, Dec 2, 2014
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  4. Patty729
    Patty729 Guest

    Star Club - New Klondike Pack - Easy I - Puzzle 1 is UNSOLVABLE!

    Easy I * Klondike * is solvable, I finished all 10 packs right now. Just try again !!
     
    Patty729, Dec 2, 2014
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  5. ProductDock0955, you must be looking at the wrong pack. The NEW "Klondike" pack (released a few days ago) only have 8 sub-packs, all of which Klondike puzzles (a total of 80). You were probably looking at the Klondike sub-pack of the FABLE pack.
     
    PaltryAmoeba564, Dec 2, 2014
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  6. TroyHoskison
    TroyHoskison Guest
    I came to the same conclusion. It is impossible.
     
    TroyHoskison, Dec 2, 2014
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  7. Patty729
    Patty729 Guest
    Sorry for this mistake, you are right the new pack has only 8 challenges.

    But I solved the pack - Easy I Klondike.today.

    I instead have a problem with the *Expert I *now.
     
    Patty729, Dec 2, 2014
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  8. Star Club - New Klondike Pack - Easy I - Puzzle 1 is UNSOLVABLE!

    ProduktDock0955, did you solve the WHOLE 10 puzzles in the "EASY I" sub-pack of the "Klondike Collection Name" pack? I don't think so. You probably just solved one puzzle out of that pack, or solved the "EASY II" sub-pack instead. The puzzle I'm talking
    about is the "Card Challenge" where you need to "Play 3 Fours to the Foundation". I don't think it is possible to be solved at all. You can prove me wrong by either posting a complete walkthrough, or capture a screenshot and show it here. But I highly doubt
    you can do it.
     
    PaltryAmoeba564, Dec 2, 2014
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  9. I'm sorry I stand corrected. Just solved that challenge now. It has to be done in a extremely convoluted way to unlock the Ace of hearts. DEFINITELY NOT easy.

    To make up for my earlier bold claims I will post a complete walkthrough soon.
     
    PaltryAmoeba564, Dec 2, 2014
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  10. Here is the complete walkthrough.

    9 clubs to 10 diamonds

    3 clubs to 4 hearts

    2 hearts to 3 clubs

    K spades to column 1

    A clubs to foundation

    8 diamonds to 9 clubs

    7 diamonds to 8 clubs

    7 clubs to 8 diamonds

    A spades to foundation

    Q hearts to K spades

    2 clubs to foundation

    J spades to Q hearts

    10 hearts to J spades

    6 clubs to 7 diamonds

    5 diamonds to 6 clubs

    A hearts to foundation

    2 hearts to foundation

    3 clubs to foundation

    2 spades to foundation

    3 spades to foundation

    4 spades to foundation

    3 hearts to foundation

    4 hearts to foundation

    5 hearts to foundation

    J clubs to Q diamonds

    10 diamonds to J clubs

    J diamonds to Q clubs

    4 clubs to foundation
     
    PaltryAmoeba564, Dec 2, 2014
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  11. It took me several tries, 30-45 minutes (lost track of time), but I beat it. I have to wake up at 4am eastern time to drive to work in freezing rain, so I don't have time for a full play-by-play.

    At the beginning/middle of the challenge, don't put the 6 of spades on the 7 of diamonds. Instead dig down to the 6 of clubs, fourth from bottom of 5th stack. This frees up the ace of hearts as the third ace for playing three fours.

    After the 6 of clubs is down, play the 5 of diamonds to it to free up the 3 of spades.

    I had skipped all the easy and medium challenges in this collection to concentrate on the hard and expert challenges to get stars as fast as possible. My favorites are Freecell and Pyramid, and I skip all but the easiest Tripeaks challenges, so I have a
    lot fewer stars than you have. Thanks for posting about this, I like a challenge. Star Club - New Klondike Pack - Easy I - Puzzle 1 is UNSOLVABLE! :)

    Although not impossible, this was harder than some of the expert boards. They may have inadvertently marked it as "Easy" as it's draw-one, where most of the hard and all of the expert challenges in this collection are draw-three.

    I'll be in heaven if Microsoft/Arkadium follow this up with all-Freecell and all-Pyramid Star Club collections. Star Club - New Klondike Pack - Easy I - Puzzle 1 is UNSOLVABLE! :) Hint hint Star Club - New Klondike Pack - Easy I - Puzzle 1 is UNSOLVABLE! :)

    EDIT: You beat it while I was typing all of that Star Club - New Klondike Pack - Easy I - Puzzle 1 is UNSOLVABLE! :)
     
    AgentScotty2112, Dec 2, 2014
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  12. There was only the original post when I first saw this thread. I guess I should've refreshed it after figuring out the challenge.
     
    AgentScotty2112, Dec 2, 2014
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  13. lazybone man
    lazybone man Guest

    Star Club - New Klondike Pack - Easy I - Puzzle 1 is UNSOLVABLE!

    You're realy great, thanks a lot.

    lasybone
     
    lazybone man, Dec 2, 2014
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  14. Patty729
    Patty729 Guest
    Hy, lasybone !!!

    Kann Klondike Expert I ( 700 Pkt. in 105 Zügen) nicht knacken.

    Need some help !! Star Club - New Klondike Pack - Easy I - Puzzle 1 is UNSOLVABLE! :)

    Solved already - all 10 Packs- Easy I

    9 Packs- Expert I (What about you?)

    regards
     
    Patty729, Dec 2, 2014
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  15. ProductDock0955, I've completed all 80 puzzles now. The one you mentioned is probably the trickiest one in the Expert level (all of them are actually easier than the "Easy" puzzle discussed in this thread, which they have sadly replaced with an actual easy
    puzzle).

    To solve the "700 points in 105 moves" puzzle, you need to know how the scoring system works. Basically each card move to foundation is worth 10 points, each card uncovering is worth 5, and each card pulled from the deck to the working area is worth 5 too.
    In the beginning you have 21 covered cards and 24 cards in the deck, so the maximum score you can get in an untimed game is (52*10 + 21*5 + 24*5) = 745 points, and the minimum score you can get is (52*10 + 21*5) = 625 points.

    To get 700 points, you need to get 75 points on top of the minimum 625, which means you need to pull 15 cards from the deck to the working area. Now we all know in limited moves puzzles like this one we want to save moves as much as possible and prefer to
    move deck directly to the foundation, but bear in mind that in this one you can only do so for 9 cards out of the 24 in the deck.

    In terms of moves, it means you are only allowed a maximum of (105 - 52 - 15) = 38 moves within the working area, which should be enough for manipulation purposes.
     
    PaltryAmoeba564, Dec 5, 2014
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