RGB Full Solution on X Box One and an apology for my post that has been deleted

Discus and support RGB Full Solution on X Box One and an apology for my post that has been deleted in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; So I posted yesterday about a problem with the PC RGB mode on the X Box One. I have found a solution for myself and wanted to share it. Unfortunately... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by MartyCanadaG, Mar 21, 2017.

  1. MartyCanadaG
    MartyCanadaG Guest

    RGB Full Solution on X Box One and an apology for my post that has been deleted


    So I posted yesterday about a problem with the PC RGB mode on the X Box One. I have found a solution for myself and wanted to share it.

    Unfortunately yesterday I didn't read the forum rules and I compared the X Box One with other consoles so I'm pretty sure it was flagged and taken down.

    Honestly this is an X Box Forum and I should have known better and will from here on out keep my personal opinions to do with other consoles away from this forum as it is rude and not appropriate to everyone that supports X Box and the X Box community.

    So to the X Box forum and community I apologize and would like to make amends.

    First off there isn't anything wrong with PC RGB setting and I let my impatience get the better of me.

    What was really wrong was my setting for the colour depth and I'm sure allot of people will also find this useful as otherwise they will run into the same issue I did.

    Any modern TV supports what is known as "deep colour" and although technically changing the colour depth should not effect anything per say but it does in fact improve the picture imo.

    I had my colour depth set to 8 bit also known as 24 bits per pixel. Your average TV setting at limited and the standard rgb setting on the X Box One makes excellent use of this in fact it looks so good that I'm sure most people wont bother to switch over. When
    you change to PC RGB mode and full mode on your tv I find that colour setting crushes blacks.

    So when you turn on PC RGB you should also change the colour depth to whatever your TV Supports, You can look this up usually on the internet or through experimentation see for yourself. If the setting you choose such as 10 bit or 12 bit only fades to a
    black screen then your tv does not support that colour depth. Makes it fairly easy to discover your maximum depth quickly.

    So after adjusting my settings to 36 bit aka 12 bits per pixel and turning both the tv and console on to full rgb wala the picture looks great in full. Due to the fact that I did not originally understand X Box One's system options I overlooked this and
    it was silly of me but its an easy mistake to make when you don't know what your doing or talking about.

    The other reason I overlooked it is because the internet sites and other forums say that there is no point in changing the colour depth as no content will support it anyways. That may be true but I still do notice a difference in overall picture quality.

    It is worth noting however that I still can't get the blacks to be perfect per say and I can still see quite a bit of black crush when playing games though not nearly as prominent as before.

    In the X Box calibration screen I still cannot see the closed eye no matter what adjustments I make which is curious. The picture it self has way more contrast and is seemingly better but I still feel like setting the X Box to standard and tv may produce
    better results even if those are not perfect either. On the standard setting i still notice a lil bit of black crush but it is not nearly as noticeable as on the PC RGB settings which again is curious.

    I like the PC RGB colour range much more as it is more vibrant and way more sharp but it almost seems like you lose details even when both are set up correctly.

    Still if you think that your TV's picture can be better on your X Box One and you can't figure out why despite being convinced by different things across the web that certain settings are the way to go then you may want to give this a try.

    I am going to experiment more today with standard and PC rgb settings and I'll see what I find and post an update later for those interested and who like this topic or are curious for their own tv setup.

    Cheers everyone.

    Hope this post helps out anyone new to this console like I was just yesterday.

    The X Box One once you understand it is quite the system.

    .

    :)
     
    MartyCanadaG, Mar 21, 2017
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  2. MartyCanadaG
    MartyCanadaG Guest
    Full RGB solution and apology to the x box community as well as a shoutout

    Before I begin posting this for a second time I just wanted to give a shout out too J3RS3Y DEVIL who recommended I post here instead of the X Box One console Forum. I give credit where credit is due. Thank you J3RS3Y DEVIL for
    redirecting me to the proper forum as I am still quite new at this.

    So the day before yesterday about a problem with the PC RGB mode on the X Box One. I have found a solution for myself and wanted to share it.

    Unfortunately I didn't read the forum rules and I compared the X Box One with other consoles and I was arrogant and rude in my first post so I'm pretty sure it was flagged and taken down and even if it wasn't hardly anyone read it.

    Honestly this is an X Box Forum and I should have known better and will from here on out keep my personal opinions to do with other consoles away from this forum as it is rude and not appropriate to everyone that supports X Box and the X Box community.

    So to the X Box forum and community I apologize and would like to make amends.

    First off there isn't anything wrong with PC RGB setting and I let my impatience get the better of me.

    What was really wrong was my setting for the colour depth and I'm sure allot of people will also find this useful as otherwise they will run into the same issue I did.

    Any modern TV supports what is known as "deep colour" and although technically changing the colour depth should not effect anything per say but it does in fact improve the picture imo.

    I had my colour depth set to 8 bit also known as 24 bits per pixel. Your average TV setting at limited and the standard rgb setting on the X Box One makes excellent use of this. It looks so good that I'm sure most people wont bother to switch over. When
    you change to PC RGB mode and full mode on your tv I have found that the 8 bit setting crushes blacks.

    So when you turn on PC RGB you should also change the colour depth to whatever your TV Supports. You can look this up usually on the internet or through experimentation see for yourself. If the setting you choose such as 10 bit or 12 bit only fades to a
    black screen then your tv does not support that colour depth. Makes it fairly easy to discover your maximum depth quickly.

    So after adjusting my settings to 36 bit aka 12 bits per pixel and turning both the tv and console on to full rgb wala the picture looks great in full.

    I emphasize the word "great" because it isn't perfect by a long shot.

    Due to the fact that I did not originally understand X Box One's system options I overlooked this and it was silly of me but its an easy mistake to make when you don't know what your doing or talking about.

    The other reason I overlooked it is because the internet sites and other forums say that there is no point in changing the colour depth as no content will support it anyways. That may be true but I still do notice a difference in overall picture quality.

    It is worth noting however that I still can't get the blacks to be perfect per say and I can still see quite a bit of black crush when playing games though not nearly as prominent as before.

    In the X Box calibration screen I still cannot see the closed eye no matter what adjustments I make which is curious.

    The picture it self has way more contrast and is seemingly better but I still feel like setting the X Box set to standard and tv set to limited may produce better results even if those are not perfect either. On the standard setting I still notice a lil
    bit of black crush but it is not nearly as noticeable as on the PC RGB settings which again is curious.

    I like the PC RGB colour range much more as it is more vibrant and way more sharp (seemingly) but it almost seems like you lose details even when both are set up correctly.

    Still if you think that your TV's picture can be better on your X Box One and you can't figure out why despite being convinced by different things across the web that certain settings are the way to go then you may want to give this a try.

    I am going to experiment more today (as i did not get the chance yesterday) with standard and PC rgb settings and I'll see what I find and post an update later for those interested and who like this topic or are curious for their own tv setup.

    I will post a follow up post to this with my findings later today or tomorrow.

    Keep in mind that different TV's all will have different settings and you may need to do more tweaking then I have. My

    TV is a Sony Bravia.

    Also keep in mind that if your TV does not support full range or deep colour then thats okay too. There is no such thing as a crappy TV when your a gamer. You play on what you can afford and and set things up based on what your TV has. Not everyone can afford
    to have top of the line brands and as long as you enjoy your games it doesn't matter what set up you have.

    If you have questions feel free to message me and I'll do what I can to help as time permits.

    Also If any one has a similar experience or feedback they would like to share then I'm all ears.

    I will not balk at or turn down any advice or opinion. Thats what forums are for.

    Cheers everyone.

    Hope this post helps out anyone new to this console like I was just yesterday.

    The X Box One once you understand it is quite the system.

    .
     
    MartyCanadaG, Mar 21, 2017
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  3. MartyCanadaG
    MartyCanadaG Guest
    RGB Full On X Box One (old topic but I don't get it)

    So I've checked out many different forums and sites and they only confuse me more.

    I understand the difference and what they both mean in the colour range spectrum aka limited= 16-255 and Full= 0-255 but what i don't understand is how every other console I own can output full rgb properly on my Sony Bravia ( yes it does show the content
    properly) in fact it looks so much better when both console and tv are set to full imo and shadows and details are not lost.

    So why is that when I set both console and tv to full on the X Box One the blacks completely crush all details?.

    Can someone can explain to me why on every other console be it Playstation 4 and even Nintendo Switch the Full Rgb setting works just fine with no crushed blacks but with X Box One all detail is completely crushed by an overpowering shadow detail?. Ive tweaked
    the settings a few times but to no avail it does not improve. Full is turned on both and settings for blacks and whites are calibrated correctly.

    Setting the X Box One to standard and the tv to limited seems to resolve this issue but you do lose the extra range of colour and detail or at least you seem too.

    What is even more confusing is that some articles state that you should set the tv to full and the x box one to standard.

    I always thought that mixing signals is a big no no so why do people say to do this?.

    There also seems to be a misconception that Standard Rgb is the "true full rgb" which again makes no sense.

    My Tv does support full range and i know it does without issue so why is it that the X Box One does not seem to work properly with it even though everything else does?

    Does anyone have a work around or some form of suggestion so that I can actually get the most and best picture from my X Box One?.

    Does anyone have a Sony Bravia and might be able to help out with the settings to fix them?

    Or is this just a standard issue and is unfixable because of the consoles design?

    Don't know if it makes a difference but I currently own the X Box One S.

    Any advice would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance!.
     
    MartyCanadaG, Mar 21, 2017
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  4. J3RS3Y DEVIL
    J3RS3Y DEVIL Guest

    RGB Full Solution on X Box One and an apology for my post that has been deleted

    You really must be new here.

    A polite poster with an informative post that might actually help someone with the same problem.

    +1

    Unfortunately, your info is wasted on the Riff-Raff that frequents this particular area of the forums.

    This would be better appreciated in the A/V section.

    BTW Welcome to Xbox. RGB Full Solution on X Box One and an apology for my post that has been deleted :)
     
    J3RS3Y DEVIL, Mar 21, 2017
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  5. MartyCanadaG
    MartyCanadaG Guest
    J3RS3Y DEVIL thank you for the warm welcome.

    The A/V Section huh?

    Alright then I'll repost there along with my findings later this morning.

    Thank you kindly.

    .
     
    MartyCanadaG, Oct 31, 2018
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  6. MartyCanadaG Win User

    RGB Full Solution on X Box One and an apology for my post that has been deleted

    You really must be new here.

    A polite poster with an informative post that might actually help someone with the same problem.

    +1

    Unfortunately, your info is wasted on the Riff-Raff that frequents this particular area of the forums.

    This would be better appreciated in the A/V section.

    BTW Welcome to Xbox. :)
    J3RS3Y DEVIL thank you for the warm welcome.

    The A/V Section huh?

    Alright then I'll repost there along with my findings later this morning.

    Thank you kindly.

    .
  7. J3RS3Y DEVIL Win User

    RGB Full Solution on X Box One and an apology for my post that has been deleted

    You really must be new here.

    A polite poster with an informative post that might actually help someone with the same problem.

    +1

    Unfortunately, your info is wasted on the Riff-Raff that frequents this particular area of the forums.

    This would be better appreciated in the A/V section.

    BTW Welcome to Xbox. :)
  8. RedEye Expr3ss Win User

    Xbox one and full range rgb?

    I have a Full RGB LG panel, for some reason the XB1 setting still will not work with it. Just crushed blacks which is a pain since everything else that can output full rgb does just fine. I've never been able to get an answer about this with the xb1, still,
    it's early days.

    Edit: Read you post above mine, My full rgb capable panel set to full rgb will not work properly with the xb1, maybe the setting is bogus?
  9. JTF195 Win User

    Display Calibration and RGB, black levels

    All of you are correct in describing how RGB Full and RGB Limited are SUPPOSED to work.

    On every device I own EXCEPT the Xbox 360 and Xbox One, the options for RGB Limited and RGB Full DO work this way.

    On the Xbox 360 and Xbox One, however, the RGB Limited option outputs RGB Full, and the RGB Full option is completely broken.
  10. unknpwn Win User

    Display Calibration and RGB, black levels

    Has there been any suggestions or news on this yet? JTF195 - I'm seeing the exact same issues with my setup as well. Looks to be outputting at RGB full regardless, and blacks are getting crushed. For now I'm just swapping my TV into RGB full (normally it's
    in limited) for XBONE use. Would be nice not to have to do this every time...
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