Resolution update

@tzar Forza 5 is native and Ryse is upscaled. Ryse native is 900p.

The point of this whole topic isn't whether or not you can tell a difference (which I can tell the difference) it's the fact that 1080p/60fps should be the standard. It shouldn't have to be upscaled. When the X1 starts putting up those numbers then the competition
will be about exclusives that each console has.

 

[quote user="ICN3D"]Eyes can tell blurred textures and jaggies[/quote]Not at distance, no.

Resolution, in and of itself, is not what determines how "good" an image is.

Carlton Bale did the research already. Click on the chart, it takes you to the page that the chart is based on.

Then you haven't tried it.

You aren't the masses. The chart clearly shows that you'll see some benefit from something higher than 720p.

I sit six feet from a 55" TV. I gain more of a benefit from 1080p than you do.

Except without further information we don't know what that's based on. Contrast is a far more important factor
than resolution. A lousy TV in the contrast department is going to make anything look like crap.

Not when you can't see them, which people sitting 10' from a 42" TV cannot.

It's
not. Taking one person's megapixel calculation and not taking into account how the eye works does not get you to a good explanation of what the eye can perceive.

Only if you're sitting close
enough. If you're not, there's no difference. The masses do not sit close enough.[quote user="xXxth3xcr0wxXx"]The point of this whole topic isn't whether or not you can tell a difference (which I can tell the difference) it's the fact that 1080p/60fps should
be the standard.[/quote]Why would I, as a PC gamer, want an inferior standard like 1080p60?

Consoles are targeted at the masses. The masses do not sit close enough (or don't have large enough TVs) for a 1080p render target to be a must-have at this time.

 

crown so why is driveclub only 30fps that game only has 55 cars and even less tracks? watchdogs is around 800p but doesnt bother me

 

You know I get tired of pc gamers commenting on console wars. Yes pc has better graphics but that's only because you can take a part the hardware and replace it with better. If you could do that with consoles then you would have valid argument, because it
would am even playing field. Until then no one cares about pc being the "dominate race".

 

Lol its crow but I get that alot. That is all a developers choice. A straight racing game is easier to code for and fender because there isn't as many events or rendered parts as watch dogs or battlefield.

 

[quote user="xXxth3xcr0wxXx"]You know I get tired of pc gamers commenting on console wars.[/quote]I'm a gamer. The platform doesn't matter.

"Console wars" are verboten on this forum. If that's your intent, go elsewhere.

Mainstream PC video cards outstrip the capabilities
in any current generation console, and have for several years. It's the first time in recent history where "next gen" launched with graphics capabilities that decidedly do not rival the high end on the PC front.

If you actually care about what resolution and frame rate your games run at, a midrange PC in the $600-$800 range will fare far better than any existing console. The reality is you don't care, you just want to hem and haw because there's litte to play at
this time.

 

I'm not arguing with you Icestorm.

You insist on claiming your opinions as fact. As if others are just plain lying about being able to see the difference in 720 and 1080.

Seriuosly....stick with an old PS2 and then just be quiet if resolution isn't noticable.

OMG...1280x720.....then 1900x1080p.....look at the number difference...now stop sitting there and playing smart guy....there is a huge number difference there.

 

numbers do not lie but res and fps does not matter. killzone was 1080i titanfall was 792p titanfall has more pixals then killzone titanfall was on a very old engine killzone was not. like i said res and fps does not matter. a friend of mine has just asked
me if i want to buy his titan gpu off him because he don't need it so i wil soon have a titan gpu. will i still play my xbox one? yes will i care about res and fps? no

 

It is a shame that a gamer can say “stick with the old consoles if resolution doesn't matter" as if the old console will have all the GAMES that the new console does. Its a failed argument the moment its broached because as a gamer you should be playing
games.

 

So... This is still a thing huh?

 

[quote user="ICN3D"]You insist on claiming your opinions as fact.[/quote]It's not an opinion, it's a limitation of the human vision system.

There's no indication
you're doing an apples to apples comparison. There's also the issue of not doing a bind or double bind test.

That's not the issue at hand. The issue at hand
is people complaining/bringing up sub-1080p titles on Xbox One. It doesn't matter. The titles are all over 720p. The texture resolution and poly counts are next gen. The constant yammering about resolution doesn't matter because on a console you can't do anything
about it.

There is, but if one cannot see it, it doesn't matter.

The delta between 480p and 720p was substantial. The delta between 720p and 1080p is decidedly less so. The Masses can discern a difference between 480p and 720p on a 42" TV at 10'. They can't discern a difference between 720p and 1080 on the same TV at
the same distance. People, in general, do not sit on top of their TVs. People, in general, do not use consoles as replacements for PCs. If you personally fall outside this range, then by all means go to another site that does all sorts of comparisons to make
up your mind about what platform to buy on, or just buy a PC where you have far greater control over these things.

 

@Duck....The reason Driveclub is 30fps as opposed to forza is the environment isn't static like on Forza. Clouds move, Day changes to night, etc. etc.

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Forza's environment looks like cardboard cutouts. They are always the same.

 

Oh cool, a resolution debate, sweet.

Let me just read if all the major points are brought up over & over again......

yup, everything looks in order here.

Crystal clear, like 1080p.

 

I know that Forza 5 is suppose to be at 1080p native and ryse 1080p upscale.It's all over internet.

But my question is,

From the same TV,is forza 5 runs at 1080p native or upscale ?

Is Ryse runs at 1080p native or upscale ?

Only with eyes and no devs resolution announcement.

Because some people seems to be able to see if a game runs at 1080p native or upscale.

Just want to know how ?....

 

^ agreed if no one said no one would know. everyone thought killzone was 1080p but it wasnt. for me numbers dont lie but the numbers dont bother me. if watchdogs is 720p 30fps for xbox one then so be it as long as i enjoy the single player then i am happy.
i enjoy mass effect trilogy yet mass effect1 isnt even 720p and mass effect 3 has some bad moments like when doing the citidal dlc jack doing chip ups you can see her hands aint even on the bars....does that bother me..... does that make me want to not play
the game...... no not one bit