Problems with Criteria for Xbox Enforcement Part 2

Discus and support Problems with Criteria for Xbox Enforcement Part 2 in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; Diatribe? Really? How is this a diatribe? And violations? The only reason they're violations is because Xbox made them violations. Recently in... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by dschein94, Jul 23, 2018.

  1. HAZMAT RADIO
    HAZMAT RADIO Guest

    Problems with Criteria for Xbox Enforcement Part 2


    diatribe

    noun: diatribe; plural noun: diatribes

    a forceful and bitter verbal attack against someone or something

    So, yeah...diatribe

    Xbox Live is the service, they are the one's who make the rules and you're the one who tries to break them. It's your account and your behavior.

    As an Ambassador or not, day after day and week after week, there are countless posts of "I got banned for no reason". And the occasional person who posts a manifesto.

    If you're that passionate about it, be constructive and lead by example.

    Or you can continue with "Oh but thanks for doing something useful" comments.
     
    HAZMAT RADIO, Jul 23, 2018
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  2. HAZMAT RADIO
    HAZMAT RADIO Guest
    That is exactly it! As an Ambassador, the paychecks are huge! I lose track of how many numbers there are before the decimal point...lemme check

    There might be a hint of sarcasm in that last statement.

    You're willing to do "research" by finding articles from other sites like fastcompany, theenquirer or kitguru but you don't do any research on the Ambassador program or what these forums are for. You're not doing your "cause" any justice by ranting here.
    It's users helping users here.

    I'm sorry that you don't understand the intent of the forums. I'm trying to point out that you are decreasing the value of your point the more that you rail against others here. And increase your position as one who's spiteful and demeaning.

    I wish you luck with your intent but I just don't thing you're going to get your point across.
     
    HAZMAT RADIO, Jul 23, 2018
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  3. dschein94
    dschein94 Guest
    Let’s get something straight here that you geniuses don’t seem to be grasping. I’m not pissed that I got a communications suspension from Xbox Live. I’m pissed because of the reason that I got a communications suspension from Xbox Live. I’m pissed because
    of how unapproachable Xbox support is about their enforcement team. I’m pissed about how clunky and unwieldy the enforcement appeal process is and the fact they make you basically write lines before u can even submit your appeal in that ridiculous questionnaire.
    I’m pissed that the only people who have responded to any of my forum posts in an area I thought was designed for players to talk to one another is a bunch of condescending pricks who are so convinced of their own self importance that they think they know
    the reasoning behind every argument they come across without even reading it and assume that the fact that I’m even writing on this forum post is just to bitch about being suspended. Well guess what geniuses. This ain’t the only place I’m posting this. I actually
    used that little site u gave me with the ideas thing for Xbox and posted on that so congrats, out of all your words that you’ve crammed into this forum post I managed to use one of them that may have been helpful. Also I don’t give 2 **** about this ambassador
    program of yours. I’m just of the opinion that anyone who doesn’t see how absolutely broken this system is is either worried about losing something they’ve acquired from Microsoft or is so deluded that they can’t see it. So I’m done with this post, I’m done
    being talked down to by people who don’t deserve the pleasure and most of all, I’m **** done with political **** agendas pushing their way into every facet of my **** life. I’m done.
     
    dschein94, Jul 23, 2018
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  4. HAZMAT RADIO
    HAZMAT RADIO Guest

    Problems with Criteria for Xbox Enforcement Part 2

    Xbox Support and the Xbox Forums have nothing to do with the Xbox Enforcement Team.

    Since you don't like the Enforcement process, then don't break the rules that they have in place.

    The way you treat others will impact how they will treat you. The name calling and derogatory remarks towards others are not going to bring anyone to listen to your issue that underlies your statements. It's users helping users here but when you attack them,
    then you're not going to find much sympathy here.
     
    HAZMAT RADIO, Jul 24, 2018
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  5. dschein94
    dschein94 Guest
    Will someone just lock this thing already? Obviously not getting anywhere here.
     
    dschein94, Jul 24, 2018
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  6. It has been the rules for a very long time, maybe they are just policing it better. No point was missed, you admitted the violation, you got punished. Refrain from your choice of language and do not rise to bait messages. Simple
     
    Njal the Blue, Jul 24, 2018
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  7. You admitted you swore, you lost your argument by admission.
     
    Njal the Blue, Jul 24, 2018
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  8. dschein94
    dschein94 Guest

    Problems with Criteria for Xbox Enforcement Part 2

    Why does everyone I talk to on here not understand the very reason I'm even wasting my time here?!?!?!? I said I was done but you people constantly make me come back and respond to your general I don't even know what. I don't know why you all seem to think
    that my "argument" here is that I shouldn't have been banned according to the rules that Microsoft has set down. I'm going to say this very slowly and clearly and I swear if one more ffing ambassador thinks that I don't know why I was banned I'm really going
    to be done. I. AM. PISSED. BECAUSE. OF. WHY. I. WAS. SUSPENDED. NOT. BECAUSE. I WAS. SUSPENDED. Now I literally cannot make that any more clearer so if you don't understand that, that's your own problem. My argument, condescending ambassador number 3, is
    that the Code of Conduct that Microsoft uses is very poorly written and would only be a good document in a utopia where people online are all nice, charming and friendly. The very fact that none of you have responded to this after all this talking and going
    back and forth in these **** talks we've been having has prompted my very sharp criticism of ambassadors on here as being controlled by their master in commander Microsoft. You all know that what I'm saying is right and I think that that's the very reason
    that none of you are responding directly to the points in my original post. Because you know that this is monitored by your overlords and if you speak badly about Microsoft they might revoke your title or something. Every single one of you has just preached
    the same thing over and over and over. He broke the rules, so he gets a punishment. Not a single one of you has even expressed the possibility that maybe, just maybe those rules are just wrong. So I'm going to give you all ONE. MORE. CHANCE. to respond
    directly to the points I expressed in my original post, and not assume that I don't know why I was suspended according to the current rules of our lord and savior Microsoft. Tell me exactly why you all think that these rules are beyond reproach and should
    never be changed and can't be taken advantage of by anyone using the service and that there is open communication between Microsoft and it's player base when these things happen.
     
    dschein94, Jul 24, 2018
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  9. dschein94
    dschein94 Guest
    Lol go ahead and keep reporting everything I say for no reason too. Seriously? smh....
     
    dschein94, Jul 24, 2018
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  10. ngocphi
    ngocphi Guest
    you don't get it after so many posts

    One you aren't allowed to harm others period that's harassment

    Anytime you attack others or bully

    Every service is required.to.regulate.it

    I suggest you read freedom.of.speech before you quote it

    You may not use it in anyway that harms others

    And yes that's been upheld.by every court in the world

    Game services are for.everyone not just you or.mature people

    You don't get to.decide who youncsn insult
     
    ngocphi, Jul 24, 2018
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  11. Arminator
    Arminator Guest
    In order to MAKE Xbox Live a charming and friendly community, they have set up the rules called the Code of Conduct to BE ABLE TO enforce these rules. They are rules that tell people what NOT to do for whatever reason. If you get
    harassed, report the person and let the Enforcement Team do their job to punish the person that harassed you. Because there EXISTS a rule that prohibits harassment, the Enforcement team is allowed to act on people that break these rules.

    If you swear back, then YOU are ALSO breaking the rules and will be punished for it.

    Without these rules, the person that harasses you, can't get punished.

    Let's make an analogy:

    Let's say you're driving your car peacefully, when a rowdy driver starts to tailgate you. You become agitated and step on the accelerator to get away from that guy, but as bad luck has it, you are being caught in a speed trap. You get a speeding ticket with
    a photo proof showing that you were driving the car, and that you were driving above the speed limit.

    The police won't care either when you tell them "But I was only going so fast, because that person behind me tailgated me".

    If you had obeyed the traffic laws, the person tailgating you would have been caught for not keeping a safety distance. But as the evidence shows, YOU were the one driving above the speed limit.

    The same is true for the Enforcement team.

    If you get harassed, then report the harassment, so the Enforcement Team can do their job and punish the person that did you wrong. As you can see for yourself, the Enforcement Team DOES act on reports and suspends people breaking the rules. So the other
    person gets suspended, and you aren't bothered by that person anymore.

    However, if you feel the need to take matters into your own hand, and breaking the rules in doing so, then it's not the fault of the rules.

    Or would you say "Traffic laws and speed limits are utopic and useless, because people speed anyways"? Or "We don't need a law that forbids stealing, because that robber that broke into my house and stole my plasma TV didn't care about that law".

    Without the law, the police couldn't punish the person that stole your TV. True, you would be able to just climb into your neighbors house and steal their TV, as there would be no law against that. But having no law against stealing would then lead to chaos,
    as everyone would simply take another person's stuff.

    Therefore, a law is in place to forbid people from stealing other people's stuff, so the police can arrest burglars that steal other people's stuff.

    It's the same with the Xbox Live Code of Conduct. It doesn't matter if you think the rule is stupid because people will still swear. The rules are there so the Enforcement Team can tell a person: "You violated the rules by doing this, and because we told
    you about the rules before, and you broke them, you can now be punished for doing so."

    The rules were shown to you when you signed up for Xbox Live, and you agreed to live by these rules when you joined Xbox Live.
     
    Arminator, Jul 24, 2018
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  12. bowski477
    bowski477 Guest
    If you continue to repost content that has been locked you will be banned from the forums.
     
    bowski477, Nov 3, 2018
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  13. HAZMAT RADIO Win User

    Problems with Criteria for Xbox Enforcement Part 2

    **** bank with all the **** money Microsoft is paying u **** **** ambassador ******!!!!
    That is exactly it! As an Ambassador, the paychecks are huge! I lose track of how many numbers there are before the decimal point...lemme check

    There might be a hint of sarcasm in that last statement.

    You're willing to do "research" by finding articles from other sites like fastcompany, theenquirer or kitguru but you don't do any research on the Ambassador program or what these forums are for. You're not doing your "cause" any justice by ranting here.
    It's users helping users here.

    I'm sorry that you don't understand the intent of the forums. I'm trying to point out that you are decreasing the value of your point the more that you rail against others here. And increase your position as one who's spiteful and demeaning.

    I wish you luck with your intent but I just don't thing you're going to get your point across.
  14. Smwutches Win User

    Problems with Criteria for Xbox Enforcement Part 2

    The recent updates, even the one in 2015, did not add profanity to the list of things that are against the rules. Profanity has always been on the list. Communication suspensions are not something new. It's not allowed because yes there are kids on the system,
    but there are also people who just find that kind of language offensive. If anything can be offensive, it's not allowed.
  15. Smwutches Win User

    Problems with Criteria for Xbox Enforcement Part 2

    The rules themselves have always been the same. I think what has changed is the fact that there are more people who are trying to bait people into violating them. But if you're not doing anything to violate the code in the first place, you have nothing to
    worry about.
  16. bowski477 Win User

    Problems with Criteria for Xbox Enforcement Part 2

    If you continue to repost content that has been locked you will be banned from the forums.
  17. Njal the Blue Win User

    Problems with Criteria for Xbox Enforcement Part 2

    The post would have been locked by a forum mod, not Xbox. Posts can be locked if they are already answered or if they violate the forums rules. Since this is a duplicate thread of a locked post, it'll end up locked as well.

    The rules on Live have been the same since it started and are the rules you agreed to when you signed up. If you're receiving suspension it's because you violated the code of conduct. If you run across other people who are, report them and block them.

    Once again you're missing the point that the other guy missed as well. I know this is the system now; this has not always been the system for as long as Xbox Live has been around. I know this because I've had Xbox live for over a decade and I've never
    changed the way I behave and I received my first suspension out of the blue 2 years ago. So tell me again how the rules are the same? What I'm saying is the system is broken and I'd like to start a discussion with other players who probably feel the same
    way so maybe Microsoft will see that and do something about it. Unlikely obviously but it's worth a shot. Doesn't help when the forum posts get locked within one day.
    It has been the rules for a very long time, maybe they are just policing it better. No point was missed, you admitted the violation, you got punished. Refrain from your choice of language and do not rise to bait messages. Simple
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