Premature Thread Locking over Enforcement Discussion

Discus and support Premature Thread Locking over Enforcement Discussion in XBoX Games and Apps to solve the problem; I recently tried to post about the enforcement policies of Microsoft in regards to the Xbox live service and an XBF mod decided to provide a terrible... Discussion in 'XBoX Games and Apps' started by Pyxlation, Jun 10, 2019.

  1. Pyxlation
    Pyxlation Guest

    Premature Thread Locking over Enforcement Discussion


    I recently tried to post about the enforcement policies of Microsoft in regards to the Xbox live service and an XBF mod decided to provide a terrible answer disregarding everything I asked and then locked the thread. I've noticed this trend a lot while reading
    over Enforcement related content on the threads. I'd like to see what others think and have a discussion about this. Here are some personal observations:

    Many people are looking for more information as to why they got banned because the enforcement service fails to provide accurate and detailed information.

    Retaliation reporting is real but Microsoft tends to ignore this, despite their own policy that is supposed to protect identity when reporting. This is not done. For example, when banned for a message sent to another user, that message is seen as "deleted
    content". The only person who sees that message is the one you sent it to, therefore that player could be the only one who reported you and caused the ban for sending that message. Thus, identity is not truly protected.

    Griefing - this in itself is huge and occurs all the time. Never have I seen a successful griefing ban occur.

    Overemphasizing on Communication - people are muted or banned for messages, voice, etc, but there are no proper guidelines for this. What does Xbox categorize as hate speech? What is abusive language? What is mature language?

    Games not following policy - Many games feature offensive and mature language. Are these not against Microsofts own policy? Why can I be banned for repeating a phrase used by a character in the games published in your own platform? Why are games rated 17+
    but users are restricted to rated E in their own language/interactions?

    Lack of Transparency is a serious issue and the enforcement page barely provides information useful to someone banned. There is also no support for those who suffer from 24 hr bans.

    No form of communication is given to contact the enforcement team other than the "appeal process". This appeal process is not available to everyone and can only be done once yearly. Therefore someone who may be targeted by the player based and wrongfully
    banned in a second occurrence cannot communicate this to the enforcement team. How is this fair? Microsofts own policies on enforcement claim that cases are reviewed and then bans are put in place, but it is also stated part of the process is automated. Therefore
    you can be banned by a non human. Also it's completing to the disgretion of the employee's interpretation of the policies in whether they ban or not. That doesn't seem very consistent or fair?

    Would love to know the thoughts of others who have suffered from what appears to be a hypocritical and failure of an enforcement department. This is a discussion post, so I expect mods to keep this open. Yet there is a trend of them locking any enforcement
    related content, likely because they are afraid of the negative exposure knowing how broken their "justice" system is.

    :)
     
    Pyxlation, Jun 10, 2019
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  2. Smwutches Win User

    Premature Thread Locking over Enforcement Discussion

    Threads regarding enforcement issues are locked fairly quickly because they tend to turn into toxic threads and repetitive answers. Plus, since the enforcement team do not use the forums, there is nothing else that can be done via the forums.

    It doesn't matter how a situation starts. If you respond in a way that violates the rules you agreed to when you signed up, you can be punished. Just report and block when someone else messages you in a way that violates the code. There is no need to respond.

    The case review system is not limited to once a year, but it is limited due to some types of enforcement and length. Since your suspension is only 24 hours long, a review is not available because the review would take longer than the suspension itself. So
    by the time the review is done, you would already be playing anyway.

    As you said yourself, there are already several other threads related to this topic, so I am going to lock this one as well.
  3. XBF Diego M Win User

    Xbox Gamerpic Enforcement

    Hi there,

    We will be locking this thread since Chris and Denis have both given the only answer to this question and there is nothing left to discuss regarding this enforcement action.

    Thank you.
  4. Obsessive Power Win User

    Next Victim of Antiquated Enforcement System

    The enforcement system isn't antiquated. Xbox Live has the same rules as pretty much all similar services provided by other companies. The Xbox Live enforcement teams don't issue permanent suspensions and console bans without good reason. It does not matter how much you've paid into the platform over the years.

    This is a community forum, while there are Xbox employee's present here, they don't deal with enforcement policy. Most of us are just gamers.

    As enforcement discussions do not end well, I will be locking this this thread.
  5. Mister Ohnaka Win User

    Xbox Live child account does not allow purchasing of music/videos in Windows 8 Xbox apps

    Hey folks. This thread is over a year old, therefore I am going to go ahead and lock it up. If you would like to continue this discussion, please start your own thread.
  6. Smwutches Win User

    Xbox Magnifier

    Since there have already been several threads opened on the same topic over the past few days, I'm going to lock this. Please feel free to continue the discussion there.
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