No 4K without HDR (xbox one x)

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  1. 7splashy7
    7splashy7 Guest

    No 4K without HDR (xbox one x)


    Hi so everytime i enable hdr and 4k in my xbox display settings it says my tv completely supports 4k.

    However when i disable HDR it says my tv does not support any 4k or hdr features.

    PLEASE HELP as i would love to play certain games without hdr due to input lag being a bummer.

    Thanks in advance for any replies

    :)
     
    7splashy7, Aug 15, 2018
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  2. 4k tv

    Using an Xbox One X, yes for sure yes you can still play games in 4k without the HDR. With the Xbox One S you can upscale to 4K without HDR.
     
    ONEEYEDKILLAh, Aug 15, 2018
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  3. Thefvr14
    Thefvr14 Guest
    4k movie

    When playing a 4k blu-ray, my xbox one x is dropping to 1080 p. I can game at 4k without problem. My TV is 4k but does not have HDR. How can I get my movies to play at the full 4k resolution.

    TV is Samsung uhd8550 4k without hdr

    thanks
     
    Thefvr14, Aug 15, 2018
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  4. ngocphi
    ngocphi Guest

    No 4K without HDR (xbox one x)

    you need hdr for 4k output

    I don't think you fully understand

    Uhd and hdr are required for 4k output

    Unless you have an xbox one s not a x

    You can't play in 4k

    4k is only for.movies or streaming sources which require both uhd and hdr

    But.xbox.one x will do 4k gaming
     
    ngocphi, Aug 15, 2018
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  5. 7splashy7
    7splashy7 Guest
    Yes i have hdr for the 4k output but id rather play games without hdr but still include 4k is there any ways or means to do so
     
    7splashy7, Aug 16, 2018
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  6. you need hdr for 4k output

    Actually, you don't.

    Uhd and hdr are required for 4k output

    You need UHD, in the sense that you need the TV to support 3840 x 2160 resolution, but you don't need HDR enabled to reach 4K. UHD 4K is the amount of screen resolution available measured in pixels, HDR is the ability of the TV or monitor to display more
    natural colours.

    Note that the Xbox One S can do HDR in games that support such a feature, but regardless of what resolution you set, all games max out at 1080P internally. If the display is 4K, it will remain in 4K, but games will only be upscaled. Only the Xbox One X
    can play Enhanced titles in 4K natively.

    You should be able to disable HDR, how you disable it depends entirely on your TV. Disabling HDR via the TV settings should not disable 4K screen resolution. Indeed, some Xbox One games do not support HDR, Fallout 4 on the One X can play in 4K for instance,
    but it does not support (or indeed have an option for) HDR.

    On my Sony Bravia Android based TV, I had to go to the main settings and enable HDR functionality. Even then, I had to set the HDR setting to 'Auto' on the HDMI port I have my console connected to. If you have HDR set to 'On' all of the time, non HDR games
    will display the wrong colours, look oversaturated. With 'Auto' enabled, HDR will only operate when it detects an HDR supported game. This may not be a feature of your display however.

    What make and model is your TV?
     
    Obsessive Power, Aug 16, 2018
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  7. On the Xbox One S/X: HDR requires 4K, but 4K does not require HDR.

    Are you disabling HDR through your TV menu, or the Xbox display settings? If you're disabling HDR through the TV menu, this may be toggling your HDMI port from version 2.0 to 1.4. 4K resolution is not supported on Xbox if it is plugged into an HDMI port
    running version 1.4 specs, and will drive 1080p/SDR at most. If you disable HDR through the Xbox display settings (found in advanced settings menu), it should simply be running 4K without HDR from there.

    If input lag is a huge concern, check if your TV has a "Game Mode," probably located somewhere in the TV's picture settings. This disables some (likely subtle) image post-processing features on the TV to reduce input lag.
     
    Internet Expert, Aug 16, 2018
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  8. No 4K without HDR (xbox one x)

    i have an older 4K tv with UHD, and when i set it to 10 bit with UHD on, i can clearly see the vibrancy and detail.

    however, on the 4K test it shows the TV does not support movies and games at HDR 10, but supports 4K gaming @ 60Hz

    theres other TVs which do show HDR 10 working with movies and games; however cheaper models will not give a full range and may just be a slight enhancement.

    i would wait till 4KTVs standardize 10 Bit HDR and Dolby atmos, as theres very few TVs on the market now which truly show the potential of HDR.
     
    jangs-277A78D8-79CE-44B9-8FDE-632192AFD46E, Nov 3, 2018
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  9. ONEEYEDKILLAh Win User

    4k tv

    Using an Xbox One X, yes for sure yes you can still play games in 4k without the HDR. With the Xbox One S you can upscale to 4K without HDR.
  10. Lakn Win User

    Epson 5040UB : Your TV setup doesn't support HDR10 for gaming. Games won't be shown in HDR

    Yep. I think there will be a lot of dissapointed people when they find out their 4K HDR TV won't play Xbox One 4K games because they don't have a full 18Gig HDMI pipe.

    The requirement from the X to have 4K @60 and 30 Bits just to play a 4K game seems off. I can see where the bandwidth requirement would be there for 4K @60 with HDR, but I'd like to play the game in either 4K without HDR or 1080P with HDR but the current
    setup on the X (and S) will not let you do this.

    Odd thing is that I played Horizons:Zero Dawn on my PS4 Pro and the first thing it did was tell me I could have either 4K or HDR but not both. I chose HDR and the game looks fantastic. I can't believe the XBOX One X won't do this.

    So, if you have a display that does 4K@ 24 with HDR then the XBOX One X is just a nice game machine that will play videos in HDR for you but none of the UHD features are available to you for gaming.

    Microsoft, surely you can change this and allow HDR in 1080P?
  11. ngocphi Win User

    No 4K without HDR (xbox one x)

    you need hdr for 4k output

    I don't think you fully understand

    Uhd and hdr are required for 4k output

    Unless you have an xbox one s not a x

    You can't play in 4k

    4k is only for.movies or streaming sources which require both uhd and hdr

    But.xbox.one x will do 4k gaming
  12. FreakRoach Win User

    Will xbox one support 1080p HDR like PS4 does?

    1080p with HDR does work on Xbox One S and X. However, you do not have any control over choosing the resolution i.e. you can say you want to play a 4K game as 1080p.

    Even before Xbox One X came out you could still play HDR games on Xbox One S without 4K such as Forza Horizon 3, Gears of War 4, Scalebound etc.
  13. Lakn Win User

    Xbox One X HDR in 1080p

    You'll be able to set the output of the Xbox One X to 1080p, and if a game supports HDR then the console will use it, I mean the Xbox One S supports HDR, so no reason why the Xbox One X would only allow it at 4K.
    Thanks, I hope that is the case. The S will not allow HDR unless output is set to 4K. Not to tout the PS4 Pro but it told me my projector would not support HDR in 4K but offered up "2k HDR" as an option. I would hope the X was as elegant.
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