New Xbox One(s) on the Way?

im looking to get an alienware x51 for NZ $2700 comes with 6th gen intel core i7 6700 quad core cpu with something like 3.4ghz with turno boost to 4ghz 16gb ddr4 2133mhz ram and 4gb gtx 970 GPU. The gtx 970 has a higher badwidth over 200gb/sec than even
ps4. i want to buy an affordable pc which can play planet coaster on high settings 1080p and from my research it can do it. its has fast gddr5 ram faster bandwidth than ps4 and to even use 3.5gb of the 4gb gtx 970 ram youd need to play a high end game at like
4k ultra settings.

the alienware x51 suits my needs and may get it this year as i want to play the sims 4 cities skylines and planet coaster on 1080p high settings and get good frame rate like 40+ which gtx 970 4gb GPU will conquer.

 

"In fact, record sales and millions of subscriptions to XBL sealed their dominance for the last gen."

Um, dominance? How do you figure that when both PS3 and Wii outsold the 360? The 360 definitely did well, but it didn't "dominate" anything.

 

Two new consoles?

One will definitely be the slim but as for the other an upgraded console would make a lot of people a bit annoyed as were only 3 years into this gen

 

CodeCat I would say that they certainly did a horrible job. But I know that some of them where not fully on board with everything but it can be tough when the ones above you are pushing an idea for money making reasons. If they are thinking it will be
more profitable it can be tough to influence a course change. Obviously MS is a very huge and successful company but they were making some terrible decisions in a few categories.

As for the 360 dominating, it most certainly did. Considering no presence at all in Japan and we can see how well it was doing. Given that the 360 regularly outsold PS3 (everywhere but Japan) it was really dominating. It must be noted that the PS brand
has a larger fan base and that the 360 did so well more due to early price than anything. That was huge and allowed the 360 to do so well. It is also part of the reason the PS4 is doing so well. I know many myself that were PS gamers that went 360 due to
considerable cost difference at the time and they just never looked back. Ended up picking up PS3 later or not at all.

Wii, well, that is a special case. Seems like everyone had a Wii. And then either a 360 or PS3 to go with it. Then you had the grandma/grandpa bunch that got them for the grandkids. And the super casual that picked one up. So it was a special market
case. PS3 and 360 where outside a sizable portion of that market. And the One and PS4 will not get that market either. WiiU itself failed to keep those buyers engaged.

I really hope they do revise the consoles. A slim would be fine. Even a slim that is cheaper due to no drive. I have ones with drives but I would not mind having a cheaper model that has no Blu-ray drive built in as well. I am guessing they would not
do that but I do know people that would jump at that since they are all digital. 4k streaming support, if that is not there yet, is something I know some would want. And I guess they could update the wireless card or something.

 

"And the super casual" - Guerrero Ultimo

OMGoth... There are super casuals?

 

"As for the 360 dominating, it most certainly did. Considering no presence at all in Japan and we can see how well it was doing. Given that the 360 regularly outsold PS3 (everywhere but Japan) it was really dominating."

Yet the PS3 and Wii still outsold the 360 overall. If you're just going to ignore an entire country, then at least be fair about it and don't count MS's US sales. Then where would they be?

Besides that, I'll never really trust the 360 stats considering the fact that they include RROD replacements. It's easy to outsell the competition if your customers receive at least one or two replacements because your product keeps breaking.

 

I will upgrade in a flash which ever console comes out first with a 4k drive and 2160p output

 

Just my 02, but, dominance only means something to those who are interested in knowing the dominant platform. I've bought my Xboxes (every one since the OG) for many reasons. Halo: CE, product familiarity, only having time/budget to see the value of owning one
console... notice the one thing I haven't mentioned? Dominance... because it doesn't matter to me. If I only bought my console(s) for bragging rights to owning a 'dominant' platform, then I'd care... and I'd have a silly reason for buying a console.

I know what I like and what I want from... any product really... the last thing I think about is if it's the best selling.

I've been in business for myself and I can tell you that at the end of the day, once again, dominance was the last thing I worried about. The bottom line was to keep up with and hopefully exceed sales projections and satisfy the profit margin. Outselling
the competition yields little more than bragging rights and a warm, fuzzy feeling.

Of course it's a nice thing to know when your product is the best selling, in a feel good kind of way, and the story is a bit different if one product is so far superior to another that it can't help but be the dominant seller, but that's not the case here.

Another note, from a different perspective. Is it really that "easy" to outsell the competition if your product keeps breaking? Seems to me it would be harder. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... considering that old saying, I'd say it'd be increasingly
harder to outsell your own profit margin, let alone the competition. I know the reason I replaced a few 360's that failed on me. I could've just as easily put that money into another platform, dumped Xbox and just moved on. But I didn't. That's because I felt
that my console (dominant or not) gave me enough enjoyment and entertainment to be worth replacing.

 

That's my boy Blue! Haha. I think what you said speaks for a lot of us here. Including me.

 

"Another note, from a different perspective. Is it really that "easy" to outsell the competition if your product keeps breaking? Seems to me it would be harder. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... "

You fail to mention the fact that many of those consoles were replaced under warranty, so people didn't have to buy a new one. Those were still counted as" sales" though. Besides that, most people are not going to switch to the competition if their current
console dies. If they've invested significant money in games and accessories, then they're not just going to start over again from scratch. Yes, a few people would, but they would be in the vast minority. Much cheaper and easier all around just to stick with
what you already had.

 

"Those were still counted as" sales" though."

Wrong.

How does Microsoft report a $1.+ Billion loss on the 360 and count that as sales? They don't.

Get your facts straight. Or please provide a credible link to your statement.

 

I completely disbelieve the very idea that a console sent out as a replacement for a defective unit would be counted as a 'sale'. It's a loss... not a sale... I'm probably not even close to having the business savvy that MS does and I know that.

 

I guess that depends on who you ask. Only MS really knows for sure, so it's not worth debating. Either way, my original point still stands. MS has never "dominated" the console market.

 

As does my original point. Dominance is nice and all, but it has never once swayed my decision to buy or keep buying a product. Knowledge of whether or not I'm buying a "dominant" product does little more than make me feel good and maybe give me a bit of
a confidence boost when I purchase it.

 

Same here. I've owned practically every console since the NES. I even own a Wii U (mostly just for the Zelda HD remakes), so obviously I couldn't care less about popularity. I just don't understand how people can try to make comments saying the 360 "dominated"
anything when it was actually the 3rd best selling console of last gen. I'm not saying it didn't do well by any means, but it definitely didn't dominate anything either.