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  1. Randver
    Randver Guest

    New XBox One must become far more powerful...


    they will HAVE to make another console or someone else will.

    This is what I've been saying all along. Microsoft doesn't need to ever make another console and take the hardware loss simply to be a game distributor.

    I think the writing is already on the wall that the Xbox brand will be the gaming arm of Windows 10 rather than a console, Microsoft has even said that.

    www.pcgamer.com/phil-spencer-interview-we-ignored-what-was-going-on-with-windows-to-launch-xbox


    You'll have a small segment of the Xbox community that will whine because they think having different hardware will somehow impact their gaming experience but from a business perspective it's a smart move for Microsoft.
     
    Randver, Jul 27, 2015
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  2. When the Xbox One came out and they said it will only have a eight core processor,I was kinda shocked because if you see how todays gaming market is booming with better grapical content each day it doesnt makes sence. Some computers today have twelve cores
    or even more. in the future the twelve core would only make sense. Eight cores is only a little jump compared to what they could have produced,to me eight cores is a little behind.
     
    StealthyJRich, Jul 27, 2015
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  3. J.R.G.
    J.R.G. Guest
    @Randver It is becoming quite clear that Microsoft is molding the X Box One into a Steam Machine.

    So someone playing a F.P.S. on a P.C. struggling at 30fps wouldn't have a disadvantage over someone on a high-end machine running the game at 90fps? ;-) Being a smart move for M.S. remains to be seen.

    Peace, J.R.
     
    J.R.G., Jul 27, 2015
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  4. Randver
    Randver Guest

    New XBox One must become far more powerful...

    @D33dles

    So someone playing a F.P.S. on a P.C. struggling at 30fps wouldn't have a disadvantage over someone on a high-end machine running the game at 90fps? ;-)

    30 and 90 wouldn't make a difference if the 30 was consistent. 15 and 90 would be another story but no PC gamer would be in that position, you lower your settings until you get a consistent frame rate.

    The only thing the high end guys have over the low end ones is how pretty the game looks. I think that is going to be what upsets the console crowd. Knowing that Halo 5 looks better for someone who spent more money on their hardware will bring on the whining.
     
    Randver, Jul 27, 2015
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  5. J.R.G.
    J.R.G. Guest
    And consistency is the problem. Even if they locked a game at 30fps, a lower spec build would dip.

    As I still play 8-bit games occasionally, graphics wouldn't be my concern. Frame rate, pop-in, draw distance, etc., would be mine.

    Peace, J.R.
     
    J.R.G., Jul 27, 2015
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  6. DeadFall526
    DeadFall526 Guest
    If they did that I would be done entirely with consoles. As it is I am already dismayed by the almost criminal way they do business, and doing this after we all bought one already would be such a kick to the face and there is only one way to respond to that.
     
    DeadFall526, Jul 27, 2015
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  7. Wanorios
    Wanorios Guest
    if they do that, Sony will have a monopoly over console business. even now with the Xbox one they are dominating the market with there powerful ps4, so imagine if all xbox games come to pc, xbox will just become an application
     
    Wanorios, Aug 8, 2015
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  8. New XBox One must become far more powerful...

    "xbox will just become an application" In a way that seems to be MS's plan for Xbox anyway...
     
    Seriously Scott, Aug 8, 2015
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  9. HKvalhe
    HKvalhe Guest
    Only time will tell. Thank you all for feedback New XBox One must become far more powerful... :)
     
    HKvalhe, Aug 27, 2015
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  10. jaihawk
    jaihawk Guest
    "The human eye struggles distinguishing the difference between 900p or 1080p when shown on a full HDTV under 50 inches. "

    Ya I know this post is old. What kind of point is that making? People still trying to argue against 1080p seriously crack me up. That's like saying my stomach has a hard time telling the difference between a 20 oz prime rib vs. a 16 oz prime rib. 900p isn't
    much different than 720p either, so why not choose that? lol.
     
    jaihawk, Nov 17, 2015
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  11. J.R.G.
    J.R.G. Guest
    Odd that you should use this particular scenario. Just recently took my girlfriend out to the LongHorn for her birthday; she ordered the Pecan Chicken while I debated between the 16 ounce or 20 prime rib. Long story short, decided on the 16 oz, though by
    the end kind of wished I would have rolled with the 20.

    Not on topic, nor is my response gaming related...just love a good prime rib. ;-)

    Peace, J.R.
     
    J.R.G., Nov 17, 2015
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  12. Seems everything went silent about an X1 Slim, or revamped hardware.

    Perhaps at E3 2016 Spencer will drop another bombshell like he did with BC?
     
    ElectroFlying, Oct 31, 2018
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  13. Randver Win User

    New XBox One must become far more powerful...

    @D33dles

    So someone playing a F.P.S. on a P.C. struggling at 30fps wouldn't have a disadvantage over someone on a high-end machine running the game at 90fps? ;-)

    30 and 90 wouldn't make a difference if the 30 was consistent. 15 and 90 would be another story but no PC gamer would be in that position, you lower your settings until you get a consistent frame rate.

    The only thing the high end guys have over the low end ones is how pretty the game looks. I think that is going to be what upsets the console crowd. Knowing that Halo 5 looks better for someone who spent more money on their hardware will bring on the whining.
  14. J.R.G. Win User

    New XBox One must become far more powerful...

    @Randver It is becoming quite clear that Microsoft is molding the X Box One into a Steam Machine.

    You'll have a small segment of the Xbox community that will whine because they think having different hardware will somehow impact their gaming experience but from a business perspective it's a smart move for Microsoft.
    So someone playing a F.P.S. on a P.C. struggling at 30fps wouldn't have a disadvantage over someone on a high-end machine running the game at 90fps? ;-) Being a smart move for M.S. remains to be seen.

    Peace, J.R.
  15. Doctor3D Win User

    New XBox One must become far more powerful...

    The moment NVIDIA and AMD start releasing mid-range 4k gaming GPUs - the mainstream will have began. It moves really fast - one of the first 4k monitors PC games were buying in 2013 was 3,500 NOW you can buy one for 500 bucks. In less than two years the
    price for the monitor went down by 3,000.

    Throughout next year 4K GPUs will go from enthusiast level to high-end and likely Q4 that year or Q1 the next, we will start seeing mainstream mid-range GPUs priced under $300 for 4k gaming.

    Obviously, just a speculation, but I'd say it's a fairly accurate one. I believe 4K gaming will be standard in 2017. I believe it's very likely new consoles will need to be made in 2018 (5 year cycle) due to the display devices in most people's homes demanding
    it and the gamer-crowd itself becoming used to 4k as a standard.

    I just can't imagine an Xbox One or PS4 lasting nearly as long as the Xbox 360 and PS3 did due to the type of displays that will be used by that time. The image quality would just not be acceptable.
  16. Doctor3D Win User

    New XBox One must become far more powerful...

    Not PC gaming. If you pay attention, you'll see that NVIDIA and AMD are pushing 4K video gaming. I don't believe it's currently possible to offer a cost-efficient or even technically advanced enough console that could satisfy 4K gaming. But, tech moves
    fast, give it a year after most PC core games have adopted 4K gaming - the hardware prices and the silicon for that will then start to become more mainstream and economical. At that point, I believe a new console will be made - there will be a demand for it.
    Few people will be happy when they bring their shiny 4k TV home and blow up a 720p call of duty on it...they won't buy the next one...or the next..and when that starts to happen...they will HAVE to make another console or someone else will.
  17. Doctor3D Win User

    New XBox One must become far more powerful...

    Yeah, i'm just saying the life cyle of these consoles will very likely be a lot shorter than the 360 was. Again, when 4k becomes standard - I just cannot believe the consumers would be happy playing 720p video game images blown all the way up to 4k. Developers
    won't like that either - it ruins the art.

    This is going to be a weird but hopefully short-lived era.
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