New XBox One must become far more powerful...

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    I understand your point of Nxt, people do own console precisely because they are static hardware.

    However I also think that the modular system isn't that far into the future. Microsoft are taking a similar stance with Windows and I could see them taking the same approach with a future console.

    Your base system would be the same but want some extra RAM for a smoother frame-rate, open a slot and plug in the adaptor.
     
    NonSportsGirl, May 9, 2015
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  2. NxtDoc1851
    NxtDoc1851 Guest
    It does seem that is the way we are headed Vaynel. But I wonder how that would effect the industry? Perhaps some PC gamers make a transition? Would that push some regular home console ganers away?

    It is an interesting thought. I just can't imagine that happening
     
    NxtDoc1851, May 9, 2015
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  3. HKvalhe
    HKvalhe Guest
    Many interesting feedback New XBox One must become far more powerful... :) The good news however is that XBox One has undergone many updates and improvements from them, so XBox One has turnt out to become much better than when it was first released New XBox One must become far more powerful... :)
     
    HKvalhe, Jul 26, 2015
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    I think that a proper method by which to help increase that "bandwidth" so to speak would be for a RAM upgrade. PC and laptops offer this upgrade nd added additional RAM to increase BUFFER load is always a smart idea and practical.

    If MICRO offered a $50-100 charge for RAM increase/install; say maybe 4-8 GB more by sending our units in or @ certified local tech shops, I think most owners would jump at the chance. I know I would immediately take that offer w/out question.

    A total of 12-16 GB ddr3 ram would help stabilize any probabilities with processing bottlenecks in the xbox one.
     
    SILVERSCORPION3, Jul 26, 2015
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  5. If Microsoft expected me to turn around and pay $100 for 8GB of ram, they can jog on haha.

    "I know I would immediately take that offer w/out question." Why? do you think slapping more ram in would suddenly fix all of the problems? i doubt it. While your at it, why not let us stick in our own graphics cards, swap the processor... New XBox One must become far more powerful... ;)

    I feel it's just down to MS to properly optimize it, if you look at specs alone the Xbox One isn't a pushover, MS just need to better prioritize it's resources.
     
    Seriously Scott, Jul 27, 2015
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    Hello everyone New XBox One must become far more powerful... :)

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    It would be easy to put the current best / most powerful hardware into a game console, but they have to make a profit too.

    The prices of game consoles would skyrocket if only the best / most powerful hardware was used.

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    Have a nice day or afternoon or night everyone New XBox One must become far more powerful... :)

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    Lei Fang DOAX3, Jul 27, 2015
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  7. John Dowding
    John Dowding Guest
    Hey Silverscorpion what exactly are you basing your suggestion on? Something you heard on the internet? You don't seem to have played any xbox One games so why the concern with its performance? As an owner since day one I havnt had any performance
    concerns nor do I anticipate having any. MS don't need to do anything its down to game devs to get the performance out of it. I thought all this claptrap died about twelve months ago....
     
    John Dowding, Jul 27, 2015
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  8. Doctor3D
    Doctor3D Guest

    New XBox One must become far more powerful...

    Very soon, you won't be able to even find a 1080p TV in a store. It is inevitable that all of the TVs in the majority of people's homes will slowly, but surely start becoming predominately 2k/4k TVs.

    Has anyone seen an Xbox One game on a 4K tv? I can't imagine it would look very good to most people. (Blurry, jagged, really soft, no vibrancy) I would bet (But don't know) that it looks even worse on the PS4. That's one thing MS has always been the best
    at since Xbox - they have the best scaling. An identical 720p game on Xbox 360 and PS3 on a 1080p TV ALWAYS looks better on the 360 due to the scaling techniques MS employ.

    In the upcoming year or two - It'll be interesting to see how there may be cases where a game running at 900p on the Xbox One and 1080p on the PS4 - STILL looks better on the Xbox One on 4K tvs due to their scaling.

    That's one thing I never got about Sony - they make TV's for christ's sake! A PS2 looks absolutely terrible on a HDTV - even with high quality component cables and calibrated SONY set - yet a XBOX and Gamecube from that era are still easy enough on the eyes
    to play.

    Due to the inevitable nature of 4k coming to the home market - I just can't see these consoles lasting as long as the 360 and PS3 did. People won't be happy playing blowing up 720p-1080p game images that are blurry, jagged and don't look anything like the
    developer envisioned.
     
    Doctor3D, Jul 27, 2015
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    Hello everyone New XBox One must become far more powerful... :)

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    Look at this from a game console developers prespective

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    (1) It cost $1000 produce one game game console because it only uses the best / most powerful hardware.

    (2) Repeat this process a million times.

    (3) This adds up to a $1,000,000,000 production cost

    (5) This console will not be sold at $500 because that is a $500 lost per console sold

    (6) I am not going to calculate how much the MSRP of this game console is going to be, but it is going to be really expensive!

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    Have a nice day or afternoon or night everyone New XBox One must become far more powerful... :)

    ..........
     
    Lei Fang DOAX3, Jul 27, 2015
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  10. Doctor3D
    Doctor3D Guest
    Yeah, i'm just saying the life cyle of these consoles will very likely be a lot shorter than the 360 was. Again, when 4k becomes standard - I just cannot believe the consumers would be happy playing 720p video game images blown all the way up to 4k. Developers
    won't like that either - it ruins the art.

    This is going to be a weird but hopefully short-lived era.
     
    Doctor3D, Jul 27, 2015
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  11. Oh 4k TV's are gaining popularity for sure, but gaming? gaming is still a long way from 4k...
     
    Seriously Scott, Jul 27, 2015
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  12. Doctor3D
    Doctor3D Guest
    Not PC gaming. If you pay attention, you'll see that NVIDIA and AMD are pushing 4K video gaming. I don't believe it's currently possible to offer a cost-efficient or even technically advanced enough console that could satisfy 4K gaming. But, tech moves
    fast, give it a year after most PC core games have adopted 4K gaming - the hardware prices and the silicon for that will then start to become more mainstream and economical. At that point, I believe a new console will be made - there will be a demand for it.
    Few people will be happy when they bring their shiny 4k TV home and blow up a 720p call of duty on it...they won't buy the next one...or the next..and when that starts to happen...they will HAVE to make another console or someone else will.
     
    Doctor3D, Jul 27, 2015
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    People wont by the next COD hahahaha, kids will ALWAYS buy Call of Duty. New XBox One must become far more powerful... ;)

    When i say gaming is a long way from 4k i meant until it's the standard, few people are willing to spend the money for a console, on a GPU alone....
     
    Seriously Scott, Jul 27, 2015
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  14. Doctor3D
    Doctor3D Guest
    The moment NVIDIA and AMD start releasing mid-range 4k gaming GPUs - the mainstream will have began. It moves really fast - one of the first 4k monitors PC games were buying in 2013 was 3,500 NOW you can buy one for 500 bucks. In less than two years the
    price for the monitor went down by 3,000.

    Throughout next year 4K GPUs will go from enthusiast level to high-end and likely Q4 that year or Q1 the next, we will start seeing mainstream mid-range GPUs priced under $300 for 4k gaming.

    Obviously, just a speculation, but I'd say it's a fairly accurate one. I believe 4K gaming will be standard in 2017. I believe it's very likely new consoles will need to be made in 2018 (5 year cycle) due to the display devices in most people's homes demanding
    it and the gamer-crowd itself becoming used to 4k as a standard.

    I just can't imagine an Xbox One or PS4 lasting nearly as long as the Xbox 360 and PS3 did due to the type of displays that will be used by that time. The image quality would just not be acceptable.
     
    Doctor3D, Jul 27, 2015
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  15. Soooo the current favorite choice for 4k gaming (at least last i read) was the GTX 980 TI, that card cost's a cool £400 and even then basically every site (PC gamer etc) notes you'll need two to get 60fps! £800 on just the cards...

    Ouch New XBox One must become far more powerful... :(

    I could see it gaining popularity among pc gamers in the next few years, consoles though? the Xbox One still runs some games at 900p upscaled, i think it'll be a while until we see a true 4k gaming console that isn't terrifyingly expensive haha New XBox One must become far more powerful... ;)
     
    Seriously Scott, Jul 27, 2015
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