Major Problems with Criteria for Xbox Live Enforcement

Discus and support Major Problems with Criteria for Xbox Live Enforcement in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; I'm here to talk about some serious problems that I've seen recently in how Microsoft uses their enforcement actions against their player base. I've... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by dschein94, Jul 22, 2018.

  1. dschein94
    dschein94 Guest

    Major Problems with Criteria for Xbox Live Enforcement


    I'm here to talk about some serious problems that I've seen recently in how Microsoft uses their enforcement actions against their player base. I've just received my third enforcement action for communications. I have never harassed anyone on Xbox live
    or any online gaming environment that I have engaged in for my entire life of online gaming, going back well over a decade at this point. I have never trolled anyone in a game that would warrant enforcement action on the part of Microsoft in my own opinion
    at least and in general I've never done anything in online gaming that I think would qualify as a justifiable means for a communication suspension or one of any kind for that matter.

    What I have done is be a competitive gamer and respond occasionally to messages sent to me by people who do deserve some sort of punishment for their conduct. These are the trolls, the ragers, the teamkillers, etc. The people who should not be allowed
    to exist in the same environment as competitive and overall friendly gamers and the same people who these enforcement actions should be targeted at but they are not. Even in these, I'll be generous by calling them "conversations", I didn't insult the other
    player no matter how much they might insult me, I never harassed them after the conversation had ended by spamming their account with messages or having my friends do it or something. Usually the incident would end with me blocking the other person and moving
    on.

    What seems to be the issue here is my choice of words in these "conversations." I tend to swear a lot when in non-professional company. I don't think it's a problem and I've been doing it my entire online gaming life without incident. Last year I received
    my first communications suspension, meaning messages, party and game chat, etc., for use of "inappropriate communications". From what I understand, and I'll get to later why I don't understand it all, if a message of yours gets reported by the, in my case
    usually, absolute waste of human filth that messaged me in the first place to troll me, insult my play style or whatever it is that crosses their mind at that point in time, who would love to harm my account in some way because they probably get off on it
    or something. Someone who would love to see your account get hurt in some way has the power to make that happen if I let lose a single profanity. All of this, in a supposedly relaxed, online gaming community which has historically been a place where people
    defend themselves with words when challenged, often by using profanity. Who in the **** thought that was a good idea at Microsoft?!?!?

    You're telling me, that in an online gaming environment where people swear at each other all the time, you're now going to regulate this act by suspending anyone who uses profanity, which is pretty much everyone who plays online games, on a first offense,
    non-harassing basis, on a reporting system that is controlled by someone who wants to see your account damaged? Does anyone at Microsoft really think that people won't take advantage of this? You must suspend thousands of accounts a week if not every few
    days with this system!!!! You'd be better off just disabling the messaging system altogether because it is incredibly rare for players to message each other with positive feedback in online gaming and that is a fact that everybody who plays knows.

    This raises the question of why Microsoft/Xbox is even regulating speech in general on their platform. Unfortunately I do believe it may be politically motivated, when their questionnaire for even submitting a review of your enforcement has questions involving
    the use of hate speech, gender identity and speech that might be deemed offensive by others. It is not the responsibility of the service provider to regulate what their players will see or hear from other players while using their service. Their job should
    be to provide that service and update and improve it regularly to make the experience of their players as good as possible. The only thing that they should regulate on their service is the use of hacking and trolling by players in game. They should completely
    stay away from communications between players. This does not negatively affect the game because Xbox Live has the option to block players from messaging you or mute them from talking to you. It does negatively affect the game when Xbox Enforcement decides
    to get involved in personal discussions between players that do not qualify as harassment by any definition when one player decides to report the other for use of profane language, that player who usually has an axe to grind with the other player for reasons
    I discussed above.

    For those who think that Microsoft has to censor its players because perhaps there are younger players on the site to hear this content, that is again not the responsibility of the service to cater specifically to a younger audience because their parents
    might complain. It is the responsibility of those parents to not allow their kids to be exposed to an environment that has that content if they are against it especially in games that are rated Teen or Mature.

    As well as the obvious issues I have with the apparent social justice warrior attitudes that Microsoft Enforcement has adopted recently, they have some serious practical issues with this "service" as well. As I mentioned earlier, they do not provide the
    specific message that they suspended your account for. They simply provide a blanket statement such as "inappropriate communications" or something else. So you will not know what message or messages that their "service" deemed worthy of suspension. If you
    feel that your suspension was unwarranted, which it usually is, you can choose to appeal that suspension, by answering a questionnaire that reminds me of having to write lines in early school years when the kid did something wrong. Oh, and on top of that,
    you have to answer every question correctly to even submit your appeal. On top of all of this, you cannot directly contact the enforcement team to speak to someone about your suspension. Reasons for this should be obvious but it's still very irritating to
    not be able to talk to anyone about the extremely vague reasons behind your suspension. Not even a robot.

    In general, there are some serious practical and philosophical problems with Microsoft's Enforcement conditions. They should not be censoring the speech of their players and punishing those who do something so small as swearing in a message, they should
    not be regulating communication at all because players have the ability to block other players from communicating with them, and they should reconsider the practicalities behind their system involving communication between the players and the administrators,
    especially considering this service is not free.

    :)
     
    dschein94, Jul 22, 2018
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    Problems with Criteria for Xbox Enforcement Part 2

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    bowski477, Jul 22, 2018
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    It has been the rules for a very long time, maybe they are just policing it better. No point was missed, you admitted the violation, you got punished. Refrain from your choice of language and do not rise to bait messages. Simple
     
    Njal the Blue, Jul 22, 2018
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    You swore in your communications, that is a violation of the code of conduct. Yes it is the responsibility of Microsoft to police its live service and you agreed to the rules when you signed up. Live is certified as E for everyone and therefore suspensions
    can be handed out. Context in game play is one thing, where the odd swear word can come out amongst more mature players but in a message they are more aggressive, threatening. Simply put, don't swear and cus, you won't get a suspension.
     
    Njal the Blue, Jul 22, 2018
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  5. Njal the Blue Win User

    Major Problems with Criteria for Xbox Live Enforcement

    You swore in your communications, that is a violation of the code of conduct. Yes it is the responsibility of Microsoft to police its live service and you agreed to the rules when you signed up. Live is certified as E for everyone and therefore suspensions
    can be handed out. Context in game play is one thing, where the odd swear word can come out amongst more mature players but in a message they are more aggressive, threatening. Simply put, don't swear and cus, you won't get a suspension.
  6. HAZMAT RADIO Win User

    Problems with Criteria for Xbox Enforcement Part 2

    **** bank with all the **** money Microsoft is paying u **** **** ambassador ******!!!!
    That is exactly it! As an Ambassador, the paychecks are huge! I lose track of how many numbers there are before the decimal point...lemme check

    There might be a hint of sarcasm in that last statement.

    You're willing to do "research" by finding articles from other sites like fastcompany, theenquirer or kitguru but you don't do any research on the Ambassador program or what these forums are for. You're not doing your "cause" any justice by ranting here.
    It's users helping users here.

    I'm sorry that you don't understand the intent of the forums. I'm trying to point out that you are decreasing the value of your point the more that you rail against others here. And increase your position as one who's spiteful and demeaning.

    I wish you luck with your intent but I just don't thing you're going to get your point across.
  7. Smwutches Win User

    Problems with Criteria for Xbox Enforcement Part 2

    The recent updates, even the one in 2015, did not add profanity to the list of things that are against the rules. Profanity has always been on the list. Communication suspensions are not something new. It's not allowed because yes there are kids on the system,
    but there are also people who just find that kind of language offensive. If anything can be offensive, it's not allowed.
  8. Smwutches Win User

    Problems with Criteria for Xbox Enforcement Part 2

    The rules themselves have always been the same. I think what has changed is the fact that there are more people who are trying to bait people into violating them. But if you're not doing anything to violate the code in the first place, you have nothing to
    worry about.
  9. bowski477 Win User

    Problems with Criteria for Xbox Enforcement Part 2

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