Major Issues with Xbox Live Enforcement

Discus and support Major Issues with Xbox Live Enforcement in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; I'm here to talk about some serious problems that I've seen recently in how Microsoft uses their enforcement actions against their player base. I've... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by dschein94, Jul 23, 2018.

  1. dschein94
    dschein94 Guest

    Major Issues with Xbox Live Enforcement


    I'm here to talk about some serious problems that I've seen recently in how Microsoft uses their enforcement actions against their player base. I've just received my third enforcement action for communications. I have never harassed anyone on Xbox live or
    any online gaming environment that I have engaged in for my entire life of online gaming, going back well over a decade at this point. I have never trolled anyone in a game that would warrant enforcement action on the part of Microsoft in my own opinion at
    least and in general I've never done anything in online gaming that I think would qualify as a justifiable means for a communication suspension or one of any kind for that matter.

    What I have done is be a competitive gamer and respond occasionally to messages sent to me by people who do deserve some sort of punishment for their conduct. These are the trolls, the ragers, the teamkillers, etc. The people who should not be allowed to
    exist in the same environment as competitive and overall friendly gamers and the same people who these enforcement actions should be targeted at but they are not. Even in these, I'll be generous by calling them "conversations", I didn't insult the other player
    no matter how much they might insult me, I never harassed them after the conversation had ended by spamming their account with messages or having my friends do it or something. Usually the incident would end with me blocking the other person and moving on.


    What seems to be the issue here is my choice of words in these "conversations." I tend to swear a lot when in non-professional company. I don't think it's a problem and I've been doing it my entire online gaming life without incident. Last year I received
    my first communications suspension, meaning messages, party and game chat, etc., for use of "inappropriate communications". From what I understand, and I'll get to later why I don't understand it all, if a message of yours gets reported by the, in my case
    usually, absolute waste of human filth that messaged me in the first place to troll me, insult my play style or whatever it is that crosses their mind at that point in time, who would love to harm my account in some way because they probably get off on it
    or something. Someone who would love to see your account get hurt in some way has the power to make that happen if I let lose a single profanity. All of this, in a supposedly relaxed, online gaming community which has historically been a place where people
    defend themselves with words when challenged, often by using profanity. Who in the **** thought that was a good idea at Microsoft?!?!?

    You're telling me, that in an online gaming environment where people swear at each other all the time, you're now going to regulate this act by suspending anyone who uses profanity, which is pretty much everyone who plays online games, on a first offense, non-harassing
    basis, on a reporting system that is controlled by someone who wants to see your account damaged? Does anyone at Microsoft really think that people won't take advantage of this? You must suspend thousands of accounts a week if not every few days with this
    system!!!! You'd be better off just disabling the messaging system altogether because it is incredibly rare for players to message each other with positive feedback in online gaming and that is a fact that everybody who plays knows.

    This raises the question of why Microsoft/Xbox is even regulating speech in general on their platform. Unfortunately I do believe it may be politically motivated, when their questionnaire for even submitting a review of your enforcement has questions involving
    the use of hate speech, gender identity and speech that might be deemed offensive by others. It is not the responsibility of the service provider to regulate what their players will see or hear from other players while using their service. Their job should
    be to provide that service and update and improve it regularly to make the experience of their players as good as possible. The only thing that they should regulate on their service is the use of hacking and trolling by players in game. They should completely
    stay away from communications between players. This does not negatively affect the game because Xbox Live has the option to block players from messaging you or mute them from talking to you. It does negatively affect the game when Xbox Enforcement decides
    to get involved in personal discussions between players that do not qualify as harassment by any definition when one player decides to report the other for use of profane language, that player who usually has an axe to grind with the other player for reasons
    I discussed above.

    For those who think that Microsoft has to censor its players because perhaps there are younger players on the site to hear this content, that is again not the responsibility of the service to cater specifically to a younger audience because their parents might
    complain. It is the responsibility of those parents to not allow their kids to be exposed to an environment that has that content if they are against it especially in games that are rated Teen or Mature.

    As well as the obvious issues I have with the apparent social justice warrior attitudes that Microsoft Enforcement has adopted recently, they have some serious practical issues with this "service" as well. As I mentioned earlier, they do not provide the specific
    message that they suspended your account for. They simply provide a blanket statement such as "inappropriate communications" or something else. So you will not know what message or messages that their "service" deemed worthy of suspension. If you feel that
    your suspension was unwarranted, which it usually is, you can choose to appeal that suspension, by answering a questionnaire that reminds me of having to write lines in early school years when the kid did something wrong. Oh, and on top of that, you have
    to answer every question correctly to even submit your appeal. On top of all of this, you cannot directly contact the enforcement team to speak to someone about your suspension. Reasons for this should be obvious but it's still very irritating to not be
    able to talk to anyone about the extremely vague reasons behind your suspension. Not even a robot.

    In general, there are some serious practical and philosophical problems with Microsoft's Enforcement conditions. They should not be censoring the speech of their players and punishing those who do something so small as swearing in a message, they should not
    be regulating communication at all because players have the ability to block other players from communicating with them, and they should reconsider the practicalities behind their system involving communication between the players and the administrators, especially
    considering this service is not free.

    :)
     
    dschein94, Jul 23, 2018
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  2. Can't sign in to XBL

    Did you check your email and make sure you're not the subject of XBOX Live enforcement?
     
    SimplyTheeBest, Jul 23, 2018
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  3. BongKaos
    BongKaos Guest
    Xbox live MAJOR issues!

    Sometimes a modem or router just goes bad. A call to your ISP should provide a cheap replacement.. If indeed the issue is on your end as stated above. TRY a direct modem conection to help diagnose. GOOD LUCK!!!
     
    BongKaos, Jul 23, 2018
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  4. ngocphi
    ngocphi Guest

    Major Issues with Xbox Live Enforcement

    that's what you aren't getting it doesn't matter who started it

    You respond or retaliate in anyway that violates the terms of use you will also be punished

    Their actions has no bearing on your suspension

    Block ignore and report that's all you are allowed to do

    FYI all consoles do this it doesn't matter who starts the fight

    Google emo kid vs Nintendo and Sony and ms

    He lost fyi
     
    ngocphi, Jul 23, 2018
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  5. bowski477
    bowski477 Guest
    Retaliating to a message puts you just as much in the wrong as the person who trolls/teamkills. These are the terms you agree to when signing up for XBL.
     
    bowski477, Nov 3, 2018
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  6. bowski477 Win User

    Major Issues with Xbox Live Enforcement

    Retaliating to a message puts you just as much in the wrong as the person who trolls/teamkills. These are the terms you agree to when signing up for XBL.
  7. ngocphi Win User

    Major Issues with Xbox Live Enforcement

    that's what you aren't getting it doesn't matter who started it

    You respond or retaliate in anyway that violates the terms of use you will also be punished

    Their actions has no bearing on your suspension

    Block ignore and report that's all you are allowed to do

    FYI all consoles do this it doesn't matter who starts the fight

    Google emo kid vs Nintendo and Sony and ms

    He lost fyi
  8. BrickCityRiot Win User

    Major Enforcement Issue

    The Enforcement staff do not post here, nor does anybody else have access to your Enforcement records. The forums will be unable to help you any further with your suspensions.
    I have seen posts where the op was able to get in contact with enforcement.
  9. Internet Expert Win User

    Major Enforcement Issue

    Enforcement has a lot of reports to review, and they could possibly be issuing their actions on reports submitted against you from days or weeks before.

    You will need to log on to http://enforcement.xbox.com to review your suspension details, and submit a case review for more answers (if eligible). If you don't see it on the Enforcement website right now, perhaps
    wait a little later until the history gets updated? I wouldn't know what else what to tell you for that.

    The Enforcement staff do not post here, nor does anybody else have access to your Enforcement records. The forums will be unable to help you any further with your suspensions.
  10. User 9242019 Win User

    Major Enforcement Issue

    The Enforcement staff do not post here, nor does anybody else have access to your Enforcement records. The forums will be unable to help you any further with your suspensions.

    I have seen posts where the op was able to get in contact with enforcement.
    Not in these forums you haven't. As Internet Expert says, no one here can help you. These are user forums and not used or supported by Enforcement. Phone or chat support can offer no help with enforcement actions either. While they may offer an opinion,
    it is just that, their opinion.
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