Last gen hold back this gen

Discus and support Last gen hold back this gen in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; @ Randver : Forza 5 : Drivatar,car physics improvement.... Dead Rising 3 : Number of zombies,open world (mostly no loading screens ),Kinect... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by ZTROOPER16, Feb 28, 2014.

  1. Tzar of kaos
    Tzar of kaos Guest

    Last gen hold back this gen


    @ Randver :

    Forza 5 : Drivatar,car physics improvement....

    Dead Rising 3 : Number of zombies,open world (mostly no loading screens ),Kinect features....

    I don't say it's totally futuristic,but it's feels more next gen than previous versions and than most of 3rd party games on Xbox one (vs Xbox 360 versions)
     
    Tzar of kaos, Feb 28, 2014
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  2. J3RS3Y DEVIL
    J3RS3Y DEVIL Guest
    @EnenDaveBboy,

    Only the guys from Respawn and Bluepoint Games know for sure on what aspects are different. Bluepoint is porting the Xbox One version to the 360.

    As far as the cloud stuff goes, its the same on all platforms.

    "So they built this powerful system to let us create all sorts of tasks that they will run for us, and it can scale up and down automatically as players come and go. We can upload new programs for them to run and they handle the deployment for us. And
    they’ll host our game servers for other platforms, too! Titanfall uses the Xbox Live Cloud to run dedicated servers for PC, Xbox One, and Xbox 360."


    I see Titanfall being the same game on the 360 like Call of Duty Ghosts was

    smaller textures, lower quality shadows, much simpler smoke effects, etc. but essentially the same game.
     
    J3RS3Y DEVIL, Feb 28, 2014
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  3. Devs will lose to much money if they drop the old gen. There is what about 8 or 9 million next gen consoles sold combined. Where as for the last gen there is over a 100 million last gen consoles sold. They would be cutting out a huge market. Gradually everyone
    will make the switch and then they will stop making games for them .
     
    PUDDIN DAGGER, Feb 28, 2014
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  4. Last gen hold back this gen

    @ Tzar of Kaos: Well put

    NEXT-GEN??? Xb1/ps4/pc are simply gaming machines with new hardware that make better graphics. As mentioned before PC is vastly superior to either console making it the ultimate (Next-Gen) machine but it only pumps out the same old stuff.

    People need to lower their expectations (NEXT-GEN = New console) that's it.

    It's only been 4 months.... Give it some time. I'm playing Tomb Raider right now and I love the fact that I can switch guns/attachments, pause the game, pull up the map, etc.... just by speaking to the Kinect.

    4+ Million Xb1 Sold compared 80+ Million 360 Sold.... That's why Devs need to focus on both consoles for now. It's about profit and not going bankrupt.
     
    HyPeR TRiGG3R, Feb 28, 2014
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  5. Burst Axe
    Burst Axe Guest
    @Randver lol at your Dynasty Warriors comment. A 100 soldiers on screen (comprised of both ally and enemy) with the enemy randomly disappearing in front of your attack because of poor draw distances is not anywhere near on par with what Dead Rising 3 accomplished.
    I'm sorry but Dead Rising 3 shows exactly what you get with a next gen focus.
     
    Burst Axe, Feb 28, 2014
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  6. Randver
    Randver Guest
    @Burst Axe - The draw distance is less of a problem in the newer ones, it was replaced with frame rate drops and now they seem to have got their act together.

    My point was actually more mobs on the screen doesn't mean better gameplay. I see "next gen" as " wow that's a cool feature, never seen that before" rather than adding a couple hundred zombies for me to run over.
     
    Randver, Feb 28, 2014
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  7. jaihawk
    jaihawk Guest
    DRAM is where a cross platform title would suffer. Map size is a great example. Games do get limited to some degree when they are designed to accommodate a lowest common denominator. A PC game developer still has to set a minimum requirement and build the
    game to work with that. If you don't have the minimum you don't play. Including the 360 means IT'S your minimum. Internet speeds are another good example. Some have fiber that runs at 100 meg speeds, but they get to play games that are made for probably 1.5
    meg so everyone can be accommodated.
     
    jaihawk, Feb 28, 2014
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  8. Burst Axe
    Burst Axe Guest

    Last gen hold back this gen

    @Randver More mobs on screen does mean better gameplay. It directly adds to the gameplay as you will be killing stuff more frequently. Both problems plagued by the Dynasty Warriors series are serious issues that we won't or rather, shouldn't see with stronger
    consoles. If that doesn't mean next gen then I don't know what does.
     
    Burst Axe, Feb 28, 2014
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  9. I don't know where to start on this one,, ok,, For starters OP, there is no way in the world that support for the ps3 and 360 as anything to do with what ever it is you're expecting from the xb1 or ps4. New consoles are new consoles, this meaning we have
    some time to go before it's the norm to have one. Finally, the leap in technology is not as massive as ps1 was to ps2, or saturn to dreamcast, it's impressive but not mind boggling.
     
    RedEye Expr3ss, Feb 28, 2014
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  10. xXBOXxOne
    xXBOXxOne Guest
    Defiantly!! There is no doubt that we are being held back by the xbox 360, the games are developed FOR the 360, makes the Xbox One handicapped! For the next 4 years!! Sure there is exclusives, I can only think of RYSE, Dead Rising 3, an NO other exclusive
    Xbox One Game.
     
    xXBOXxOne, Feb 28, 2014
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  11. CODukes4
    CODukes4 Guest
    There is no doubt that last gen is hampering next gen at this point. Give it a year or two.
     
    CODukes4, Feb 28, 2014
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  12. smileskybird
    smileskybird Guest
    Xbox 360 is still highly popular. Compare the number of peps who play on Xbox 1 to Xbox 360. So there is demand for it there too.

    Not everyone from Xbox 360 has brought an Xbox 1. And since Xbox 360 can do many things Xbox related, which Xbox 1 may not be able to do yet (recent players list, awesome Xbox Live Party system, voice messages, easier to use Dashboard, can add a picture/theme
    to the Dashboard background, beacon and friend notifications, etc). Only about 10 of my friends play on Xbox 1 and all of them return to playing on Xbox 360. Xbox 1 hasn't been out for even 4 months yet. Give it some time. The fact that Xbox 1 has received
    a lot of criticism and feedback is another factor.
     
    smileskybird, Oct 31, 2018
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  13. Burst Axe Win User

    Last gen hold back this gen

    @Randver lol at your Dynasty Warriors comment. A 100 soldiers on screen (comprised of both ally and enemy) with the enemy randomly disappearing in front of your attack because of poor draw distances is not anywhere near on par with what Dead Rising 3 accomplished.
    I'm sorry but Dead Rising 3 shows exactly what you get with a next gen focus.
  14. PUDDIN DAGGER Win User

    Last gen hold back this gen

    Devs will lose to much money if they drop the old gen. There is what about 8 or 9 million next gen consoles sold combined. Where as for the last gen there is over a 100 million last gen consoles sold. They would be cutting out a huge market. Gradually everyone
    will make the switch and then they will stop making games for them .
  15. ZTROOPER16 Win User

    Last gen hold back this gen

    Yea thief was a huge disappoint for me cuz of the loading ever place I went I felt like I was on x360. That what I talking about.
  16. BizarroMantis Win User

    Last gen hold back this gen

    At some point when more than half of the 360 users have moved on to the X1, it would be at THAT TIME wise to start focusing on exclusive X1 game development.
  17. Randver Win User

    Last gen hold back this gen

    And that's my question......What next gen things?

    All I've seen from the "next gen" is better console graphics that still aren't on par with the PC. That's about all any new console has brought to the table over the previous version. I'm not sure what you guys think is supposed to be happening.
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