Kinect is killing the Xbox One.

Discus and support Kinect is killing the Xbox One. in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; @IceStrom III Alright, so you admit to not having any argument has to why the X1 is $500. Fine by me. I know the goal of a company is to make as much... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by Zero Divided, Jan 28, 2014.

  1. Kinect is killing the Xbox One.


    @IceStrom III

    Alright, so you admit to not having any argument has to why the X1 is $500. Fine by me. I know the goal of a company is to make as much money as possible. And Microsoft is currently beating Sony in that category. The people I'm referring to are real life
    friends of mine but you can choose not to believe me if you want.

    Though Microsoft will be rolling in dough, in the end forcing Kinect down people's throats only affects their console. If anything the only thing you're proving to me is that Microsoft doesn't give a damn about the consumer.
     
    Taka x Illusion, Jan 28, 2014
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  2. Lloydy25
    Lloydy25 Guest
    @icestorm are you capable of offering an opinion without first dissecting someone elses post in a condescending manner?
     
    Lloydy25, Jan 28, 2014
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  3. [quote user="Gamer Nostalgia"]

    I do love how those of us who actually understand why Microsoft included the Kinect 2 with every Xbox One are called fanboys or part of some '"I love my Kinect" club'.

    .

    Taka, there are been dozens of these threads in the last few weeks alone. All of them the same, upset people who don't understand marketing or the entire purpose of a business, complaining about being forced fed the Kinect 2. Frankly, I'm
    getting tired of people trying to turn my Kinect into nothing but a paper weight, down my throat. I invested $500 for the future of gaming on the Xbox One WITH the Kinect 2.

    .

    IF you don't want to use the Kinect, that is fine. Don't plug it in but if you want to buy a console without a camera, please go to the competition because it's obvious you don't actually care about the Xbox brand!!!

    [/quote]That should tell you something.
     
    Sunburst Univox, Jan 28, 2014
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  4. Kinect is killing the Xbox One.

    Taka, what is your argument to why the Kinect is made the Xbox One $500? Besides the fact that you're just making that assumption. Please link your source from a Microsoft exec stating the Kinect 2 increased the price from $400 to $500.

    .

    "I've seen a lot of people say they aren't going to buy the X1 because they're going to be paying for something they don't want(Kinect)."

    Well I've seen a LOT of people purchase the Xbox One despite it coming with the Kinect, between 3-4 million people to be exact.

    .

    "in the end forcing Kinect down people's throats only affects their console" Or you are just being short-sighted and passing judgement on a "new" tech that you likely haven't even tried. (I don't recall reading anywhere that you said you owned an Xbox One.)

    .

    "So, basically MS decided to cater to devs rather than their consumer?" - Sunburst

    "If anything the only thing you're proving to me is that Microsoft doesn't give a damn about the consumer."- Taka

    If anything, the only thing that either of you are proving is that you only care about yourselves and don't give a damn about the rest of the Xbox One fanbase.

    And as far as Microsoft caring about their consumers, Microsoft never put their consumers' personal information in jeopardy b/c they felt like gloating..

    .

    .

    So THANK YOU MICROSOFT for caring about keeping my credit card information and billing address safe and secure!
     
    Gamer Nostalgia, Jan 28, 2014
    #34
  5. IceStorm III
    IceStorm III Guest
    [quote user="Sunburst Univox"]So, basically MS decided to cater to devs rather than their consumer?[/quote]The same consumers who made the original Kinect the fastest selling accessory in history?
    I
    never said that.[quote user="Taka x Illusion"]Alright, so you admit to not having any argument has to why the X1 is $500.[/quote]No, I said I'm not going to speculate then try to pass it off as fact.
    As Microsoft's goal with the Xbox is to sell things to the consumer, they by definition have to care somewhat about the consumer.
     
    IceStorm III, Jan 28, 2014
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  6. [quote user="Gamer Nostalgia"]

    Taka, what is your argument to why the Kinect is made the Xbox One $500? Besides the fact that you're just making that assumption. Please link your source from a Microsoft exec stating the Kinect 2 increased the price from $400 to $500.

    .

    "I've seen a lot of people say they aren't going to buy the X1 because they're going to be paying for something they don't want(Kinect)."

    Well I've seen a LOT of people purchase the Xbox One despite it coming with the Kinect, between 3-4 million people to be exact.

    .

    "in the end forcing Kinect down people's throats only affects their console" Or you are just being short-sighted and passing judgement on a "new" tech that you likely haven't even tried. (I don't recall reading anywhere that you said you owned an Xbox One.)

    .

    "So, basically MS decided to cater to devs rather than their consumer?" - Sunburst

    "If anything the only thing you're proving to me is that Microsoft doesn't give a damn about the consumer."- Taka

    If anything, the only thing that either of you are proving is that you only care about yourselves and don't give a damn about the rest of the Xbox One fanbase.

    And as far as Microsoft caring about their consumers, Microsoft never put their consumers' personal information in jeopardy b/c they felt like gloating..

    .

    .

    So THANK YOU MICROSOFT for caring about keeping my credit card information and billing address safe and secure!

    [/quote]If you have such a strong relationship with just a piece of hardware then you need help. I've read your post about the Kinect and I just laughed. Sorry, but after posting that you cannot be taken seriously.
     
    Taka x Illusion, Jan 28, 2014
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  7. Tzar of kaos
    Tzar of kaos Guest
    Cool, mostly 24 hours without an Xbox one hate thread.

    At least this thread is original......

    Nice job guys. Kinect is killing the Xbox One. ;)
     
    Tzar of kaos, Jan 28, 2014
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  8. Kinect is killing the Xbox One.

    [quote user="Gamer Nostalgia"]

    Taka, what is your argument to why the Kinect is made the Xbox One $500? Besides the fact that you're just making that assumption. Please link your source from a Microsoft exec stating the Kinect 2 increased the price from $400 to $500.

    .

    "I've seen a lot of people say they aren't going to buy the X1 because they're going to be paying for something they don't want(Kinect)."

    Well I've seen a LOT of people purchase the Xbox One despite it coming with the Kinect, between 3-4 million people to be exact.

    .

    "in the end forcing Kinect down people's throats only affects their console" Or you are just being short-sighted and passing judgement on a "new" tech that you likely haven't even tried. (I don't recall reading anywhere that you said you owned an Xbox One.)

    .

    "So, basically MS decided to cater to devs rather than their consumer?" - Sunburst

    "If anything the only thing you're proving to me is that Microsoft doesn't give a damn about the consumer."- Taka

    If anything, the only thing that either of you are proving is that you only care about yourselves and don't give a damn about the rest of the Xbox One fanbase.

    And as far as Microsoft caring about their consumers, Microsoft never put their consumers' personal information in jeopardy b/c they felt like gloating..

    .

    .

    So THANK YOU MICROSOFT for caring about keeping my credit card information and billing address safe and secure!

    [/quote]That's not true at all, I hope they make some really cool stuff for Kinect...BEFORE they try selling it to us. Make me want a Kinect and then I'll buy it of my own free will.
     
    Sunburst Univox, Jan 28, 2014
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  9. [quote user="IceStorm III"]

    [quote user=""]So, basically MS decided to cater to devs rather than their consumer?[/quote]The same consumers who made the original Kinect the fastest selling accessory in history?
    I
    never said that.[quote user="Taka x Illusion"]Alright, so you admit to not having any argument has to why the X1 is $500.[/quote]No, I said I'm not going to speculate then try to pass it off as fact.
    As Microsoft's goal with the Xbox is to sell things to the consumer, they by definition have to care somewhat about the consumer.

    [/quote]What? I don't even...nice deflection.
     
    Sunburst Univox, Jan 28, 2014
    #39
  10. I'm glad that they force it upon everyone if they didn't the developers would not use it enough and nothing good would come from it. Just my opinion.
     
    Fear2Eternity, Jan 28, 2014
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  11. According to Gamespot, the Fitness App for the XB1, which uses the kinect, is off to a "hot start," with over 1.5 million workouts logged in. I guess not everyone thinks the kinect is killing the XB1.
     
    Rustybug-A51A8BDD-51E1-4AE4-950A-50A5827D7BE8, Jan 28, 2014
    #41
  12. Hey guys Kinect is killing the Xbox One. :)



    Okay so here's the deal. As far as I know, there hasn't been a price tag put on the kinect as an individual piece of equipment. The kinect comes bundled with the console and consumers naturally have the choice of whether to purchase it or not. Misinformation
    will not get anyone anywhere. Yes the console reserves some power for the kinect but as its already been stated, not everyone uses the console for just gaming. Xbox Fitness for example. The kinect is required to exercise along with that program and if I remember
    correctly, Xbox Fitness will soon require a paid membership. This (in my opinion) is one of the many reasons that kinect's are bundled with the console, so that everyone has a chance to play with it and developers know that console owners will have one.



    It adds to the experience and it opens many doorways along the path.



    Now for the sake of the misinformation alone I am going to lock this one up before it gets out of hand. If you feel so strongly against the kinect being bundled with your Xbox One, my advice would be to post in the

    Console Feedback Forums
    .



    Please feel free to send me a PM if you have any questions.



    Many thanks,

    Cloud
     
    Mark Sherwood, Oct 31, 2018
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  13. Mark Sherwood Win User

    Kinect is killing the Xbox One.

    Hey guys :)



    Okay so here's the deal. As far as I know, there hasn't been a price tag put on the kinect as an individual piece of equipment. The kinect comes bundled with the console and consumers naturally have the choice of whether to purchase it or not. Misinformation
    will not get anyone anywhere. Yes the console reserves some power for the kinect but as its already been stated, not everyone uses the console for just gaming. Xbox Fitness for example. The kinect is required to exercise along with that program and if I remember
    correctly, Xbox Fitness will soon require a paid membership. This (in my opinion) is one of the many reasons that kinect's are bundled with the console, so that everyone has a chance to play with it and developers know that console owners will have one.



    It adds to the experience and it opens many doorways along the path.



    Now for the sake of the misinformation alone I am going to lock this one up before it gets out of hand. If you feel so strongly against the kinect being bundled with your Xbox One, my advice would be to post in the

    Console Feedback Forums
    .



    Please feel free to send me a PM if you have any questions.



    Many thanks,

    Cloud
  14. Fear2Eternity Win User

    Kinect is killing the Xbox One.

    I'm glad that they force it upon everyone if they didn't the developers would not use it enough and nothing good would come from it. Just my opinion.
  15. Tzar of kaos Win User

    Kinect is killing the Xbox One.

    Cool, mostly 24 hours without an Xbox one hate thread.

    At least this thread is original......

    Nice job guys. ;)
  16. IceStorm III Win User

    Kinect is killing the Xbox One.

    [quote user="Sunburst Univox"]So, basically MS decided to cater to devs rather than their consumer?[/quote]The same consumers who made the original Kinect the fastest selling accessory in history?
    The competition won't ever lower prices...huh???
    I
    never said that.[quote user="Taka x Illusion"]Alright, so you admit to not having any argument has to why the X1 is $500.[/quote]No, I said I'm not going to speculate then try to pass it off as fact.
    If anything the only thing you're proving to me is
    that Microsoft doesn't give a damn about the consumer.
    As Microsoft's goal with the Xbox is to sell things to the consumer, they by definition have to care somewhat about the consumer.
  17. Sunburst Univox Win User

    Kinect is killing the Xbox One.

    [quote user="IceStorm III"]

    [quote user="Taka x Illusion"]Until you can give me a valid argument as to why forcing the Kinect down people's throats is better than giving them an option whether they would like to buy it or not.[/quote]Optional accessories do not gain enough market share
    to make development for those accessories a rule, not an exception.

    It is a chicken and egg problem. MS has decided to ensure everyone has a Kinect so that no dev can say, "but we didn't want to waste time adding support for something only a few people have."
    The point I was trying to make in this thread
    was the X1 would sell better if it didn't come with the Kinect.
    If the Xbox One was $500 and didn't come with Kinect you think it would sell more units?

    Your supposition is tied directly to an assumption that Kinect raised the price of the console kit by $100. Maybe it did, maybe it didn't, maybe MS didn't want to take a loss on the hardware this time around. The fact is you don't know so stop assuming.

    Your assertion is also short sighted. Component prices and sizes come down over time. Eventually, a Kinect-enabled console will cost the same as the competition. At that point having Kinect will be a definite advantage, as will having a developer base that
    has had time to work with the sensor.

    [/quote]So, basically MS decided to cater to devs rather than their consumer?

    The competition won't ever lower prices...huh??? I've actually read that the components in the competition's product are more likely to decrease in price.
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