Just an idea for Xbox

Discus and support Just an idea for Xbox in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; I don't see that happening. If they're going to release an xbox with better hardware, it will probably be next gen stuff. That said, idk how long this... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by HairyLoveSpuds, Nov 6, 2015.

  1. Just an idea for Xbox


    I don't see that happening. If they're going to release an xbox with better hardware, it will probably be next gen stuff. That said, idk how long this current gen is going to last. The consoles are already tapped out when it comes to games on both platforms.
    There just isn't enough horsepower like it used to be when the ps3 and 360 launched.
     
    S0m3 DUd3 666, Nov 7, 2015
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  2. brett83501
    brett83501 Guest
    Well obviously it touched a nerve in some people bringing this up to get it to 3 pages long Azrael. There has been good points on all sides, but Yeah I doubt they would ever do a hardware overhaul, if they have a new system coming out in the next couple
    of years. I know the 360 has served it's purpose and it's time for me to upgrade, just was hesitant. Again thanks everyone for your input on this subject.
     
    brett83501, Nov 7, 2015
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  3. This debate will carry on for years to come....basically until the NEXT generation. What a waste of energy. I've played both an X1 and a Ps4 and personally, I can't tell the difference. Maybe it's due to the fact that I need new glasses, but they seemed
    too similar to nitpick. Can our forum EVER get beyond this?
     
    BizarroMantis, Nov 7, 2015
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  4. Just an idea for Xbox

    ^ Afraid not.

    Microsoft has thrown dedicated cores, new development tools, and even The Power of the Cloud at the problem to no avail.

    Now, with software you can mimic the solution for those who play online, but that's only a VR bandaid covering over the other bandaids in an attempt to hide the cancer.

    'resolutiongate'? Wasn't that the term a well known reporter (of sorts) was paid by MS to use in an article to help lend support to minions talking points such as. 'I can't see a difference.' when you obvisouly can? Example: Halo 5's paper waterfalls, changing
    textures and shadows that magically appears and disappears depending on how close the main characture is from structures etc.

    If I, being blind in one eye and half blind in the other can SEE IT. Then surely others can as well.
     
    ElectroFlying, Nov 7, 2015
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  5. Lofty Who
    Lofty Who Guest
    "This debate will carry on for years to come....basically until the NEXT generation. What a waste of energy. I've played both an X1 and a Ps4 and personally, I can't tell the difference. Maybe it's due to
    the fact that I need new glasses, but they seemed too similar to nitpick. Can our forum EVER get beyond this?" ....


    I doubt it! There's always been fanboys/girls about. I can even remember it going back to school when the Spectrum 48k/Commodore 64 was about, nowhere near as bad as today but it was there.

    Like you I have both consoles and I just cannot see the differences. Ok maybe if I ran a side by side comparison on the same TV ( which I'm not in the position to do and wouldn't waste my time ) but nah, it's just not there.

    What's made me chuckle on quite a few occasions is when you see on here from a few of the forum regulars .... "Microsoft has the way better exclusives" ..... Now ok I do think ( but it's just my own opinion on the type of games I enjoy ) Microsoft does have
    a great line up but for someone that doesn't like the likes of Forza, Halo etc how does Microsoft have the best exclusives? It seems some see it as because it's their opinion, it's fact for everyone else, ermmm no!

    End of the day though I think even the majority of fanboys can see there isn't such a difference between the two consoles, would they ever admit it? Very much doubt it as what could they use as ammo in the never ending war of words ... "Mines shinier than
    yours" ... I've said it many times though. If their console of choice is really that good, why spend all that time arguing with the other side? You've got a great console, the best games, best graphics but you choose to spend a lot of time throwing insults
    at the other side, make sense to anyone else?
     
    Lofty Who, Nov 8, 2015
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  6. John Dowding
    John Dowding Guest
    Electro comeback when you've played something apart from 360. Your opinion may have some validity then.
     
    John Dowding, Nov 8, 2015
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  7. Argontheos
    Argontheos Guest
    The VAST majority of this thread has been posts about whether the X1 would get an upgrade or not. Which was the OP's question. Replies have ranged from no, to maybe, to there'll be a next gen before that...

    ... there isn't a console war/debate happening in this thread. In fact some posts that have mentioned rival platforms have suggested that they need upgrades also. Nintendo's next-gen NX even got a mention. It's a next-gen a year or two away. Ha ha. {XD
     
    Argontheos, Nov 8, 2015
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  8. Just an idea for Xbox

    OFF TOPIC.

    Sorry Genchy, but everytime I go to buy a next gen console. I look down at the money and say to myself. 'Is it worth it?'

    Then I get to thinking about what games to get.

    X1 - I really only want Rise of the Tombraider.

    PS - No mans sky, and Uncharted 4.

    So in discussing it with my wife, she suggests other things, and just the other day reminded me that. 300 Billion in New spending was added to the National debt within a single day.

    So not wanting to follow their poor spending habits. I decided to just fill my game Library for the 360 and PS3 to help curb my gaming desires. Just an idea for Xbox ;)

    Yet you condend that if I don't actually own an X1 or P4 that any 'opinion' I may have is invalid? That's rich!

    ON TOPIC: If their is a 'next gen.' For consoles. I don't see it being a console but rather something simular to the Alienware Alpha.
     
    ElectroFlying, Nov 8, 2015
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  9. Argontheos
    Argontheos Guest
    Electro ~ I'd say grab a current-gen mate, whatever it is. I was playing Injustice and Soul Calibur V on 360 last night/this morning and I swear the controller feels like it has jam in it compared to the X1's.

    I played a little Dragons Dogma and trying to hit anything with my bow was crazy-hard. I used to be able to do it. lol There's a, delay, in the sticks. You move them, and what would be a precise nudge on X1, is no movement onscreen on 360. Heh.

    It takes about a day to get used to the graphics on X1, and take them for granted, but you appreciate them nonetheless. Bundles are cheaper heading into Christmas, games are cheaper, there are good digital sales week in and out, and Fallout 4, just, Fallout
    4... s'a no-brainer. Hop onboard. {=D
     
    Argontheos, Nov 8, 2015
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  10. John Dowding
    John Dowding Guest
    No Electro because your opinion is always anti something you don't have any first hand experience of, you speak about graphics differences and games when you haven't actually had any time with either console or played any of the games, therefore your opinion
    is invalid in my book.
     
    John Dowding, Nov 8, 2015
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  11. Argon, perhaps one day, perhaps not.

    Genchy: I would say that you're colder than a nudest on an iceberg. But somehow I think the reason you're here every day of the week insulting people is because you have been programmed to do so in an attempt to get threads locked/deleted by getting others
    PO'd and forcing them to retaliate against you.

    I don't know YOU personally, but if that's in fact the case. Then it will likely work against most people. But remember, I am not most people! Just an idea for Xbox ;)
     
    ElectroFlying, Nov 8, 2015
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  12. John Dowding
    John Dowding Guest
    My post above isn't insulting it's factual. The consoles launched two years ago, pretty much everyone has settled into their console of choice (or both). This forum is called the Xbox One forum , You don't have an Xbox One (ora PS4) but even after two
    years you sieze on anything negative you can about this generation of consoles. You never join in with game duscussions or anything positive, but should a thread appear about a controller issue your all over it posting your expert advice on why anyone adopting
    this gen is a "minion" of MS and why this gen is rubbish. Why you bother wasting you're ime trying to do this is beyond me. So as I said your opinion on anything this gen carries no weight because quite simply you don't actually know what you are talking
    about.
     
    John Dowding, Oct 31, 2018
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  13. John Dowding Win User

    Just an idea for Xbox

    Electro comeback when you've played something apart from 360. Your opinion may have some validity then.
  14. Lofty Who Win User

    Just an idea for Xbox

    "This debate will carry on for years to come....basically until the NEXT generation. What a waste of energy. I've played both an X1 and a Ps4 and personally, I can't tell the difference. Maybe it's due to
    the fact that I need new glasses, but they seemed too similar to nitpick. Can our forum EVER get beyond this?" ....


    I doubt it! There's always been fanboys/girls about. I can even remember it going back to school when the Spectrum 48k/Commodore 64 was about, nowhere near as bad as today but it was there.

    Like you I have both consoles and I just cannot see the differences. Ok maybe if I ran a side by side comparison on the same TV ( which I'm not in the position to do and wouldn't waste my time ) but nah, it's just not there.

    What's made me chuckle on quite a few occasions is when you see on here from a few of the forum regulars .... "Microsoft has the way better exclusives" ..... Now ok I do think ( but it's just my own opinion on the type of games I enjoy ) Microsoft does have
    a great line up but for someone that doesn't like the likes of Forza, Halo etc how does Microsoft have the best exclusives? It seems some see it as because it's their opinion, it's fact for everyone else, ermmm no!

    End of the day though I think even the majority of fanboys can see there isn't such a difference between the two consoles, would they ever admit it? Very much doubt it as what could they use as ammo in the never ending war of words ... "Mines shinier than
    yours" ... I've said it many times though. If their console of choice is really that good, why spend all that time arguing with the other side? You've got a great console, the best games, best graphics but you choose to spend a lot of time throwing insults
    at the other side, make sense to anyone else?
  15. ElectroFlying Win User

    Just an idea for Xbox

    You can always trade in your old xbox One for $100.00 off the purchase of an Xbox 1 Elite and upgrade Genchy, but if you decide not to.

    That's your choice. ;)
  16. A Blue Illusion Win User

    Just an idea for Xbox

    If they did it and the current models retained their performance capabilities, what's the issue, Blue?

    The issue is merely a matter of preference. It stems from a feeling of stability, especially over time (even if it's a relatively short time, unlike the last gen). Some people
    simply like the idea of getting a console and having the knowledge that the hardware and performance will remain the same for awhile. It allows them to focus on the more enjoyable aspects of gaming, as opposed to 'keeping up with the Jones'.

    You'd be getting the same games, with the same performance on the current models, and newer games too. Just there'd just be newer models floating around that'd be capable of slightly better.

    Which there is nothing wrong with... right up until it comes to playing with others on XBL. Then, the "slightly better" aspect can be perceived as having an advantage.

    The length of last-gen's life-cycle won't be repeated,

    Not saying that's impossible, but I will say... says random guy on internet.

    and R&D'ing, producing, marketing, and establishing a brand of a new console would be way more work and costly than just releasing revised Xbox One models with its installed-base, game library, and strong brand already
    in place.

    Probably... but perception is a funny thing. Some people like the idea of waiting for a period of time for something "all new". Like a console. The idea of just abandoning any
    future console generations in order to just keep throwing upgrades at the last one, can easily be perceived as cheap to some people. I'm one of them.

    I don't get why people would be ticked off. It's not like a revised model would render the X1's we have now defunct.Just like the Elite controller doesn't render standard
    controllers obsolete.

    Between this post and my last, I've explained as well as I can. I'm fully aware it won't render anything defunct or obsolete. However, many people may perceive it that way regardless.

    People are already talking about the X1 Elite bundle's improved HDD. That's no different. Doesn't bother me a jot. {=D

    Unless there's some misunderstanding going on, there is a monumental difference between the simple addition of a larger HDD and a hardware upgrade that changes the console's gaming
    performance. They can add a petabyte HDD for all I care.

    I ain't worried whatever the plan is for newer models. S'all so far off it don't matter.

    Some people seem to think it'll only be a couple of years until the next gen 'thing' (whatever it may be) happens. I wouldn't call that 'so far off'... but... I actually hope it
    is that far off.

    Better res/power in games could be delivered to newer models in patches from devs that older models wouldn't get. Meh.

    Yeah... because the devs are doing such a great job at making awesome quality games nowadays and getting them finished under their publishers' deadlines. I'm sure multiple GB day
    one patches will soon be a thing of the past and they'll have plenty of time to do that.

    Hmmm... by the time you get to download a game's day 1 patch, then the additional data for the 'newer models', plus that day 1 patch, plus the all the different patches for all
    models in between (as well as including) the lowest and highest tier models... do you think they'll have time to make more games?
  17. pkvas Win User

    Just an idea for Xbox

    You really believe devs would take the time to work on those patches? If they do which I doubt they would they wouldn't do it for free and then once the patch is out I bet the number of people who download it wouldn't be enough for them to keep doing it
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