Issues with the reputation system.

Discus and support Issues with the reputation system. in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; May be flawed and surely needs reviewing as all systems do, however, it is the best system available at the time and you can be assured if there was... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by Dennis19901, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. {Parity}
    {Parity} Guest

    Issues with the reputation system.


    May be flawed and surely needs reviewing as all systems do, however, it is the best system available at the time and you can be assured if there was not any system in place the game play would be much worse.
     
    {Parity}, Feb 11, 2016
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  2. Dennis19901
    Dennis19901 Guest
    No. This system is not the best there is. It's the worst there is. It simply doesn't work and I've already demonstrated a case where it does not work.

    Games themselves should handle this through exp and true-skill penalties or auto-kick systems. Some games (such as Halo) don't experience a lot of team killers at all because the game itself handles it very well.

    Xbox should not try to interfere with a broken system.
     
    Dennis19901, Feb 12, 2016
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  3. {Parity}
    {Parity} Guest
    Point noted. You definitely have a right to your opinions which are in many cases very valid.
     
    {Parity}, Feb 12, 2016
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  4. oOUTSIDERo62
    oOUTSIDERo62 Guest

    Issues with the reputation system.

    For my fellow ambassadors, there was a time with the HALO MCC that players would avoid others that were better then themselves using the rep system. Click avoid, do not get matched with that player again. But it lowered the rep of the better player. For
    a time, we had LOTS of rep complaints on the forums, and I know the issue was looked into, but never heard the results of that investigation. I know that some of the players rep was returned to playable conditions. It is possible that HALO and Rainbow are
    experiencing this again, as a way to avoid being matched with better players. The problem is, that back then, rep was considered an enforcement action, and now it is not. I really have no idea how to direct people now, or even suggest how to have this looked
    into. Maybe one of our alpha ambassadors or Official Support could chime in here and give us some suggestions.
     
    oOUTSIDERo62, Feb 12, 2016
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  5. {Parity}
    {Parity} Guest
    Thanks for the info oOUTSIDERo62. That is good to know. Hopefully, someone will look into it very soon. Happy Gaming!
     
    {Parity}, Feb 12, 2016
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  6. Dennis19901
    Dennis19901 Guest
    In a new development to show exactly how bad this system is.

    I was in a game where at a certain moment, someone I was playing with downed a teammate on purpose. After another teammate revived him, he thought I downed him so he and his friend team killed me. After that they reported me (they sent me a message saying
    they had).

    BOTH of these reports passed and they added to my account. Good system Microsoft.

    I also at one point accidentally reported someone for messaging and voice communication both. The person in question did not message me nor did he use his microphone at all, yet again BOTH of these reports passed.

    This "system" is seriously garbage.
     
    Dennis19901, Oct 31, 2018
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  7. NOOOOOMONICA Win User

    Reputation System Issues

    99.9% of live players and most Online players on psn don't have rep issues

    Or enforcement

    Be human it's not rocket science

    I could possibly give that merit if there were the option of Positive Feedback.

    As it stands, it's either bad feedback or no feedback. So, just because only a handful of players experience valid issues with the reputation system, it shouldn't even be considered that an exploitation may have occurred? What motivation is there to dig
    myself out of the hole, when for all I know I could be at the center of the Earth and die before ever reaching the surface? There is so much grey area here. You lump players into 4 categories... Or in my case only 2. That's a pretty small spectrum. I would
    appreciate it if you used grammar and would proofread your responses to me before clicking the "Comment" button. Thank you. It also doesn't take rocket science to believe that a man-made algorithm can and does have faults. What with it being man-made and
    all..

    While it is interesting to debate the issue from an implementation stand point, it is an useless exercise as no one here in the forums or on twitter or phone support can help with any rep or enforcement action. Most of us never have to deal with it, in any
    case, as we play fair, don't provoke, lose gracefully and win the same way. To those players the system is transparent, as it should be.

    It would be better to focus on your 19 reports of unsporting behavior than picking on ngocphi's syntax or sentence structure in their responses. Not everyone uses English as a first language and doing what you are doing is just deflecting from the fact that
    OTHER players see you as a bad sport. In answer, YOUR only motivation to dig yourself out is to be able to play with others, I suppose?

    The biggest myth about Enforcement and apparently now the Rep system is that the system is automated and that punishments are meted out that way. When individual actions are flagged by others they are investigated and then approved or disproved as valid
    and invalid. 1 valid complaint and 99 invalid equals 1 valid complaint.
    19 reports back in December? I mean, it's not like I was able to interact with other players once placed into online purgatory. I skipped both "Needs Work" regions. You would think with the amount of players encountered by now without provocation would
    have changed things. There was no picking apart syntax or sentence structure. Is it too much of an expectation to have periods at the end of sentences? Sheesh. So, despite not violating the Terms of Service nor the Code of Conduct, I can still be penalized
    and essentially have my money stolen? With no means of appealing the decision aside from putting in my own time and effort with no visible impact whatsoever? Should I use a tablespoon to dig the hole, as well? I would love to see the concrete evidence as
    suggested by your response. What I meant in regards to motivation is this... There is no way to track an increase in reputation. All you can do is load your profile up on the console and pray that it doesn't say "Avoid Me"? No progress bar? No "Percentage
    until "Needs Work""? Just blindly playing games I hate with no end in sight? Yeah, I think I'll spend my money somewhere else.
  8. ngocphi Win User

    Reputation System Issues

    99.9% of live players and most Online players on psn don't have rep issues

    Or enforcement

    Be human it's not rocket science
  9. ngocphi Win User

    Reputation System Issues

    it's not the runaround

    You have been told the correct answer

    You must change your behaviour becusde it not just Xbox that uses rep

    It'sIt'snot a an enforcement or an Support issue

    It your behaviour

    Reputation has never ever been something that can be reset even in real life it's not you who decides your rep it's the community opinion of you

    Only by changing your behaviour eventually it will be fixed
  10. ngocphi Win User

    Issues with the reputation system.

    If you can't play nice you will just have to play with the bad rep players until you improve

    It's like a timeout you can't play nice matches if you destroy and make games not fun for ithers
  11. ngocphi Win User

    Issues with the reputation system.

    Rep isn't based on one match but how you play in multiple matches

    And how others like playing with you

    So one bad score won't give you red

    A lot of bad scores will
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