Issues with the reputation system.

{Parity} · Feb 11, 2016

May be flawed and surely needs reviewing as all systems do, however, it is the best system available at the time and you can be assured if there was not any system in place the game play would be much worse.

Dennis19901 · Feb 12, 2016

No. This system is not the best there is. It's the worst there is. It simply doesn't work and I've already demonstrated a case where it does not work.

Games themselves should handle this through exp and true-skill penalties or auto-kick systems. Some games (such as Halo) don't experience a lot of team killers at all because the game itself handles it very well.

Xbox should not try to interfere with a broken system.

{Parity} · Feb 12, 2016

Point noted. You definitely have a right to your opinions which are in many cases very valid.

oOUTSIDERo62 · Feb 12, 2016

For my fellow ambassadors, there was a time with the HALO MCC that players would avoid others that were better then themselves using the rep system. Click avoid, do not get matched with that player again. But it lowered the rep of the better player. For
a time, we had LOTS of rep complaints on the forums, and I know the issue was looked into, but never heard the results of that investigation. I know that some of the players rep was returned to playable conditions. It is possible that HALO and Rainbow are
experiencing this again, as a way to avoid being matched with better players. The problem is, that back then, rep was considered an enforcement action, and now it is not. I really have no idea how to direct people now, or even suggest how to have this looked
into. Maybe one of our alpha ambassadors or Official Support could chime in here and give us some suggestions.

{Parity} · Feb 12, 2016

Thanks for the info oOUTSIDERo62. That is good to know. Hopefully, someone will look into it very soon. Happy Gaming!

Dennis19901 · Oct 31, 2018

In a new development to show exactly how bad this system is.

I was in a game where at a certain moment, someone I was playing with downed a teammate on purpose. After another teammate revived him, he thought I downed him so he and his friend team killed me. After that they reported me (they sent me a message saying
they had).

BOTH of these reports passed and they added to my account. Good system Microsoft.

I also at one point accidentally reported someone for messaging and voice communication both. The person in question did not message me nor did he use his microphone at all, yet again BOTH of these reports passed.

This "system" is seriously garbage.

NOOOOOMONICA

99.9% of live players and most Online players on psn don't have rep issues

Or enforcement

Be human it's not rocket science

I could possibly give that merit if there were the option of Positive Feedback.

As it stands, it's either bad feedback or no feedback. So, just because only a handful of players experience valid issues with the reputation system, it shouldn't even be considered that an exploitation may have occurred? What motivation is there to dig
myself out of the hole, when for all I know I could be at the center of the Earth and die before ever reaching the surface? There is so much grey area here. You lump players into 4 categories... Or in my case only 2. That's a pretty small spectrum. I would
appreciate it if you used grammar and would proofread your responses to me before clicking the "Comment" button. Thank you. It also doesn't take rocket science to believe that a man-made algorithm can and does have faults. What with it being man-made and
all..

While it is interesting to debate the issue from an implementation stand point, it is an useless exercise as no one here in the forums or on twitter or phone support can help with any rep or enforcement action. Most of us never have to deal with it, in any
case, as we play fair, don't provoke, lose gracefully and win the same way. To those players the system is transparent, as it should be.

It would be better to focus on your 19 reports of unsporting behavior than picking on ngocphi's syntax or sentence structure in their responses. Not everyone uses English as a first language and doing what you are doing is just deflecting from the fact that
OTHER players see you as a bad sport. In answer, YOUR only motivation to dig yourself out is to be able to play with others, I suppose?

The biggest myth about Enforcement and apparently now the Rep system is that the system is automated and that punishments are meted out that way. When individual actions are flagged by others they are investigated and then approved or disproved as valid
and invalid. 1 valid complaint and 99 invalid equals 1 valid complaint.

19 reports back in December? I mean, it's not like I was able to interact with other players once placed into online purgatory. I skipped both "Needs Work" regions. You would think with the amount of players encountered by now without provocation would
have changed things. There was no picking apart syntax or sentence structure. Is it too much of an expectation to have periods at the end of sentences? Sheesh. So, despite not violating the Terms of Service nor the Code of Conduct, I can still be penalized
and essentially have my money stolen? With no means of appealing the decision aside from putting in my own time and effort with no visible impact whatsoever? Should I use a tablespoon to dig the hole, as well? I would love to see the concrete evidence as
suggested by your response. What I meant in regards to motivation is this... There is no way to track an increase in reputation. All you can do is load your profile up on the console and pray that it doesn't say "Avoid Me"? No progress bar? No "Percentage
until "Needs Work""? Just blindly playing games I hate with no end in sight? Yeah, I think I'll spend my money somewhere else.

ngocphi

99.9% of live players and most Online players on psn don't have rep issues

Or enforcement

Be human it's not rocket science

ngocphi

it's not the runaround

You have been told the correct answer

You must change your behaviour becusde it not just Xbox that uses rep

It'sIt'snot a an enforcement or an Support issue

It your behaviour

Reputation has never ever been something that can be reset even in real life it's not you who decides your rep it's the community opinion of you

Only by changing your behaviour eventually it will be fixed

ngocphi

If you can't play nice you will just have to play with the bad rep players until you improve

It's like a timeout you can't play nice matches if you destroy and make games not fun for ithers

ngocphi

Rep isn't based on one match but how you play in multiple matches

And how others like playing with you

So one bad score won't give you red

A lot of bad scores will

Issues with the reputation system.