Is an Xbox Forums rule in violation of U.S law?

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  1. Is an Xbox Forums rule in violation of U.S law?


    In the United States we have the Bill of Rights and in that we have the Freedom of Speech Act.

    In Freedom of Speech Act says "Citizens of the United States have the right of peaceful petition" now if you look at the forums rule (21)Please do not start any "Sign petition" threads, or "Poll” is that not a violation of my Right given to me by
    the forefathers of my Nation the same Rights countless men and women of my county have fought bled and died to protect?

    As an American company is Microsoft not bound by the laws of the United States and by outlawing my Right of Starting or Signing a Petition do they not violate their own rules? “Defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise
    violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others” and “Publish, post, upload, distribute or disseminate any topic, name, material or information that incites
    discrimination, hate or violence towards one person or a group because of their belonging to a race, a religion or
    a nation, or that insults the victims of crimes against humanity by contesting the existence of those crimes.” “Violate any applicable laws or regulations.”

    By violating my legal rights by discriminating against my Nations right of peaceful petition does Microsoft break three of their rules?

    I get why Microsoft put that in their rules no company big or small wants people to get together and demand they change things but that is what my forefathers envisioned, a county where people were in charge and could exchange ideals and make changes by
    saying in one unified voice that they demand change.

    If we are to allow Microsoft to remove one of our freedoms is that not a bad thing and should people not stand up for their Rights whenever they come under attack?

    :)
     
    UrGreatestEnemy, Jan 24, 2017
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  2. ngocphi
    ngocphi Guest
    Forced gamertag change

    reposting vulgarity is a violation of the forum rules
     
    ngocphi, Jan 24, 2017
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  3. iNb4 Ownage
    iNb4 Ownage Guest
    Looking for fun people to play BF3 with.

    Actually, giving away any type of merchandise on the forums is in violation of the Forum Rules. However you can give away stuff via Xbox LIVE. Is an Xbox Forums rule in violation of U.S law? :)
     
    iNb4 Ownage, Jan 24, 2017
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  4. Smwutches
    Smwutches Guest

    Is an Xbox Forums rule in violation of U.S law?

    Freedom of speech does not apply to private businesses. So Microsoft have the right to have those rules.
     
    Smwutches, Jan 24, 2017
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  5. Microsoft is bound by the laws of the United States and in my opinion law will always trumps any rule made up by any private business. So Microsoft should maybe reconsider that particular rule to allow people more freedom to expression their ideas.
     
    UrGreatestEnemy, Jan 24, 2017
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  6. And I'm not saying Microsoft does not have the rights to make those rules.

    I can makeup rules as well but I have no right to enforce those rules when they conflict with the laws of the land.
     
    UrGreatestEnemy, Jan 24, 2017
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  7. This forum is mainly about talking about Xbox, the games, support, and related Xbox gaming discussion. Individual websites, let alone corporate entities as large as Microsoft, have the exclusive right to monitor, censor, and moderate what gets published
    internally. You have the right as a citizen to consider yourself as part of the community, so as long as you abide by the stated rules of the forum (as well as the MSA).

    With the logic you present, you'd may as well go to a Star Trek fan forum, talk exclusively about Star Wars, and start threatening to sue for violations of free speech once they ban you for being an off-topic nuisance -- it just doesn't work that way.

    The answer is here: the first amendment to "free speech" was put in place to protect you against censorship by the government. You are shielded from the government restricting what you can say. Not private organizations.
    Private organizations have the right to show you the door.
     
    Internet Expert, Jan 24, 2017
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  8. User 9242019
    User 9242019 Guest

    Is an Xbox Forums rule in violation of U.S law?

    To add to what Internet Expert said the same applies to the use of Xbox Live, where by agreeing to the EULA when you sign up for the paid service, you are expressly told that by using the system and service you should have no expectation of privacy in anything
    you do while on that service, be it gameplay, voice communication, messaging and no right to modify the console or any games contained within. In addition Microsoft determines what violates those terms not the user.

    You haven't found any kind of loophole.
     
    User 9242019, Jan 25, 2017
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  9. I was not looking for a loophole, I was just suggesting that rule 21 is in conflict with their other rules Microsoft is telling people to obey the laws and regulations. Yet they are in violation of their own rules. I put this on this form simply because
    there was no other forum to discuss the rules. And as I said before a private business can make any rule they want I have no problem with that the only problem I have is when it comes in conflict with the Constitution that all are brave men and women fight
    and die to protect. Microsoft being a large company should respect and defend the Constitution not undermine it with rules.
     
    UrGreatestEnemy, Jan 25, 2017
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  10. DrunkenAcid
    DrunkenAcid Guest
    Actually, no it is not in violation of the constitution, this is their forum and they own the rights to what goes on and what rules they set for the forum. They have a specific area for petitions and polls here:
    Xbox Ideas, powered by UserVoice

    Instead of coming in and bashing, try asking Is an Xbox Forums rule in violation of U.S law? ;) There is always an answer some where!
     
    DrunkenAcid, Jan 25, 2017
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  11. User 9242019
    User 9242019 Guest
    Your use of the service is not regulated by the Constitution and is not in conflict with it.

    There is no Freedom of Speech Act, it is the First Amendment to the Constitution and reads in full:
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government
    for a redress of grievances.

    So feel free to petition the Government for redress of grievances but Microsoft despite their size isn't a government and can make rules and apply them to the service as they see fit.
     
    User 9242019, Oct 31, 2018
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  12. UrGreatestEnemy Win User

    Is an Xbox Forums rule in violation of U.S law?

    I was not looking for a loophole, I was just suggesting that rule 21 is in conflict with their other rules Microsoft is telling people to obey the laws and regulations. Yet they are in violation of their own rules. I put this on this form simply because
    there was no other forum to discuss the rules. And as I said before a private business can make any rule they want I have no problem with that the only problem I have is when it comes in conflict with the Constitution that all are brave men and women fight
    and die to protect. Microsoft being a large company should respect and defend the Constitution not undermine it with rules.
  13. User 9242019 Win User

    Is an Xbox Forums rule in violation of U.S law?

    To add to what Internet Expert said the same applies to the use of Xbox Live, where by agreeing to the EULA when you sign up for the paid service, you are expressly told that by using the system and service you should have no expectation of privacy in anything
    you do while on that service, be it gameplay, voice communication, messaging and no right to modify the console or any games contained within. In addition Microsoft determines what violates those terms not the user.

    You haven't found any kind of loophole.
  14. UrGreatestEnemy Win User

    Is an Xbox Forums rule in violation of U.S law?

    And I'm not saying Microsoft does not have the rights to make those rules.

    I can makeup rules as well but I have no right to enforce those rules when they conflict with the laws of the land.
  15. User 9242019 Win User

    Is an Xbox Forums rule in violation of U.S law?

    I was not looking for a loophole, I was just suggesting that rule 21 is in conflict with their other rules Microsoft is telling people to obey the laws and regulations. Yet they are in violation of their own rules. I put this on this form simply because
    there was no other forum to discuss the rules. And as I said before a private business can make any rule they want I have no problem with that the only problem I have is when it comes in conflict with the Constitution that all are brave men and women fight
    and die to protect. Microsoft being a large company should respect and defend the Constitution not undermine it with rules.
    Your use of the service is not regulated by the Constitution and is not in conflict with it.

    There is no Freedom of Speech Act, it is the First Amendment to the Constitution and reads in full:
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government
    for a redress of grievances.

    So feel free to petition the Government for redress of grievances but Microsoft despite their size isn't a government and can make rules and apply them to the service as they see fit.
  16. Internet Expert Win User

    Is an Xbox Forums rule in violation of U.S law?

    This forum is mainly about talking about Xbox, the games, support, and related Xbox gaming discussion. Individual websites, let alone corporate entities as large as Microsoft, have the exclusive right to monitor, censor, and moderate what gets published
    internally. You have the right as a citizen to consider yourself as part of the community, so as long as you abide by the stated rules of the forum (as well as the MSA).

    With the logic you present, you'd may as well go to a Star Trek fan forum, talk exclusively about Star Wars, and start threatening to sue for violations of free speech once they ban you for being an off-topic nuisance -- it just doesn't work that way.

    The answer is here: the first amendment to "free speech" was put in place to protect you against censorship by the government. You are shielded from the government restricting what you can say. Not private organizations.
    Private organizations have the right to show you the door.
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