Internet required??

Discus and support Internet required?? in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; I have only ever had the original xbox and since have used the playstations. However I thought i would give the xbox 1 a shot and went out and bought a... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by aName28, Nov 3, 2018.

  1. aName28
    aName28 Guest

    Internet required??


    I have only ever had the original xbox and since have used the playstations. However I thought i would give the xbox 1 a shot and went out and bought a new one. Only to find out that it cant even be used unless you have an internet connection for the set
    up? Im not sure the reasoning behind this or if im just misunderstanding something in the set up process but this requirement has already pushed me away from this series of consoles.

    I suggest avoiding this requirement on any future console you make

    :)
     
    aName28, Nov 3, 2018
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  2. BraniacBrian
    BraniacBrian Guest
    Internet Conection

    I've been having some problems with that internet connection error, too, but honestly, I don't know how I feel about disabling the firewall and/or security features of the router. I hope they release a patch soon that will fix the problem.
     
    BraniacBrian, Nov 3, 2018
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  3. Funky Jammer
    Funky Jammer Guest
    Internet Explorer

    I don't have my keyboard for my controller, so I have no need for the IE on there. Good to know its a productive app though.
     
    Funky Jammer, Nov 3, 2018
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  4. JhonSnow777
    JhonSnow777 Guest

    Internet required??

    Sorry, your going to need some internet for the initial start-up of the Xbox One. You’ll need a broadband Internet connection to complete the initial Xbox One setup and to use some of the most exciting features, apps, and games. Unfortunatelly technology
    are continuous evolving, and internet is a very usefull tool/service that makes the experience much more pleasant.

    You can learn how to setup the Xbox one in the following link:

     
    JhonSnow777, Nov 3, 2018
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  5. That's not going to happen.

    The very reason the console needs an update is because without it, various pirating a modding communities would have a much easier time of getting Xbox consoles to run illegal pirated games. The same is true with PS4.
     
    Obsessive Power, Nov 3, 2018
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  6. IRB
    IRB Guest
    After the initial setup you can take the console offline and continue to play your disc games without a connection if you prefer. It is the initial setup that requires the connection.
     
  7. aName28
    aName28 Guest
    I understand having internet allows the full use of games and appliances but when you make it a requirement your pushing away consumers. The playstation as far as I remember can always be used even through set up with no internet. And no its not going
    to make it easier for people to hack games, the hacked games come from pirate sites that allow you to download to disks or hardrives and are recognized on the console as a normal copy. What your thinking of is propbably people modding the consoles like they
    did with the ps3, but that required the use of internet. I bought this brick to use while i move into my new place, and now i cant until i get internet. From my side of the issue there is no reason to continue with this series of consoles when i can just go
    back to the ps4 that allows offline use. From a marketing standpoint this requirement is going to hold xbox below the playstations no matter how you want to look at it cause internet is not always readily available for all consumers
     
    aName28, Nov 4, 2018
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  8. CIDkidzPILLZ
    CIDkidzPILLZ Guest

    Internet required??

    Yeah, I found the requirement for internet for the initial setup process a bit disconcerting as well. Personally, this doesn't effect me, but I completely get where you're coming from.
     
    CIDkidzPILLZ, Nov 4, 2018
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  9. ngocphi
    ngocphi Guest
    Here is the thing you.dont get

    Bothballow for offline use

    You are just spending a lot of money for what is normal

    If you dontwanrt a day 1 patch

    Well unfortunately you will havw to go back to xbox 360 and ps3 days and no get newer games

    As the others have mentioned its only when you initially setup the console as you need to have an ms or ps account to setup the console regardless if its ps4 xbox or the switch

    As people mentioned its only for the initial install or digital downloads which you need both psn or xbox live updates and even on switch

    Games will not play without certain updates and this DOES INCLUDE disk games and console irrevelvant

    This isnt 1996

    Games continue to add features and stability fixes for offline use past disk release

    You will be hardpressed to find a game regardless of console that doesnt require a update even after launch disk or digital download or certain firmware

    And guess who made this famous

    SONY and yes disk games require certain firmware versions COD comes to mind that needs a day 1 patch to play online and sometimes evwn offline for the firmware patch

    even the nintendo switch first party games usually require a day one patch
     
    ngocphi, Nov 4, 2018
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  10. aName28
    aName28 Guest
    And as I have already mentioned the requirement of internet for initial start up is the major issue. Im not looking for the full experience of the console or select games, i just want to be able to turn this brick on and use a disc. This becomes impossible
    though with microsofts internet wall in the initial set up. And no the playstations do not require internet for set up, its only required to use online features. And the only games that will not play without updates are those using online features. I realize
    your a fanboy based off your frusterated attack but this post has has maintained a level of maturity so lets keep it that way if you plan to add any input
     
    aName28, Nov 4, 2018
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  11. ngocphi
    ngocphi Guest
    Nope as I do have not one but three ps consoles I suggest you educate yourself instead of accusing people

    I own two ps4s and a vita and I had a psp and a nintendo switch and a snes classic and only one xbox one what more proof do you want ?

    Im sorry where do I attack?

    I suggest you reread the post

    As people mentioned you need to activate your console online period



    So are you saying that this video and guy is lying notice he said first time setup

    And even myself and other ambassadors who have both consoles

    Fyi the activation deactivates the always on drm in the os on both consoles hence why you need the patch.

    The ps4 is not the same as the ps3

    Its more connected and very sneaky it will sometimes auto update on you

    Not one but threee ambassadoer t old you the truth

    Fyi shows you have no idea how current gen consoles work

    And yes I have cod on ps4 it requires an update before you install

    Its not about having current features its abouta having the current version

    Some disk games willbnot play without a recwnt version or ps4 or xbox or switch firmware and yes they build the checks inro rhe game

    Ps vita switch qnd ps4 andxboxx all havw that requirement

    And yes it is a priracy check

    You are guessing since you dont have a ps4 yet yes you dont need to be always on on xbox or ps4 but for the inutal setup and firmware you do

    You can even check sonys website

    The PS4 you get right out of the box is factory edition. It is always loaded with an old Firmware that you need to update. Now some games require a few extra features to be able to run and for them the update
    is required.

    In case of Fifa (since it is a bundled edition) that wont be a big deal. But if you buy other games like Battlefield 4 ( The physical edition and not the digital edition from Playstation Store) then you might
    need tons of updates for the game to give you a stable gameplay.

    Updates are always mandatory before running a game because some games tend to crash in an old firmware.

    As we say updates are mandatory reguardless of disc or digital
     
    ngocphi, Nov 4, 2018
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  12. aName28
    aName28 Guest
    Im not sure what your looking for, most people own multiple consoles i have all the playstations and regularly use the ps4. You can even do a quick google search along the lines of "ps4 set up no internet" that will bring you to multiple sites letting
    you know that internet is not required for the initial set up. Which is where the problem comes for the xbox being opposite in that it requires internet for the initial set up. This isnt a discussion of online features and the use of internet so updates, downloads,
    etc.. do not pertain to the problem i have run into and brought up. However this also isnt a
    [Mod Removed - Profanity] match between xbox and playstation fanboyism, the original post conveyed my thoughts on why i was instantly pushed away from supporting this series of consoles and a suggestion to improve future ones so others and
    myself do not run into the same situation. If you cant understand that then i think your here for purposes other than adding input to the message this post was directed at.
     
    aName28, Nov 4, 2018
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  13. Internet required??

    You're correct. I don't believe my PS4 had a mandatory update, or my upgrade to the PS4 Pro. There's no technical reason why the Xbox One can't be made to 'just work' from power on. I'm not going to argue to the toss here, this clearly isn't very good
    position for users who are lacking either a decent Internet connection, or indeed a connection at all.

    I'm pretty sure the Switch doesn't need a mandatory update either. During set-up you are asked to connect to WiFi, but this can be skipped. I know, I have one of these too.

    There is a question of whether this is due to anti-piracy, or the echo system MS originally sent up for the Xbox One. Which requires, for some undetermined reason, a new machine to be online and registered their end, even if it's only during the initial
    set-up. You even need a Microsoft account just sign in, even if you have no intention of using it online. This isn't a requirement on PlayStation consoles.

    Being new to the Xbox system, you may or may not remember that when Microsoft first announced the Xbox One, it was originally planned to be always online, there was even speculation that you wouldn't even be able to trade-in disc Xbox games. Microsoft made
    a u-turn on this at launch, but the mandatory update and a Microsoft account remains unfortunately.
     
    Obsessive Power, Nov 4, 2018
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  14. brandiesel1
    brandiesel1 Guest
    It shouldn’t be much of a problem. You can use the mobile data on your phone and conmect to xbox live that way. No need to even have an internet connection in your house for set up.
     
    brandiesel1, Nov 3, 2018
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  15. Obsessive Power Win User

    Internet required??

    You can even do a quick google search along the lines of "ps4 set up no internet" that will bring you to multiple sites letting you know that internet is not required for the initial set up.
    You're correct. I don't believe my PS4 had a mandatory update, or my upgrade to the PS4 Pro. There's no technical reason why the Xbox One can't be made to 'just work' from power on. I'm not going to argue to the toss here, this clearly isn't very good
    position for users who are lacking either a decent Internet connection, or indeed a connection at all.

    I'm pretty sure the Switch doesn't need a mandatory update either. During set-up you are asked to connect to WiFi, but this can be skipped. I know, I have one of these too.

    There is a question of whether this is due to anti-piracy, or the echo system MS originally sent up for the Xbox One. Which requires, for some undetermined reason, a new machine to be online and registered their end, even if it's only during the initial
    set-up. You even need a Microsoft account just sign in, even if you have no intention of using it online. This isn't a requirement on PlayStation consoles.

    Being new to the Xbox system, you may or may not remember that when Microsoft first announced the Xbox One, it was originally planned to be always online, there was even speculation that you wouldn't even be able to trade-in disc Xbox games. Microsoft made
    a u-turn on this at launch, but the mandatory update and a Microsoft account remains unfortunately.
  16. IRB Win User

    Internet required??

    After the initial setup you can take the console offline and continue to play your disc games without a connection if you prefer. It is the initial setup that requires the connection.
  17. Obsessive Power Win User

    Internet required??

    I suggest avoiding this requirement on any future console you make
    That's not going to happen.

    The very reason the console needs an update is because without it, various pirating a modding communities would have a much easier time of getting Xbox consoles to run illegal pirated games. The same is true with PS4.
  18. aName28 Win User

    Internet required??

    I understand having internet allows the full use of games and appliances but when you make it a requirement your pushing away consumers. The playstation as far as I remember can always be used even through set up with no internet. And no its not going
    to make it easier for people to hack games, the hacked games come from pirate sites that allow you to download to disks or hardrives and are recognized on the console as a normal copy. What your thinking of is propbably people modding the consoles like they
    did with the ps3, but that required the use of internet. I bought this brick to use while i move into my new place, and now i cant until i get internet. From my side of the issue there is no reason to continue with this series of consoles when i can just go
    back to the ps4 that allows offline use. From a marketing standpoint this requirement is going to hold xbox below the playstations no matter how you want to look at it cause internet is not always readily available for all consumers
  19. Jeremy2085 Win User

    Internet required??

    Unfortunately that is just how it works.
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