IEEE New GPU Details

@f00xm4n - yes I'm pretty sure I remember hearing/seeing something about cross-hardware Xbox Live some time ago, from MS, and Windows 10 was the key component that would make it possible.

Just not sure whether it being possible would mean it will happen - politically MS may not want PC and Xbox to share Live space.

 

It would be good for the developers if they could put their all into a game that has xbox and PC as the user base, by making it DX 12.

 

I thought as the convo has some relevance to DX12 and porting PC to Xbox and vice versa I would put some links up, worth a skim/read

blogs.msdn.com/.../directx-12.aspx

gamingbolt.com/dx12-to-allow-better-use-of-cpu-cores-xbox-one-already-has-similar-api-for-freeing-up-cpu

www.developer-tech.com/.../directx-12-marrying-pc-and-xbox-one-perfect-unity

 

Xbox sempre será uma caixa cheia de segredos!!

 

I am sure those secrets will be revealed eventually, well at least those that DX12 uses.

 

Personally, I don't think there's any secrets. Not really. Certainly not when it comes to the hardware anyway. DirectX 12 will probably enable developers to get a bit more out of the hardware (likewise on PC), but I think people have to be careful not to
get their hopes up too much.

 

^i don't think its a secret sauce either, and i don't think its even DX12. i just think there is untapped territories on the X1

 

There is a whole heap of hardware in the X1 that is not even been used at the moment, dx12 will make them come to life and be easier to use for Devs that are not currently using them.

 

@Sigma I understand you not believing any secrets, but the IEEE GPU diagrams clearly show a completely different GPU then anyone had even imagined. I am not sure why people keep thinking it's the same, there is no other GPU on the market like this. This
is a huge institute that published these diagrams not some guess work from an unknown source.

I completely agree that until they produce the goods, so to speak we are still in the dark on where they are going with this GPU design, but developers and professionals have already been quoted as saying this is a huge leap in GPU design.

DX11 is only using half of the GPU (as it can only single thread) when DX12 allows it to use the dual/parallel parts its going to be fantastic.

 

A quote from Phil in Oct. of this year--

"I got asked early on by people is DX12 would change the graphics capabilities of the Xbox One and I said that it wouldn’t. I thought – and I’m not trying to rain on anybody’s parade – the CPU, GPU, memory that’s in an Xbox One doesn’t change when you go
to DX12. DX 12 makes it easier to do what the Xbox One is good at, which will be nice. You’ll see improvement in games with the use of DX12"

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blogjob.com/.../phil-spencer-on-dx12-for-xbox-one-hardware-doesnt-change-when-you-go-to-dx12

 

whats that got to do with the GPU details that have been released ?

Yes the hardware has not changed, but developers are not using the hardware that's there, as DX11 can not use multiple command processors, or draw two items at the same time. So DX12 is not going to "change the graphics capabilities" what it will do is allow
"DX 12 makes it easier to do what the Xbox One is good at"

"You’ll see improvement in games with the use of DX12"

you seem to read what you want and not whats being said.

 

I think you are reading a little too deep into it foo. All I and others are saying is don't get your hopes up, which a lot of people still believe there is something "lurking" inside the X1 that is going to magically pop up and turn the machine into a beast.

 

Fact is, we won't know until it happens. Some people want to believe the X1 is capable of a lot more, some people want to believe the X1 isn't capable of more, then some people just don't want the X1 to be anymore capable than it is now.

Personally I think there will be a noticable difference.

 

My theory as to why they moved xbox live to azure, this will enable the xbox and pc to use a joint cloud system and may possibly open up cross platform online play or other systems.

 

All we know to know is MS invested a few BILLION into the chip set design.. for it to not change or do things better?? really?

None of us here work with development or research, nor work for MS nor know ANYTHING on what this means with DX12... but what we do know.. it is a HUGE deal with MS and other corporations and you do not put this much time and effort and revenue into something
that will give it a slight bump... all things are pointed at this to be a huge upgrade.. not just for MS but for PCs overall...