I love my Xbox One, but I grow tired of defending it

A game is a game but there is a difference between Gone Home and Titanfall, for example.

 

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Indie games don't count apparently. Even though some of the best games of 2013 where indie titles. Anyone tried Papers Please on PC? I love that game.

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its not that they don't count, its the fact why would you purchase a brand new system for 400-500 dollars to play a game on it that could be played on a PS1?

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I have a 5k PC gaming rig that I use to play games that could be played on a 200 dollar laptop. I fail to see how the price of the platform determines the enjoyment or quality of the game.

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it doesn't, you obviously missed my point as well as the long replay i made prior to the one you quoted. the point is when you make that upgrade of consoles to next gen, you expect big awesome next gen games, not indie games. indie games can supplement a
good line-up but its not worthy of their own lineup. thats why the OUYA doesn't sell anything.

 

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[quote user="ocelot20"]

Indie games don't count apparently. Even though some of the best games of 2013 where indie titles. Anyone tried Papers Please on PC? I love that game.

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its not that they don't count, its the fact why would you purchase a brand new system for 400-500 dollars to play a game on it that could be played on a PS1?

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I have a 5k PC gaming rig that I use to play games that could be played on a 200 dollar laptop. I fail to see how the price of the platform determines the enjoyment or quality of the game.

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it doesn't, you obviously missed my point as well as the long replay i made prior to the one you quoted. the point is when you make that upgrade of consoles to next gen, you expect big awesome next gen games, not indie games. indie games can supplement a
good line-up but its not worthy of their own lineup. thats why the OUYA doesn't sell anything.

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I understand your point. You believe that graphics > gameplay.

The post above yours that made a comment about Gone Home and Titanfall. They are different genres but I'd prefer to see more Gone Home's than I would Titanfalls. Gone Home brings more to the table as far as originality than Titanfall does. The PC community
agrees with me because we are seeing more and more developers trying new things rather than recycling the old ideas.

 

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[quote user="Randver"]

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[quote user="ocelot20"]

Indie games don't count apparently. Even though some of the best games of 2013 where indie titles. Anyone tried Papers Please on PC? I love that game.

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its not that they don't count, its the fact why would you purchase a brand new system for 400-500 dollars to play a game on it that could be played on a PS1?

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I have a 5k PC gaming rig that I use to play games that could be played on a 200 dollar laptop. I fail to see how the price of the platform determines the enjoyment or quality of the game.

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it doesn't, you obviously missed my point as well as the long replay i made prior to the one you quoted. the point is when you make that upgrade of consoles to next gen, you expect big awesome next gen games, not indie games. indie games can supplement a
good line-up but its not worthy of their own lineup. thats why the OUYA doesn't sell anything.

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I understand your point. You believe that graphics > gameplay.

The post above yours that made a comment about Gone Home and Titanfall. They are different genres but I'd prefer to see more Gone Home's than I would Titanfalls. Gone Home brings more to the table as far as originality than Titanfall does. The PC community
agrees with me because we are seeing more and more developers trying new things rather than recycling the old ideas.

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i never said graphics > gameplay. its quite the oppoiste IMO (i love how you twist my words) my point was that i personally don't enjoy little indie games. i mena some are good but not to the point where i'll invest 500+ hours. some people love the thrill
fo beating a game over and over and having new experiance. indies are good for that. i could play and beat 500 indies in the time i'll invets in titanfall, but for me i'd rather play titanfall for taht time then beat those 500 indies. it all depends on the
indivuadual. The fact people can't respect an perosns opinion is sad. you are posting these replies to me just becuase i don't like indie games, makes you no better then me saying you suck becuase you liek indies, your just being too hypocritical too see it.
I personally do not enjoy indie games or the current offering of PS4 games, tahts my opinon and i don't try to tout it as a fact or some must follow book of law, its just the way i see things. i have no issues with those who have differing opinions becuase
thats what makes the world great. teh fact that eveyrone has different likes, dislikes etc.

 

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[quote user="Upinya Slayin"]

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[quote user="Upinya Slayin"]

[quote user="ocelot20"]

Indie games don't count apparently. Even though some of the best games of 2013 where indie titles. Anyone tried Papers Please on PC? I love that game.

[/quote]

its not that they don't count, its the fact why would you purchase a brand new system for 400-500 dollars to play a game on it that could be played on a PS1?

[/quote]

I have a 5k PC gaming rig that I use to play games that could be played on a 200 dollar laptop. I fail to see how the price of the platform determines the enjoyment or quality of the game.

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it doesn't, you obviously missed my point as well as the long replay i made prior to the one you quoted. the point is when you make that upgrade of consoles to next gen, you expect big awesome next gen games, not indie games. indie games can supplement a
good line-up but its not worthy of their own lineup. thats why the OUYA doesn't sell anything.

[/quote]

I understand your point. You believe that graphics > gameplay.

The post above yours that made a comment about Gone Home and Titanfall. They are different genres but I'd prefer to see more Gone Home's than I would Titanfalls. Gone Home brings more to the table as far as originality than Titanfall does. The PC community
agrees with me because we are seeing more and more developers trying new things rather than recycling the old ideas.

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i never said graphics > gameplay. its quite the oppoiste IMO (i love how you twist my words) my point was that i personally don't enjoy little indie games. i mena some are good but not to the point where i'll invest 500+ hours. some people love the thrill
fo beating a game over and over and having new experiance. indies are good for that. i could play and beat 500 indies in the time i'll invets in titanfall, but for me i'd rather play titanfall for taht time then beat those 500 indies. it all depends on the
indivuadual. The fact people can't respect an perosns opinion is sad. you are posting these replies to me just becuase i don't like indie games, makes you no better then me saying you suck becuase you liek indies, your just being too hypocritical too see it.
I personally do not enjoy indie games or the current offering of PS4 games, tahts my opinon and i don't try to tout it as a fact or some must follow book of law, its just the way i see things. i have no issues with those who have differing opinions becuase
thats what makes the world great. teh fact that eveyrone has different likes, dislikes etc.

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You may want to go back and read your post on page 3. I believe that you said that the PS4 releases were "fail" and the reason people with PS4's were here was because they didn't have any games to play. That's not an opinion.

Link your PS gamertag so I can see how much time you spent playing Killzone and Knack. To give an opinion that they were "fail" I assume you played them.

 

Ok I have both consoles and although its nice to have indie games like Don't Starve and F2P games like Blacklight and War Thunder they are not must haves for me. In the end they are just cluttering up my home screen and I play them from time to time when
I feel I must play PS4.

Yes the PS4 technically has more games than X1 but quantity doesn't equal quality and there is a lot of filler in there.

Biggest issue for me is I have most of the multiplatform games I want on my X1 so have no reason to pick them up again on PS4. Now that I have finished Killzone (only exclusive I was interested in), Resongun is the only real reason I turn it on right now.

Since I'm not an Infamous fan, know little about The Order and Uncharted will probably not be out until next year, I don't see this changing anytime soon. I truly hope I am wrong though as I do like the console!!

@Randver, your comment "You believe that graphics > gameplay" is a great point that rings true about a lot of the hate on these forums over the last month or so with regards to things like resolution of X1 in comparison to PS4. Resolution hasn't stopped
the games from being great fun and hasn't effected the gameplay. Just like Indie games can be great with low budgets and retro graphics.

 

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[quote user="ocelot20"]

Indie games don't count apparently. Even though some of the best games of 2013 where indie titles. Anyone tried Papers Please on PC? I love that game.

[/quote]

its not that they don't count, its the fact why would you purchase a brand new system for 400-500 dollars to play a game on it that could be played on a PS1?

[/quote]

I have a 5k PC gaming rig that I use to play games that could be played on a 200 dollar laptop. I fail to see how the price of the platform determines the enjoyment or quality of the game.

[/quote]

it doesn't, you obviously missed my point as well as the long replay i made prior to the one you quoted. the point is when you make that upgrade of consoles to next gen, you expect big awesome next gen games, not indie games. indie games can supplement a
good line-up but its not worthy of their own lineup. thats why the OUYA doesn't sell anything.

[/quote]

I understand your point. You believe that graphics > gameplay.

The post above yours that made a comment about Gone Home and Titanfall. They are different genres but I'd prefer to see more Gone Home's than I would Titanfalls. Gone Home brings more to the table as far as originality than Titanfall does. The PC community
agrees with me because we are seeing more and more developers trying new things rather than recycling the old ideas.

[/quote]

i never said graphics > gameplay. its quite the oppoiste IMO (i love how you twist my words) my point was that i personally don't enjoy little indie games. i mena some are good but not to the point where i'll invest 500+ hours. some people love the thrill
fo beating a game over and over and having new experiance. indies are good for that. i could play and beat 500 indies in the time i'll invets in titanfall, but for me i'd rather play titanfall for taht time then beat those 500 indies. it all depends on the
indivuadual. The fact people can't respect an perosns opinion is sad. you are posting these replies to me just becuase i don't like indie games, makes you no better then me saying you suck becuase you liek indies, your just being too hypocritical too see it.
I personally do not enjoy indie games or the current offering of PS4 games, tahts my opinon and i don't try to tout it as a fact or some must follow book of law, its just the way i see things. i have no issues with those who have differing opinions becuase
thats what makes the world great. teh fact that eveyrone has different likes, dislikes etc.

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You may want to go back and read your post on page 3. I believe that you said that the PS4 releases were "fail" and the reason people with PS4's were here was because they didn't have any games to play. That's not an opinion.

Link your PS gamertag so I can see how much time you spent playing Killzone and Knack. To give an opinion that they were "fail" I assume you played them.

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I didn't propose it as fact. i said a lot fo people (look aorund teh internet) have a gaming drought on the PS4, gaf has like a 30 page thread on it where a lot fo them went back to the PS3 for now and are awaiting (infmaous and driveclub) doens't mean others
can't be enjoying it. Same way you could say alot of people hate the xbox one, its true a lot of people do. it doens't stop me from enjoying it though. and also i said I dont' own a PS4, obviously you don't read, i said i will buy one when it has a good game
library. i also said i ahvent' played SF but did play KX2 and 3 at a friends house, and knack i played at a demo booth for about 5 mins and then i got bored. I neevr claimed to own either game and even flat out say i never played SF, i don't feel the need
to lie like others around here. You just don't like anyone who has a positive opinion about the xbox and thats sad. just becuase you dont' like yours doesn't mean others aren't enjoying it and having you "belittle" anyone who is enjoying it is beyond sad

 

I thought Arma was supposed to be a F2p on ps4, But I have not heard anyone talking about it.

 

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I didn't propose it as fact. i said a lot fo people (look aorund teh internet) have a gaming drought on the PS4, gaf has like a 30 page thread on it where a lot fo them went back to the PS3 for now and are awaiting (infmaous and driveclub) doens't mean others
can't be enjoying it. Same way you could say alot of people hate the xbox one, its true a lot of people do. it doens't stop me from enjoying it though. and also i said I dont' own a PS4, obviously you don't read, i said i will buy one when it has a good game
library. i also said i ahvent' played SF but did play KX2 and 3 at a friends house, and knack i played at a demo booth for about 5 mins and then i got bored. I neevr claimed to own either game and even flat out say i never played SF, i don't feel the need
to lie like others around here. You just don't like anyone who has a positive opinion about the xbox and thats sad. just becuase you dont' like yours doesn't mean others aren't enjoying it and having you "belittle" anyone who is enjoying it is beyond sad

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I've never said I don't like my One. I had several complaints about missing features and I'm not fond of the UI, those statements have somehow made me a Sony fanboy and hater of the One.

Backpeddle all you like. When you make a post that refers to two games that you have played one for five minutes and the other you never played as "fail" you aren't stating an opinion, you're bashing something of which you have no knowledge.

I have never made any comment that people shouldn't be enjoying there One. I've never bashed the One. The disagreements I've had with people here are in regards to DRM and the fact I defend misinformation regarding the PS4 which is why I'm having this discussion
with you.

 

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I thought Arma was supposed to be a F2p on ps4, But I have not heard anyone talking about it.

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That's just wishful thinking.

Neither console could run Arma 3 and considering it's a sim I don't see it getting a huge fanbase from the console run and gun crowd.

 

Closest thing I think we can hope for on the consoles would be Day Z.

 

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Closest thing I think we can hope for on the consoles would be Day Z.

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I am right there with you. I already own DayZ SA on PC but I'd love to have it on Xbox One as well!

 

I hope x1 gets that social update soon.(also off topic but I want gtao to updated with heists)

 

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I didn't propose it as fact. i said a lot fo people (look aorund teh internet) have a gaming drought on the PS4, gaf has like a 30 page thread on it where a lot fo them went back to the PS3 for now and are awaiting (infmaous and driveclub) doens't mean others
can't be enjoying it. Same way you could say alot of people hate the xbox one, its true a lot of people do. it doens't stop me from enjoying it though. and also i said I dont' own a PS4, obviously you don't read, i said i will buy one when it has a good game
library. i also said i ahvent' played SF but did play KX2 and 3 at a friends house, and knack i played at a demo booth for about 5 mins and then i got bored. I neevr claimed to own either game and even flat out say i never played SF, i don't feel the need
to lie like others around here. You just don't like anyone who has a positive opinion about the xbox and thats sad. just becuase you dont' like yours doesn't mean others aren't enjoying it and having you "belittle" anyone who is enjoying it is beyond sad

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I've never said I don't like my One. I had several complaints about missing features and I'm not fond of the UI, those statements have somehow made me a Sony fanboy and hater of the One.

Backpeddle all you like. When you make a post that refers to two games that you have played one for five minutes and the other you never played as "fail" you aren't stating an opinion, you're bashing something of which you have no knowledge.

I have never made any comment that people shouldn't be enjoying there One. I've never bashed the One. The disagreements I've had with people here are in regards to DRM and the fact I defend misinformation regarding the PS4 which is why I'm having this discussion
with you.

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And there is nothing wrong with wanting features that were in the 360, but its not liek MS didn't make it very clear what features weren't there at launch becuase tehy did. I find it hard to belkieve anyone on forums all day talking about video games, didn't
know what they were getting when buying one like yourself. we even see teh UI via leaks and demos, most people have used windows 8 at some point as well. we all knew what teh UI would be. I never said you were a sony fanboy, what i said is that you are clearly
unhappy with your xbox one and that you are a very negative person, who will try to belittle anyone who likes the X1 for some reason which i can't understand.

and i'm not back peddling anything. with knack 5 mins is more then enough. fater playing my 1ts match of titanfall (about 8 mins long) i was hooked and i knew it was a great game, even after my first 5 mins of ryse, DR3, etc i knew they were good. Knack was
just bad. all i did was jump roll attack eveyrone over and over. I know its a game i don't like. and i don't remember referring to KZ as fail, maybe it was a typo? maybe i did? but i don't remember. but i don't have to play it to know. i've playe dthe others.
for instance i played BF4, and i now know that BF5 will suck and i won't buy it. yes its not out yet, yes there isn't even a video of it, but i still know it'll suck ebcuase i know how BF plays, i know what its about, i know how the matches go and it is not
fun. Same with KZ, i played enough of 2 and 3 at a friends house to know i won't like shadowfall, and even hopping to their forums, most people agree that 2 was good but 3 and SF suck. perosnally i didn't like 2 or 3 so why would i like SF? also the online
population of under 5k people shows that its not a good game, nobody even plays it anymore and its 2 months old and there arne't many other options out for a new system.

I've nevr spread any misinformation about teh PS4, i actually never bring it up until someone comes in lying about the X1 and falsely praising the PS4, then i just set the record straight. again i will buy a PS4 and have nothing against sony, i just personally
think the games they have now are trash. its just a simple opinion

 

The only exclusive that PS4 has that I'm interested in, and it isn't even out yet, is The Order.