How powerful is the XB1?

Truth, while you are right in your assertions as far as I can tell, I resent the fact that you call consoles "stupid proof" - just because they make things easier doesn't make those of us who use the consoles "stupid" so to speak, which is what it sounds
like you may be implying (at least to some people). You can take the easiest thing in the world (whatever that is), be the smartest person in the world, and still mess it up. That's a part of human nature - we make mistakes. As an example, the Xbox One uses
voice commands to make using the console far easier, but a large portion of the community has still had issues learning those voice commands or doesn't bother altogether because it's different from what they're already accustomed to. I wouldn't call that stupid-proof.

 

@Galactic

You are absolutely right. Maybe a poor choice of words, but it's a common phrase used to imply it can't be *** up, not to insult. maybe idiot proof would have had less an impact. For the record, I think everyone is stupid, myself included. Consumers expect
consoles to be easy to use. If it isn't easy, they 'don't bother altogether' as you said. Speaking of the kinect it's at the wayside now. btw I'm not 'right', just expressing opinion.

 

Ok, Hellfire. I misread your post.

Let's just say you're right in everything b/c I misread your post and no one makes mistakes except me and everyone who you've ever argued against.

You're right...consoles are not PC b/c they are closed off systems....that was totally the point of talking about power in tech specs.

 

Its an efficient chip set. Its not built of raw power therefore many developers look at games based on how much they can throw at the hardware.

The concept is how can I use the hardware to create the experience I'm after. A lot of AAA developers on forced to look at time = loss of $ so they push to rush a game out as fast as they can and later use updates to stabilize the disaster they've released.

Can the X1 handle 1080p yes

Can the X1 handle 60FPS yes

Can the X1 handle both 1080p/60FPS, yes

Here is the issue, building a game for the X1 cannot use the approach that a game built for a PC or the PS4 so in many cases, the ESRAM and lack of understanding on the chipset put the developers at a disadvantage. They spend more time trying to get the
game to run and this leaves little time to optimize resolution and frames.

I'd like to see an SDK that takes the approach and formats it into the X1 chipset for many different old and new engines. The older engines just cant port into ESRAM.

It looks like the road is going to be a very long one unless a lot of changes are sent out to enable the devs to port things over better.

Thats the disadvantage. If it takes me 3 to 4 times longer to port an X1 vs a PS4, guess which gets more attention to detail.

<insert sad face>

 

The Xbox One is SO POWERFUL:

It can cause a virtual endless sea of complaint threads, regarding its 'shortcomings'.

It can cause people who hate MS to endlessly attack it.

It can cause people who like MS to endlessly defend it.

It has provided a nearly endless supply of troll food. In fact, I wonder how the poor things even function when they're that full. One would think they'd all be lying under their bridges in a swollen bellied coma by now.

It has caused countless forum wars.

All together now. More powerful than a locomotive! Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound...

 

^ @A Blue Illusion ahaha best post ever.

 

Well no you did read it spot on, although thanks for understanding you're the only person who makes mistakes, and everything I say is absolutely categorically correct. I'm extremely glad you've enjoyed my presentation of the facts around the performance
specification within a consoles hardware, which was completely relevant, and I'm delighted you've finally a grasped the meaning of a statement in context. Have a wonderful day!

 

[quote user="ICN3D"]The X1 and PS4, from what I'm told, are essentially an all in one AMD APU.[/quote]Prior to the reveal of the architecture, that was the assumption sites made because they wanted a baseline from which to proclaim which was "better" (Eurogamer).
Between MS's Hot Chips presentation and what Cerny has said about the PS4, that's no longer the case.

They are wrong.

The "hidden power" of a console is its long lifespan, which gives developers time to extract the most performance from the system architecture.[quote user="TruthReveal3d"]Generally
speaking those who game on PC are unimpressed.[/quote]I'm not sure people trying to play Watch_Dogs would feel that way. Ubisoft didn't bother to optimize Watch_Dogs. It eats texture memory for breakfast. The vast majority of gaming PCs out there don't have
4GB to 6GB of VRAM to hold textures. The new consoles do.

For gaming? This is the first generation where a midrange PC is the equal of a console (assuming decent texture memory management). Both the 360 and the
original XBOX had state of the art GPUs based off or preceding their PC desktop counterparts. Xenon had unified shaders before ATI put them into PC parts. NV2A had GeForce 3 features before GeForce 3 launched. Not to mention both had top of the line or near-top
of the line CPU performance.

This is the first console generation in a while where consoles are squarely second class out of the gate compared to midrange gaming PCs in terms of component pieces, but the architectural features not found on a PC will allow them to remain relevant for
five or so years, if not longer.[quote user="New Blacksmurf"]Thats the disadvantage. If it takes me 3 to 4 times longer to port an X1 vs a PS4, guess which gets more attention to detail.[/quote]Shouldn't happen. Most games aren't built from the ground up.
They use middleware/engines from third parties. Middleware and the popular engines will catch up in short order. There will be virtually no difference between the top two contenders.

 

Hello everyone

I'm not "Tech-Savvy" so I only game on consoles. With that said, I'm grateful for whatever capabilities a console has because it allows me to play games

Have a nice day or afternoon or night everyone

 

I like Blue Illusion's post too XD;

It does have a lot of horse power, and it has 8 jaguars too - that's how powerful it is aka an AMD 8-CORE JAGUAR.... APU.

It's much more powerful than the Xbox 360 in terms or RAM and processing capability and Xbox 1 has three hundred thousand Xbox Live Azure servers worldwide where as Xbox 360 only has 15,000 Xbox Live servers worldwide.

 

@Ice

I didn't say no one was impressed. By your enthusiasm with watch dogs, it should be a system seller. ultimately the proof is in the pudding. Theories on how great the games 'will be' mean nothing.