Gave X1 a shot, but it really is going to be lagging behind this Gen

I have given this system a shot (2 months) and it continually disapoints me on almost all aspects, especially in comparison to the competition. After playing Titanfall (an exclusive) and many other titles, launch and after, I have come to the conclusion
that X1 is clearly #2 in graphical performance. All these announcements of multi platform and exclusive titles coming to Xbox One with less performance (IE 720p and/or 30fps) is just going to continue. And YES, there is a huge difference between a game that
runs at 1080p 60fps vs. a game that runs 720p 60fps or a game that runs 1080p 60fps vs.a game that runs 1080p 30fps. I realize Titanfall is an Xbox exclusive, but the fact that the game is only 720p and is also an exclusive title with months and months of
extra development time, truly means they are maxing out the X1's capabilities. Yeah sure, over time they will learn tricks to get framerates up, but the bottom line is, on PS4 they don't have to.

And to those of you that keep saying "who cares about resolution and framerate, it's all about how the game plays." To you I say, what if it is the same game? Can anyone really say Battlefield 4 or Assassins Creed 4 play worse on PS4? Didn't think so. But
they sure look and perform better, which effects gameplay as well.

I am angry at Microsoft this gen, They simply dropped the ball. How in the world could they end up with the weaker system?? They have nearly endless resources at their disposal and yet the X1 is underpowered. I truly like Kinect if they would utilize it
properly, but I think X1 developers put too much of their development time into the Kinect experience and the system performance was secondary. Why didn't they just go balls out on the performance? This is Microsoft people! Why did they keep the specs on the
conservative side? Makes no sense to me. And please stop with MixterMedia or whatever he is. That is just stupid.

Anyways, I am reconsidering a PS4 purchase once again. I have had some time to sit with the system and it just feels better. Games look and run better too.

Here is a list of things that make me mad about Xbox One:

1. Kinect. For as much time as they spent talking this thing up, it is severely underutilized. You cant even take a picture with it or use it to record video messages. The best use of it so far is the "xbox record that" feature. Other than that it is totally
useless to me. Where are the character customization features, etc?

2. Controller Build quality. As an adult gamer that never broke a controller in my life, both of my X1 controllers are "breaking". My Day one has a bad left stick (weird dead spot) and the right bumper and trigger are somehow messed up where you push the
trigger and the button above it partially goes in as well. My Play and charge controller has an issue with the left stick plastic being "ground away" to a rough surface where the stick touches the casing.

3. TV integration and no Passthrough. I simply cant use the tv integration because they did not make it a passthrough. The X1 has to be on to watch TV. Fine for me, but BAD if you have a wife and kids.

4. Storage. Why cant I look at my saved games and move them, or delete them or do whatever I want to? Why can't I look at my hard drive contents? Because of this I have to start BF4 campaign from the beginning for the 5th time! Yeah, I know this is an EA
problem with that particular game, but if I simply had the ability to save my game locally it would be a non-issue.

5. Performance. It's hardware WILL struggle for the next 5-7 years running games at a comparable level to the competition. I have to ask myself, "am I ready to accept lower quality multiplatform games for the next 5-7 years?" I WISH this were not true. But
it is. I did not want to believe this for a long time. I wanted X1 to be the most powerful console or at least equal. But it is not and never will be. "Do I want to play Destiny (a title I am looking forward to) at 720p or 1080p?" The answer to that question
made my decision to reconsider the PS4.

6. No Dolby 5.1 through optical. What!?

7. Games literally take 6-8 hours to download. That is insane.

Some things I like about Xbox One:

1. It is quiet and feels well built. (except for the controllers)

2. Kinect 2.0 is amazing and Auto Sign in is cool.

3. The game clip record features.

I know I will get flamed by most of you for this post. Actually I don't even know why I am posting it. Maybe to help the few of you see the truth of the situation here. If you can afford to have both, I guess get both consoles. (thanks Halo) But if you can
only have one console and Halo isn't a deciding factor, then PS4 is a better choice if you want to play the best versions of games. ( and please, PC superior race people, no comments from you. I have a PC and it won't play any of these games)

:)

 

Games have started to lag. WTF?!

Games are lagging way to much, in some even more than last gen. What happened to the "300,000 servers" MS kept bragging about? Honestly, how is it that the 360 is better than the X1.
This is how much i hate the X1. If i could get 100 bucks off PS4 for an X1 trade in, in a heart beat.

 

why do cod games have aim assist

Anyone notice the aim assist kicks in most if their on the other side of a wall. I don't know how many time someones been shootong at me and I run for cover, LIKE YOUR SUPPOSE to DO, and they can't get a bead on me but the moment I get behind a rock or building
corner they get a head shot or just flat out kill me witht this an aim assisted shot. If we are going to have aim assist he should have got the shot when I was out in the open not when I'm behind cover. Because what would be the point of have cover in the
game if Im going to be tracked behind it and get shot through. Oh and another thing, solid rock is not bullet proof but cardboard boxes are. really????

 

[quote user="Warlok9"]And YES, there is a huge difference between a game that runs at 1080p 60fps vs. a game that runs 720p 60fps or a game that runs 1080p 60fps vs.a game that runs 1080p 30fps.[/quote]No, there isn't. At the distances the Masses sit from
their TVs the human eye cannot resolve enough detail to perceive a difference between 720p and 1080p. The only people who can "see" a difference are pixel peepers who are explicitly looking for differences using distances and techniques that don't apply to
the Masses.

MS didn't "drop" anything, they built a system designed around how people use the 360.

I do. You haven't read
the forum Code of Conduct and aren't aware comparison threads are verboten.

Really? That's funny, I could swear ACIV, BF4, and CoD Ghosts
were all available on PC, running at higher resolutions with higher framerates than their console counterparts, across the board.

To discount the PC in the discussion is to ignore the usage model of PCs - at a desk mere inches from the display. It's PC where resolution and framerate are easily perceivable. The 10' model of consoles? It's far less of a concern to anyone other than those
trolling for pageviews (Digital Foundry).

 

[quote user="IceStorm III"]

[quote user="Warlok9"]And YES, there is a huge difference between a game that runs at 1080p 60fps vs. a game that runs 720p 60fps or a game that runs 1080p 60fps vs.a game that runs 1080p 30fps.[/quote]No, there isn't. At the distances the Masses sit from
their TVs the human eye cannot resolve enough detail to perceive a difference between 720p and 1080p. The only people who can "see" a difference are pixel peepers who are explicitly looking for differences using distances and techniques that don't apply to
the Masses.

MS didn't "drop" anything, they built a system designed around how people use the 360.

I do. You haven't read
the forum Code of Conduct and aren't aware comparison threads are verboten.

Really? That's funny, I could swear ACIV, BF4, and CoD Ghosts
were all available on PC, running at higher resolutions with higher framerates than their console counterparts, across the board.

To discount the PC in the discussion is to ignore the usage model of PCs - at a desk mere inches from the display. It's PC where resolution and framerate are easily perceivable. The 10' model of consoles? It's far less of a concern to anyone other than those
trolling for pageviews (Digital Foundry).

[/quote]

Well said.

 

After playing Titanfall? Doesn't that come out on March 11? Mad time travelling skills. Can I see your TARDIS?

 

Lol? I don't think op even used the x1. I have a buddy who gave ps4 a shot and sold it. What's that say?

 

Also, as far as point 5 goes: saying that the console will struggle is ridiculous. The Xbox 360 was underpowered when compared to the PS3, but even still, at the end of their generation it matched and in some cases bested the PS3s superior hardware. While
I agree, hardware IS important, it is by no means a guaranteed measure of how the system will perform over its lifespan, and further than that, the difference in hardware is nowhere NEAR as big of a difference as it was previous generation. Your comments are
misguided, misinformed and just plain silly.

 

Ugh. Duplicate post. Can edit, but not delete apparently.

 

Another day...another troll.

 

[quote user="Merlin4421"]

Lol? I don't think op even used the x1.

[/quote]

He has plenty of uploaded gameplay clips of Battlefield 4. While some of us may disagree with aspects of his post he has used the system at least. Unlike some others.

 

Let him have his say and move on guys. If he's convinced he doesn't like it then so be it. Nothing we say will change his mind. Just another post the should disappear down the pages as we've seen it all before!

 

@ Warlok ...

I won't reply to every issue you've had, it would take too long but just remember the Xbox One will change/evolve over time with updates/patches.

People will remember what the Xbox 360 was like when it was released to how it is now but it took time. It will just require some patience, like they say .... "Rome wasn't built in a day"

As for the 720p/1080p debate. Personally whether I buy a game or not it's not decided by the resolutions, each to their own though but others have said time and time again, Xbox One can do 1080p/60fps, there's already the games out there to prove it. My guess
is a lot of developers just haven't got to grips properly with the Xbox One hardware/OS, again though with some patience and time I believe this "debate" will be a thing of the past.

As I've said though, just take Ryse: Son of Rome, in my opinion the best looking game by far on Xbox One ( and alot of others share this opinion ) so far and it's not even 1080p/60fps so this just proves that because a game is 1080p/60fps it doesn't mean it
will look better than a game that isn't.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do

 

its obvious which console is the more powerful but when you have been on xbox since the original its bloody hard to move over to ps4, i i have to say ive been hearing alot of bad things about xbox one so i will give it another 3 months before i make my decision
and if things are still the same with the xbox it could be time to mover over to ps4, i just luv my 360 controller too much as well but ive heard you can get a usb thing to use it on the ps4...this one console was released 3 months too early, we are all loyal
to microsoft so another 3 months wouldnt have hurt.

 

The console has been out two month like you said its still new so is the other console who shall not be mentioned they are both new and will take time to develop and master. How is it hard for people to understand this. What were they expecting a masterpiece
from the beginning.