GAMERTAG PRE-APPROVAL REVIEW

Apache Ear · Jun 8, 2015

In writing my post above, I did not properly consider the effect the moderator’s redaction would have on the clarity of my assertions in my June 7, 2015 post. Consequently, I’d like to expand on a few items in my above post. I will respect of the moderator’s
editing and keep the moderator-redacted format of the GTs. I know this makes no difference to my resolution of my former GT, but I think it important for those reading this and having similar experiences to understand the level of inconsistency XBLPET demonstrates.

In summary, my old GT was an 11-character string beginning with an 8 letter word that sounded like the profession of “engineer”. XBLPET determined that the first five letters (which sounds like “engine”) of that word is a derogatory term for Native Americans.
The last three letters of the first word matched the spelling of the part of the body one hears with.

Okay, so <sounds like “engine”> is derogatory to Native Americans. Fair enough. Xbox can make that determination for its service and I respect their right to do so (despite examples their support for the use of the term in other areas of their service e.g.
Call of Juarez and other western genre games). But I take issue with, having made that determination, XBLPET not being uniform in its application. There are at least two other GTs out there with identical spelling as my old GT:

The GT [Mod Removed] (an 8-letter GT which matches the first 8 letters of my former GT exactly) is OKAY and continues to exist.

The GT [Mod Removed] (a 12- character GT with “The_“ preceding the first 8 letters of my former GT) is OKAY

My old GT [Mod Removed] (an 11-character GT with “_SE” appended to the same 8-letter sequence of the above two GTs) is NOT OKAY, despite the same spelling of the key 8 letter sequence common to all three.

Miss Diggz · Oct 31, 2018

Hey there ScaryPup9881961,

The team to contact in this instance is our Enforcement team over in their specific forum. Please head on over there for any concerns or questions you may have regarding what you're experiencing. As others have previously stated in this thread, those are
the proper folks who will help to assist you further.

If you have any other Xbox Support related questions in the future, please feel free to create a new thread detailing what you're experiencing. This way you can receive support catered specifically to you from our community. Thanks in advance!

Daft Badger

I was serious.

Doesn't matter what you meant the gamertag to mean,it violates the CoC twice

Daft Badger

The last four letters of the op's old gamertag also violate the CoC so I can see two reasons why you were issued a fnc.

ngocphi

Or even simpler what you cant say infront of kids dont use it

Daft Badger

No because it depends on the context.

If you were to capitalise 3 certain letters in Assassin then it would probably get changed.

The first 5 letters of your previous tag could be the reason it was changed as well as the last four.

There's nothing any of us can do.The enforcement team will not reply to you here,if at all

Apache Ear

Smwutches:

Thanks for the clarification! Very helpful!

I have to ask, though: What does the “V” on your CUL represent?

TheJackah:

Please don’t misunderstand my question. I’m not looking to appeal the ruling. That’s done and past. The point of soliciting your opinions was to demonstrate that this is really a subjective call. And, as a result I find a bit of cognitive dissonance between
Xbox Live not providing a service for approving a GT before the client spends their money and the its policy of charging those same clients again if XBLPET later determines the GT to be “inappropriate”.

You suggested that I contact XBLPET with my question about a review and pre-approval program for Gamertags. I did that before posting here (5/31/15 PM to XBLPET). A week later and I’ve yet to receive a response to my inquiry. This comes as no surprise to
me. It took me two weeks just to get a direct and specific description on how my GT was in violation.

As I’ve stated repeatedly in my past correspondences to the XBLPET, I support respect Xbox Live's right to control the content on its service. But I also believe that the execution of those policies should be fair and consistent - as espoused in the Values
stated on the Xbox Live Policy & Enforcement home page (http://enforcement.xbox.com/). Presently, I believe that fairness and consistency is lacking.

For example, one might think that, having determined that my former GT, [Mod Removed] is inappropriate – heck, it’s so inappropriate that the moderator has/will redact it from this thread (for reference, it is a direct sound-alike of “engineer”) – there
would be no way any variation on the combination “ [Mod Removed]” would exist. I mean, XBLPET’s core value of INTEGRITY requires consistency. So, would you be surprised that three weeks my GT FNC, the following nearly identical GT’s exist: [Mod Removed]? How
it is these are different? In the present situation it's reasonable to conclude that I have been singled out. I have a genuine problem with this.

Daft Badger:

Honestly, I can’t tell if you are being serious or simply trolling me with your observation.

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For now, I’ll assume you’re serious. I’m a Structural Engineer. “S.E.” is the title suffix which follows my name in most correspondence. While I acknowledge and embrace the double entendre in my original GT, the four letter pairing you’ve suggested as some
“hidden meaning” is coincidental, offering no value to the spirit of the GT as I intended it.

When hunting monsters, you need to exercise care not to become paranoid – finding them everywhere. I find 79 complete words with the letters “ [Mod Removed]” in them. I can come up with another 1250 containing “ [Mod Removed]” (which I imagine is even less
acceptable). This includes “ambassador” (as in “Xbox Ambassador”) and “Assassin”. If you now stretch it a bit further and start pairing letter combinations *between* disparate words then… well that’s a bit beyond my interest to try and figure out.

Using your rationale, though, every GT out there with “Assassin” in it has two strikes against it. As a matter of fact, there’s a helpful individual on this very forum that meets this test. “DarkAssassin“ has provided responses to a few posts I’ve seen in
this forum. Are you suggesting that he be forced with an FNC because his name has “***” in it twice?

If not, then can I suggest that it’s better to set that particular litmus test aside?

GAMERTAG PRE-APPROVAL REVIEW