Gamertag autochanged because my real name was banned; customer service refuses to waive fee ...

Discus and support Gamertag autochanged because my real name was banned; customer service refuses to waive fee ... in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; Fyi enforcement.xbox.com will show you your enforcement history Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by FluffyFoal77882, Jul 7, 2015.

  1. ngocphi
    ngocphi Guest

    Gamertag autochanged because my real name was banned; customer service refuses to waive fee ...


    Fyi enforcement.xbox.com will show you your enforcement history
     
    ngocphi, Jul 7, 2015
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  2. Misses FluffyFoal, I would just like to add that the article that you shared regarding the forced gamertag change is from 2012. It used to be that when you got a forced gamertag change, you could change it to something else without a fee. That is what
    they are referring to about not charging the person in the article. This policy has since been changed due to too many repeat offenders abusing the system and now you are required to pay to make the change. They were not specially accommodating someone.
    It was just the normal policy.

    Also, if you have further questions you should direct them to the XBLPet in this forum.

    forums.xbox.com/.../41.aspx
     
    HomegrownSilky, Jul 7, 2015
    #17
  3. @HomegrownSilky

    Maybe you're right about the policy change. I wouldn't know because, in response to your second point - and as I've mentioned before - I've been asking about the issue on the XBLPet forum but have not received a response beyond the initial one that confirmed
    that the issue was that my name was added to a list of banned terms. I'd like to get an actual response from the enforcement team with respect to my request for a waiver, but they haven't responded. Call-in customer service says there is nothing to be done
    about it. That doesn't seem right for my culturally legitimate name being banned after I've been using it. The reasonable middle ground would seem to be (1) I agree to use another gamertag and (2) they agree not to charge me for making this one-time change.
    I'm on board, but they are not.
     
    FluffyFoal77882, Jul 7, 2015
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  4. Gamertag autochanged because my real name was banned; customer service refuses to waive fee ...

    @ngocphi

    enforcement.xbox.com does show my enforcement record. It says, and I quote, "Congratulations - you have a perfect record."
     
    FluffyFoal77882, Jul 7, 2015
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  5. davemcfly85
    davemcfly85 Guest
    yeah you cannot contact enforcement unless you are asking why you were banned or suspended or why enforcement was taken. they will just give you the copy/paste reply but will not tell you the specifics. they will just say what the others said your name
    was in violation of the rules and was changed that is all you will get from them sorry. it sucks that your name was added to a group of bad words, sometimes certain words are part of a hot topic of controversy and is why they are added to the banned list.
    there is nothing you can really do but A: keep the name you got now, or B: pay to change it there is no way to get a free name change unless it was a generated name by the system when creating a new account and you can change it for free within 30 days.
     
    davemcfly85, Oct 31, 2018
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  6. FluffyFoal77882 Win User

    Gamertag autochanged because my real name was banned; customer service refuses to waive fee for choosing a new gamertag

    I'm just trying to collect documentation of everything about my situation that I find so appalling. Here's a post entitled "Applying XBLPET's Values" from XBox Live, Policy and Enforcement, Trending news, April 2015 (see:

    http://enforcement.xbox.com/Home/WhatsHappening?id=news
    ).

    Reads the post:

    "One of the most popular expressions amongst enforcement agents is “context is king”. It’s not just a nice sound bite, but a fundamental philosophy that applies to everything we do. For instance, when we review a potentially-offensive Gamertag we always
    examine the full context. Is the Gamertag immediately offensive? What else can it potentially refer to? Does the player have a history of offensive content? Critical thinking is important, and content doesn’t always fall cleanly into “good” or “bad” categories.
    Real life comes in shades of grey."

    (1) XBox Enforcement claims that it considers "what else can [a potentially-offensive Gamertag] potentially refer to." Here is my inquiry to Xbox Enforcement: http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/xbox_360_support/f/41/t/2001509.aspx. I specifically
    inform them of what they should have already known: My gamertag makes reference to a my real name. XBox Live Enforcement's response completely ignores this.

    (2) XBox Live Enforcement claims that is specifically considers the question, "Does the player have a history of offensive content?" To date, my record shows no complaints filed against me for anything, ever.
  7. ngocphi Win User

    Gamertag autochanged because my real name was banned; customer service refuses to waive fee for choosing a new gamertag

    Fyi enforcement.xbox.com will show you your enforcement history
  8. FluffyFoal77882 Win User

    Gamertag autochanged because my real name was banned; customer service refuses to waive fee for choosing a new gamertag

    @ngocophi

    Please don't offer further comments on this topic; your comments aren't contributing anything.

    I've never engaged in hate speech. I've never been accused of engaging in hate speech. That you mention this shows that you're not attending to the facts of this case. To claim that using your culturally and legally legitimate name is hate speech is specious,
    period.

    I've been saying all along that I'm happy to comply with the gamertag policy. That you claim I should do this shows that you're not attending to the facts of this case.

    That you think that "context" in the sense invoked by XBoxlive policy isn't at issue shows that you aren't attending to the facts of this case. My name is documented as a culturally-legitimate name with an inoffensive meaning; any web search will show this.
    My name is in no way offensive in its language of origin. It is only offensive in a radically different context (another language, another culture, and another part of the world).

    That you mention that hate words offend more than one person shows that you're not attending to the facts of this case. No one has ever complained about my gamertag.

    All I've been saying is that I shouldn't have to pay for the privilege of complying with a policy that has been enforced (1) without consideration for what I've actually done (documented fact: I wasn't trying to, nor have I ever, offend anyone) and (2) when
    there is a history of accommodating users when the policy makes judgements about culturally legitimate names.
  9. ngocphi Win User

    Gamertag autochanged because my real name was banned; customer service refuses to waive fee for choosing a new gamertag

    Just for your info its not just about context hate speech is zero tolerance and a severve violation of the terma of use

    Its not allowed period no matter if its part of your name etc

    No matter the use of the word

    It offends someone in most cases hate words offend more then one person

    Keep your name clean it is that simple
  10. ngocphi Win User

    Gamertag autochanged because my real name was banned; customer service refuses to waive fee for choosing a new gamertag

    That second part doesnt apply unless repeat offences or for perm ban.

    Hate speach ia actually banned in most countries and inxlude jailtime

    Mahbe you should consider others sensitiblities

    And note in your article it was never updared as the policy is actually pretty clear

    You do not want part2 if you do not follow the rules and have repeat offences of the naming rules a forced name change will be the least of your worries

    Multiple violations of the naming rulea cna incur a perm ban of the said account
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