Flawed Reputation system - stuck in avoid me and good player simultaneously

Discus and support Flawed Reputation system - stuck in avoid me and good player simultaneously in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; And yes you can recover by playing non party games or privately with friends and hope they don't think your unsportmanlike behaviour is bad Because... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by Spartanxxx, Aug 11, 2016.

  1. ngocphi
    ngocphi Guest

    Flawed Reputation system - stuck in avoid me and good player simultaneously


    And yes you can recover by playing non party games or privately with friends and hope they don't think your unsportmanlike behaviour is bad

    Because more reports will only slow you down

    And recovery isn't instant never winter or any mmorpg that doesn't rely on matchmaking will make matches easier
     
    ngocphi, Aug 12, 2016
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  2. ngocphi
    ngocphi Guest
    Friends will onky be able to be 4 against each other since you would have to be invited into a party match

    Or you can continue with your current rep and play with the other bad sportmans I'm sure you don't want thst
     
    ngocphi, Aug 12, 2016
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  3. Spartanxxx
    Spartanxxx Guest
    First of all, please use a single reply for your posts.

    Getting blocked does certainly negatively affect your reputation. See here: "Recently, however, we noticed that some players were using blocks to avoid playing against upstanding players, as well as negatively impact their rep, specifically in ranked play.
    As this was never the intent of the system, the Xbox team has pushed out a recent update that will ignore player blocks in the following (ranked) MCC playlists" (source:

    www.halowaypoint.com/.../halo-community-update-8-21-15
    )

    "For example, we recently realized that “Avoid this player” was wreaking havoc on matchmaking. One of the best Widowmaker players in the world complained to us about long queue times. We looked into it and found that hundreds of other players had avoided
    him (he’s a nice guy – they avoided him because they did not want to play against him, not because of misbehavior). The end result was that it took him an extremely long time to find a match. The worst part was, by the time he finally got a match, he had been
    waiting so long that the system had “opened up” to lower skill players. Now one of the best Widowmaker players was facing off against players at a lower skill level. As a result, we’ve disabled the Avoid system (the UI will go away in an upcoming patch). The
    system was designed with the best intent. But the results were pretty disastrous." (source:

    us.battle.net/.../20745504371
    )

    I'll describe to you what is happening in a large amount of detail because you seem to think "play nice" is the only solution to this unfair system:

    - I played Overwatch exclusively

    - Overwatch is a 6v6 FPS

    - I played only with a full team for every game

    - Every single player that was on my team, was a friend and there were no issues in our interactions (see your comment about boasting, not communicating, lack of teamwork, showboating, unsportsmanship)

    - My team won games a lot

    - As you win an rank up, you play against other players in the same skill area (no competitive ranking, quick play)

    - My team faced other teams multiple times, as in we played against the same people over and over)

    - The other team avoids me because they do not want to matchmake against me anymore. (see above link #2)

    - There is no voice communication with the enemy team in-game so there is no trash talking

    - Because I was avoided by players of similar skill, our team ended up playing teams that were even lower skill, and crushed them too, causing more and more blocks

    Playing non-party games is not an option to improve reputation, as you must play with more random players and not get blocked in order to restore reputation. I tried Neverwinter and the Avoid Me status carries over into trying to form groups. I sat in matchmaking
    for over an hour without a single person getting matched.

    The overall issue at hand is that players are abusing the block system in order to circumvent playing against stronger opponents. Blocking a player does indeed hurt their reputation, and good players are getting punished, hard. Your solution to "play nice"
    means that in order to maintain a high level of reputation, I need to lose games on purpose so that people are willing to play against me again. This breaks all the intention of what a competitive game is supposed to be. In these games that we play, there
    is supposed to be a winner and a loser. The winners should not be punished because the losers don't like losing.

    TL;DR: The notion of "playing nice" does not work with the current blocking system. Player blocks are valid, but it should not hurt the reputation of the blocked player - that is what reports are for.
     
    Spartanxxx, Aug 13, 2016
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  4. Flawed Reputation system - stuck in avoid me and good player simultaneously

    SpartanXXX,

    "There is no voice communication with the enemy team in-game so there is no trash talking"

    Trashtalking can be done inparty chat, messages and other communication methods.

    I am sure you read this
    enforcement.xbox.com/.../HowTo


    Sign in here
    enforcement.xbox.com/.../reputation


    see your Reputation broken down into three different categorizes Fair Play, Communication and User Content.

    I am sure you have also viewed this page?
     
    ISirProdigy007, Aug 13, 2016
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  5. Spartanxxx
    Spartanxxx Guest
    Spartanxxx, Aug 13, 2016
    #20
  6. Spartan online its saying your account is good player!
     
    ISirProdigy007, Aug 13, 2016
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  7. Spartanxxx
    Spartanxxx Guest
    That's why the title of this thread is what it is.
     
    Spartanxxx, Aug 13, 2016
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  8. Spartanxxx
    Spartanxxx Guest

    Flawed Reputation system - stuck in avoid me and good player simultaneously

    Edit: I see what you mean now. I am indeed back to good reputation. I still do want to keep attention on this topic for anyone else that is a victim of the avoid player abuse.
     
    Spartanxxx, Aug 13, 2016
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  9. Yes I see, no way would only two reports would do that. hopefully official support would chime in.

    one weird situation you're in.
     
    ISirProdigy007, Aug 13, 2016
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  10. Spartanxxx
    Spartanxxx Guest
    As I said previously, it's the blocking that hurts reputation. And the enforcement website does not show how many times you have been blocked, just the reports.
     
    Spartanxxx, Aug 13, 2016
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  11. Blocking isn't mention in this information websitepage here
    enforcement.xbox.com/.../howto


    wouldn't think they add it, if affected reputation on the xbox one?
     
    ISirProdigy007, Aug 13, 2016
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  12. Debrimba
    Debrimba Guest
    Spartan, you're wasting your time. I've been stuck on "avoid me" for four months now and nobody is helping. Playing games isn't helping. Calling support and posting on the enforcement forums hasn't helped either. What I don't understand is that my friends
    posted on the enforcement forums and got their reputations fixed but I have yet to so any improvement. THEIR reputations were fixed despite what the guy in this thread is telling you.
     
    Debrimba, Aug 13, 2016
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  13. Debrimba
    Debrimba Guest

    Flawed Reputation system - stuck in avoid me and good player simultaneously

    Never mind. It seems that your problem's been fixed. I still can't play any online games because of my reputation...
     
    Debrimba, Aug 13, 2016
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  14. Spartanxxx
    Spartanxxx Guest
    I agree that the system is definitely broken. It took at least 3 months for my rep to be restored. I am not giving up on bringing the issue to peoples attention.
     
    Spartanxxx, Aug 13, 2016
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  15. Debrimba
    Debrimba Guest
    Thank you. I'm seemingly the only person I know who still has this problem. Everyone else who was avoided has gotten their reputation fixed. I'm really losing hope.
     
    Debrimba, Aug 13, 2016
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