Feeling a bit let down and taken advantage of.

Discus and support Feeling a bit let down and taken advantage of. in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; Let me start by saying I drank the Microsoft Cool-Aide more than two and a half decades ago and have been a proud member of the X-Box Live community... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by FaeWraith113, Jan 16, 2014.

  1. FaeWraith113
    FaeWraith113 Guest

    Feeling a bit let down and taken advantage of.


    Let me start by saying I drank the Microsoft Cool-Aide more than two and a half decades ago and have been a proud member of the X-Box Live community for almost exactly nine years. I have always been a PC man, and am old enough to remember when MS-DOS was
    sexy. Sure, I had a flirtation with the original Macintosh, but I always came home to MS. I have believed in what Microsoft has been doing, apart from the rapacious profit seeking, in the digital world. I owned, used, and loved a Zune. Need I say more?

    Needless to say, I was really excited to hear the announcements of the coming Xbox One with its role as a multimedia center for the 21rst century home. I have been dreaming of just such a thing for many years. I already had my 360 humming along streaming
    video, photo, and most importantly, music from my home PC network, and couldn't wait to add live TV from my cable provider and have a really dedicated system to handle it. What made my decision to invest in an One early in it's release easy was knowing that
    the one thing they couldn't possibly screw up was the truly excellent party and chat system they had nearly perfected in the original Xbox and the subsequent 360. I was wrong.

    How, oh how could you folks mess something so simple up? There was plenty of room for improvement in so may areas but y'all had perfected and won me over with the chat and parties. I know the early days of a platform are rough, but I don't remember the
    360 being so limited, so far under both its hype, and potential. What follows is a list of what I would like to see improved, and then a bit more closing diatribe.

    1. Above all else please fix the party and chat system for all of the reasons listed by other posters above. Use the 360 system as your starting point, there was no reason to re-invent the wheel. I need to be able to press a button a quickly see who is
    online, and would like the rest of the features of the Guide menus back. It seems you are trying to make the Home screen the new guide, but having to leave a game, or at least minimize it, is annoying. Obviously, fix the turn chat on issue. Really, I assume
    you folks can breath and walk so I'm not really sure how that was not obvious in the first place.

    2. Please allow me to access my stored media content on my other devices. Microsoft has encouraged us to go digital for years, and I listened. Now their flagship console won't let me access it without telling my music to play from my laptop. REALLY?!?
    I am not going to pay you more money to have a service I don't want so I can story my content on your Cloud. Frankly, I don't trust you with it. The 360 did this pretty well, with a few annoying glitches so just talk to those other folks and get his sorted,
    pronto.

    3. Decades ago some person invented a remote control that worked by changing the channel on T.V. as soon as one pressed a button on said remote. Just like that, press the button, and changed channel. Now, I say Xbox, then I say it again to make it actually
    listen. Then I have to tell it the channel twice to get it to understand, twice if I am lucky. Once it gets it, and then sends the number for the channel to the cable box one digit at a time, it still takes a second or two to change channels. Then, if it's
    Fox, not for the news to be clear, the channel is there. If it's Fox, it stays frozen for up to 30 seconds. To recap, we have gone from instantaneous television control which has been available forever, to a mandatory two to 35 second wait once the button
    has been pressed. Could someone please explain the decision tree involved in this process?

    4. I think I know why you did it, but it would be really swell if we could still talk to the folk on 360 live.

    5. I am truly upset about the non-backwards compatibility feature. My family and I actually play old games and not having them accessible to a "one home system" is still bothersome. At least make them available digitally from this platform please.

    I do like many things about the One, and undeniably the few games out there look really nice. I like the voice control features and I know they will get better. I accept that this console is in its infancy and those are noisy, troublesome, and messy times.
    What I am having trouble with is feeling lied to, and then ignored and fed more pablum. The console is a baby, not me, and that's no way to treat even a baby.

    As a closing thought. I am a parent of children who will be gamers, and will also be far more media savvy than me. Right now, millions of families like mine are building game system brand loyalty in our children just like we do with detergents and paper
    towel brands. I am the buying power now, they will be so for the next forty years. Can you, Microsoft, really afford to loose that much of the market for so long to your competitors who are managing to launch impressive systems right now that actually deliver
    what they promise? Please fulfill the One's promise quickly or you will lose my support and money at the very least.

    :)
     
    FaeWraith113, Jan 16, 2014
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  2. Natsuko Mogi
    Natsuko Mogi Guest
    Feeling Let Down?

    I will when MW3 come out, I will join MW3 later. Many people will leave this forum. I had fun with this game. Prestige 1 was a mistake. I prestige and regret it. I hope token is useful.
     
    Natsuko Mogi, Jan 16, 2014
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  3. apna style
    apna style Guest
    Feeling Let Down?

    [quote user="dual skorpionz"]

    [quote user="Natsuko Mogi"]

    Why not trade in game for money back? I have not seen modder yet. Lag switching is very evil. I know I am not best player. If I beat you would you say I am cheating with my .58 K/D?

    [/quote]

    It was his brave and unselfish attempt to rid the world of bad video games.
    I wish I had millions of dollars to throw around, I'd preorder like 500 copies of MW3...then immediately put them in a trash compactor. Success!

    [/quote] would the devs and publishers really care ?
     
    apna style, Jan 16, 2014
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  4. Burnin TODI
    Burnin TODI Guest

    Feeling a bit let down and taken advantage of.

    If you have an all in one remote, you should be able to program it for xbox one (my harmony one did)......my remote works great as an alternate to using the game controller or kinect....the console is very good at picking up IR signals (as opposed to the
    360, which had a small IR sensor on it)....about BC and cross console chat, you probably should have researched a little, these were known about many many months ago.....the party/chat stuff is being worked on....hang in there, many improvements to come.
     
    Burnin TODI, Jan 16, 2014
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  5. IceStorm III
    IceStorm III Guest
    IceStorm III, Jan 16, 2014
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  6. CAMARO Xlll
    CAMARO Xlll Guest
    Everyone wants 1 and 2. 3, 4 and 5 we're not advertised features of the console so I am not sure why you expected those features. (Even though burnin said he still got 3 to work). If Microsoft messed something "so simple" up, would you care to give us a
    demo of your all in one home console? I would love to see it! Please don't judge it because of a few flaws. It's an amazing system!
     
    CAMARO Xlll, Jan 17, 2014
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  7. [quote user="FaeWraith113"] Use the 360 system as your starting point, there was no reason to re-invent the wheel.[/quote]

    I will agree that the party chat needs refinement, but they have opted to use an app system this time around which requires completely new programming. It is unlikely they could just port over the original structure otherwise I think they would have done so.

    Agreed. Would be nice to just plug in a USB stick and done. Though there are some ways around this via streaming methods.

    I think they should buy Xbox One's. I don't really need to talk to people who play on a different console. It's not benefiting my gaming experience on the Xbox One.

    I don't see backwards compatibility as a mandatory feature. It's never been one and was pretty much abandoned because it just wasn't worth the time and money being put into it.
     
    Unreal Warfare, Jan 17, 2014
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  8. Feeling a bit let down and taken advantage of.

    They might as well not call the console an All in One console If it doesn't play mp3-4, isn't backwards compatible, doesn't have voice messages, doesn't have bios mottos etc.. cannot be connected to cable television, requires Skydrive with 8gig upload limit
    then MORE FEEs so I can watch my digital movies, doesn't have an arcade marketplace nor indie marketplace nor gamer pic marketplace. The list goes on.

    Since each game is about a 30gig install and the console has just 500 gigs in it, will we then have to pay even more ridiculous amounts of money to buy cloud storage so we can play the 16th game that we just paid for with more money?
     
    El Tommy Gunn, Oct 31, 2018
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  9. CAMARO Xlll Win User

    Feeling a bit let down and taken advantage of.

    Everyone wants 1 and 2. 3, 4 and 5 we're not advertised features of the console so I am not sure why you expected those features. (Even though burnin said he still got 3 to work). If Microsoft messed something "so simple" up, would you care to give us a
    demo of your all in one home console? I would love to see it! Please don't judge it because of a few flaws. It's an amazing system!
  10. Burnin TODI Win User

    Feeling a bit let down and taken advantage of.

    If you have an all in one remote, you should be able to program it for xbox one (my harmony one did)......my remote works great as an alternate to using the game controller or kinect....the console is very good at picking up IR signals (as opposed to the
    360, which had a small IR sensor on it)....about BC and cross console chat, you probably should have researched a little, these were known about many many months ago.....the party/chat stuff is being worked on....hang in there, many improvements to come.
  11. IceStorm III Win User

    Feeling a bit let down and taken advantage of.

  12. Unreal Warfare Win User

    Feeling a bit let down and taken advantage of.

    [quote user="FaeWraith113"] Use the 360 system as your starting point, there was no reason to re-invent the wheel.[/quote]

    I will agree that the party chat needs refinement, but they have opted to use an app system this time around which requires completely new programming. It is unlikely they could just port over the original structure otherwise I think they would have done so.

    Please allow me to access my stored media content on my other devices.
    Agreed. Would be nice to just plug in a USB stick and done. Though there are some ways around this via streaming methods.

    I think I know why you did it, but it would be really swell if we could still talk to the folk on 360 live.
    I think they should buy Xbox One's. I don't really need to talk to people who play on a different console. It's not benefiting my gaming experience on the Xbox One.

    I am truly upset about the non-backwards compatibility feature.
    I don't see backwards compatibility as a mandatory feature. It's never been one and was pretty much abandoned because it just wasn't worth the time and money being put into it.
  13. El Tommy Gunn Win User

    Feeling a bit let down and taken advantage of.

    They might as well not call the console an All in One console If it doesn't play mp3-4, isn't backwards compatible, doesn't have voice messages, doesn't have bios mottos etc.. cannot be connected to cable television, requires Skydrive with 8gig upload limit
    then MORE FEEs so I can watch my digital movies, doesn't have an arcade marketplace nor indie marketplace nor gamer pic marketplace. The list goes on.

    Since each game is about a 30gig install and the console has just 500 gigs in it, will we then have to pay even more ridiculous amounts of money to buy cloud storage so we can play the 16th game that we just paid for with more money?
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