False reports caused "Avoid me" rep - Reputation system is easily abused.

Discus and support False reports caused "Avoid me" rep - Reputation system is easily abused. in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; I am far from the perfect human being, I'm guilty of taking gaming too seriously during some moments of my life. There have been moments were I have... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by Qualedog, May 15, 2017.

  1. Qualedog
    Qualedog Guest

    False reports caused "Avoid me" rep - Reputation system is easily abused.


    I am far from the perfect human being, I'm guilty of taking gaming too seriously during some moments of my life. There have been moments were I have risen to trash talk and responded accordingly. Yes I know that trash talking can be offensive to some, but
    its easy to forget yourself and engage in it despite the fact. However I have various reports made against me that are simply false, designed only to lower my reputation to prevent me playing. The only online game I play on xbox live is Gears of War and the
    gears 4 fanbase are extremely volatile. I play on PC, and the PC is extremely unpopular amongst the console gamers whom believe that all PC gamers are cheaters and hackers. However I believe i have been falsely reported with the following;

    1. I have 44 reports for unsporting conduct. This just make no sense to me, especially after i investigated what is considered to be unsporting conduct. I always play the objective, I never team kill and I never make use of glitches to allow myself the upperhand.
      I do not "t-bag" players (There may have been moments where I have, but only when said players have done the same to me, or messaged me being abusive) and I definitely don't message players criticising their gameplay. 44 reports for unsporting conduct is too
      excessive, and while some may be legitimate reports the majority have been placed against me because players cannot accept losing. This is made worse by the fact that I play on PC, where many console gamers will believe that I am cheating if i get a kill or
      play well.
    2. I have 21 reports for cheating. Ive never used glitches in gears 4 (not sure if any even exist) nor do I hack (because its stupid, I love the game and I wouldnt risk being banned just to be an idiot.) If I was stupid enough to hack, then I would've been
      banned, because this is against the code of conduct.) Thats how I can prove without a doubt that these reports are nothing but false. They have been placed against me by players I have legitimately killed or beaten So thats 21 reports for cheating that have
      simply been made against me because ive won a game or killed someone and theyve seen I play on PC. I can affirm this on the basis that I do not use hacks and there are no glitches on gears 4 that give players any unfair advantages. Without hacks or glitches,
      how could I have possibly cheated?
    3. I have 16 reports made against me for voice communication. How could this possibly be? If I talk to someone that I dont know it is 100% of the time via text communication. The only time I use my mic is in a party chat with friends. So where does 16 reports
      come from? How could I legitimately have 16 reports made against me for voice communication when I never use my microphone in game chat? Nor do I send players voice messages because I use my keyboard to type!
    4. I have 3 reports made against my gamertag.. "" My gamerpic refers to a character from a cartoon show called "Doug the Cartoon". Even if someone did not know this, Quale (Quail) is a bird and dog is a dog. I fail to see what is offensive about this
      name? These reports are clearly false reports and the reputation system regards them as legitimate reports, thus lowering my rep further. How can these reports be viewed as legitimate in any way?
    5. I have 3 reports made against my gamerpic. I have used two custom gamerpics since the ability to use custom gamerpics became accessible. I used a picture of Bruce willis from Die hard 4.0, and I am now using a picture of marcus fenix from gears of war 1,
      famously known as the "Seriously" gamerpic. I failed to see how this is offensive to anyone? Also, if this was an offensive or obscene gamerpic then microsoft would have prevented me from using it. I know this because they review a picture before they let
      you use it.
    I will conclude by saying, am I the perfect gamer? hardly. I am guilty of the same offenses that any gamer under the sun is guilty of. But I am by no means a players that goes out of my way to ruin the experience for others. The reports made against me were
    made by people that report players better than them. They do this because they know it will prevent said players from matching up with them. Whatever happened to the days where players played to improve instead of just reporting players that win against them?

    Yes I understand that the reputation system will filter out "bad" players, and I agree with that completely. However, I hope this problem can be rectified, because the abuse of the reputation system affects more than just me, it has the potential to affect
    countless xbox gamers. The reputation is clearly easy to abuse and who knows how many gamers will be forced into "avoid me" for doing nothing but playing and winning games.

    Also, I have seen this idea that people have to "change their behaviour". How can someone change their behaviour when there is nothing wrong with what they are doing? This reputation system basically allows someone to play a game, if they lose all they have
    to do is report someone and they wont get matched up with them again. Seriously i ask this.. What has happened to online gaming? Why is the reputation system pandering to the sensitivity of gamers that cant stand to lose? Who can't just accept a loss and move
    on from it?

    Online gaming is in trouble..

    :)
     
    Qualedog, May 15, 2017
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  2. Mister Beep
    Mister Beep Guest
    False reports caused "Avoid me" rep - Reputation system is easily abused.

    Hey there,



    We're unable to assist with Enforcement related inquiries, including Reputation, here on the Xbox Support forums. The primary place for further information will be our Xbox
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    If you have any other Xbox Support questions, please feel free to post up a new thread.



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    Mister Beep, May 15, 2017
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  3. Daft Badger
    Daft Badger Guest
    Daft Badger, May 15, 2017
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  4. ngocphi
    ngocphi Guest

    False reports caused "Avoid me" rep - Reputation system is easily abused.

    you don't get it still do yoi

    It's not your opinion that counts

    It's the opinion of others

    Trashtalking is a legitimate complaint

    And FYI not every report is flagged as valid you do realize that righr? 16 bad rep reports is more then enough to put you in avoid me

    The reputation report shows you what people are complaining about you and what you need to fix

    If you have 16 trashtalking reports maybe you should fix your behaviour it's not rocket science

    The reports will show on your rep panel regardless if it's valid or not

    However it doesn't meant all actually affect your score

    As mentioned 16 bad reports is more then enough to put you under and the 44 unsportmanlike behaviour you do realize that includes trashtalking righr?.people may have just filed it under unsportmanlike behaviour

    And the way you are acting on forums only proves the point calling everyone who report you sore losers is bad sportmanship

    Unsportmanlike behaviour is anything that doesn't show respect for your opponents and teammates

    This includes trashtalking, making fun of , ingame actions, even talking about people with disrespect etc etc you are missing the point of unsportmanlike behaviour and isn't limited to these things

    Any coach or team will tell you this

    I donno why you don't get what sportsmanlike behaviour is you learn this in school or watching TV sports this should be ingrained into you

    A true great sportman has respect for their fellow persons regardless of win or loss that is what sportsmanship is allout
     
    ngocphi, May 15, 2017
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  5. Qualedog
    Qualedog Guest
    i do respect others thats why I dont trash talk. I have been stupid enough to respond to people that message me at certain times but the majority of the time I dont speak to others, win or lose. In fact even when I moved over onto pc all I would ever say
    to someone is "glhf" (Good luck have fun) or gg (good game)

    Also I fail to understand where youre coming from. How does my post confirm that I am unsporting? How would you feel if people reported you for winning or killing them and this meant that the membership you paid for is effectively going to waste.

    Im sorry for being annoyed that the rep system works on the opinion of others. All that means is I can kill someone or win a game and as long as someone THINKS im cheating or being unsporting then my rep is lowered

    How is that fair?
     
    Qualedog, May 16, 2017
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  6. ngocphi
    ngocphi Guest
    Reports on your gamer tag have no bearing in your rep that's an enforcement issue nor do you see any complaints unless enforcement action is actually taken
     
    ngocphi, May 16, 2017
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  7. Qualedog
    Qualedog Guest
    Well I can easily see that my gamertag and gamerpic have both been reported 3 times each, and It is quite clear that neither gamerpic or gamertag are offensive in any way

    I pride myself in doing all that I can to play fair and show sportsmanship towards everyone I play with. My point stands that I cannot clean up my behaviour because I dont have bad behaviour

    I also cannot believe that cheating and unsporting reports are reviewed by people because if that was the case I wouldnt be having this issue.
     
    Qualedog, Nov 1, 2018
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  8. Mister Beep Win User

    False reports caused "Avoid me" rep - Reputation system is easily abused.

    Hey there,



    We're unable to assist with Enforcement related inquiries, including Reputation, here on the Xbox Support forums. The primary place for further information will be our Xbox
    Enforcement page
    while signed-in.



    If you have any other Xbox Support questions, please feel free to post up a new thread.



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  9. Daft Badger Win User

    False reports caused "Avoid me" rep - Reputation system is easily abused.

  10. Daft Badger Win User

    False reports caused "Avoid me" rep - Reputation system is easily abused.

    Support have given you the wrong information.They often tell people to post on the forums when they can't help or don't know what to do which they shouldn't.

    Rep is nothing at all to do with support so there is nothing anyone here can do other than direct you to the page I've linked.

    False reports have no effect on your rep,if they did then there would be millions of people complaining.

    In fact anyone who abuses the reporting system,like filing a lot of false reports,risks enforcement action on their account themselves.

    Free games like Star Trek Online,Neverwinter,Trove & World of Tanks will help improve your rep but it will take time.

    No one will reset your rep for you.Only you can improve your rep.
  11. Qualedog Win User

    False reports caused "Avoid me" rep - Reputation system is easily abused.

    Xbox support told me to post this here my friend. I can't improve my rep because im unable to join games online. The point of the thread is to make it aware that false reporting is a very real thing.

    Xbox support are doing all they can to help me at the moment.
  12. Daft Badger Win User

    False reports caused "Avoid me" rep - Reputation system is easily abused.

    I didn't say false reports don't exist.

    I said they have no effect on your rep,the same way they have no effect on whether you get a suspension.ban or not.

    Maybe read what I posted before accusing me of not reading your post.

    You have been told what to do & where to go,there is nothing else to add.
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