explanations about colours gamma

Discus and support explanations about colours gamma in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; Can anyone explain me why Microsoft's XboxOne and OneS completly output the wrong gamma? So, what i have to do now with my 1k Monitor studio perfectly... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by Shein54, Apr 15, 2017.

  1. Shein54
    Shein54 Guest

    explanations about colours gamma


    Can anyone explain me why Microsoft's XboxOne and OneS completly output the wrong gamma? So, what i have to do now with my 1k Monitor studio perfectly tuned up that won't show anyway the right colours with ur xbox one? 2017 still no answer, still nothing,
    still bugged.

    :)
     
    Shein54, Apr 15, 2017
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  2. Catherine's blacks are washed out..

    I don't have much to offer in the way of an explanation. As a possible way to deal with it though (and probably something you've done) have you tooled around with the video levels in the game's options (gamma, brightness, etc)
     
    InCaudaVenenum, Apr 15, 2017
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  3. SandM1tch
    SandM1tch Guest
    Reference Levels and HDMI Color Space Settings

    The most optimal settings are RGB, 1080p, and 1.9 gamma. Over time, I've learned that the 360 does an extra gamma conversion step after the sRGB gamma correction step. This is called Piece-wise Linear gamma correction or Xenon Gamma. It falls somewhere between
    1.9 and 2.0 gamma so if you can calibrate close to 1.9 since black levels are the offset issue, then the 360's picture will look near perfect. So i use 1.9 gamma for Xbox 360 and 2.2 gamma for my PC using my LG's gamma setting.
     
    SandM1tch, Apr 15, 2017
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  4. explanations about colours gamma

    Yes, gamma is wrong and i can notice this problem on my oled. And if you choose 10bit colors the blacks raise a little.
     
    Matteo Guichardaz, Aug 3, 2017
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  5. Matteo Guichardaz Win User

    explanations about colours gamma

    Yes, gamma is wrong and i can notice this problem on my oled. And if you choose 10bit colors the blacks raise a little.
  6. Zacabeb Win User

    Xbox Colour Space Explanation?

    It's hard to say, but my first guess would be that the video quantization range indicated by the Xbox 360 is wrong. When switching to YCbCr, the quantization is implicitly limited range by virtue of the ITU-R BT recommendations, and the display ignores the
    parameter indicating it.

    .

    Given how many strange problems there are now with the HDMI behavior on the Xbox 360, it seems possible that it might output full range RGB even when levels are set to Standard. I must admit I've completely lost track by now of how the system handles levels
    between playback sources and output, and if it behaves differently from time to time.
  7. Zacabeb Win User

    Xbox Colour Space Explanation?

    The improvement most provably has to do with the YPbPr BT.709 setting forcing the Xbox 360 to recalculate the output to limited range levels (16...235), which many tv's expect. When set to RGB and Expanded, the Xbox 360 outputs levels as full range (0...255),
    which causes too high contrast and incorrect midtones unless the tv expects levels to be full range.

    .

    Normally the source should indicate to the display whether the output is limited range or full range letting it switch to handle either correctly, but the Xbox 360 doesn't indicate it properly because of bad coding.
  8. Zappybazinga Win User

    Xbox Colour Space Explanation?

    Which is what I figured, but wouldn't putting the Samsung in PC mode with HDMI level set to Normal mean the TV is expecting a full range?

    Also using RGB and Limited did not help my picture, which should be the same.

    Which is why I don't get why merely selecting YCbCr fixes all the issues where every combination of RGB doesn't?
  9. InCaudaVenenum Win User

    Catherine's blacks are washed out..

    I don't have much to offer in the way of an explanation. As a possible way to deal with it though (and probably something you've done) have you tooled around with the video levels in the game's options (gamma, brightness, etc)
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