December 12th SDK improves esram control

lets all remember DX12 is not just 3d its also Direct Audio, Direct 3D and many other sub parts. The CPU benefit is the widely know benefit as this is a benefit to current PC's and multicore devices such as tablets (specifically surface) They are not releasing
all the Direct 3D details yet as people hold off buying 3D cards hence the NDA's put in place by AMD.

Microsoft have spoken about xbox hardware support for things such as hardware tiled resources, Pipeline state objects, Command lists and bundles, Descriptor heaps and tables, deferred shading, virtual GPU.

To come on this forum and say Microsoft put low budget PC parts in their APU is a pure troll, when we know for a fact MS spent 3billion on R&D for thier APU and Sony spent 300million. MS have already said their APU is heavily modified just look at the cache
used on the shader cores each core has L1 cache and the PS4 shares it between 3 cores, then there is a direct link to super fast 32MB of esram which real world performance doubles that of the one chunk shared between CPU and GPU in the PS4. Go educate yourself
before trolling here dude.

:)

 

An insider's input on tiled Resources.

As the SDKs continue to update, the use of ESRAM will be seamless.

 

Titanfall confirmed to run at 792p

yeah I am actually happy about this cheers UW, same res as beta which I loved, and a promise that they are developing it in the future to improve it even more. Wonder if they will get advance use of DX12 SDK tools and a further confirmation of possible res
changes. Very intresting to see that the implication was they were not using esram and still managing higher res then other first party multiplayer games.

 

lets not forget xbox one will use DX12 ps4 will not

 

True, but a lot of people might say that the PS4 doesn't need it - I so hope they're wrong, because I for 1 would love to see the XB1 begin to outshine the competition and do exactly what the 360 did against the PS3 back in the day.

 

OMG a console comparison from GG, please say it isnt so!!

 

I knew somebody was going to say something about that.

 

lol, its all in good fun

 

GG the PS4 has in some instances better resolution, but how they get there is a different matter, DF aside there are more sites doing independent comparisons and are picking out alarming texture problems on the PS4 to allow it to get to these higher resolutions.
I have many examples but lets not turn this thread into a comparison and have it blocked.

The reason for the better handling of textures on the xbox one is the ESRAM as your looking at over 200GB/s bandwidth while CPU and GPU are working away (real working code) however the draw backs are developers were trying to render the whole screen in ESRAM
and not stream it (which the november SDK unlocked from preview) aka tiled resources, the other very interesting leak was the xbox can choose which parts of the screen and memory to use. for example you could use main memory for the bottom 15% and the top
15% of screen (usually ground and sky) and 70% in ESRAM.

 

f00x i think u just lost GG lmao

 

Please keep in mind that comparisons aren't allowed. Thank you.

 

^ yea GG bear that in mind! ;-)

 

looks like GDC this year is hopefully going to put some of these questions to rest, have you seen the amount of lectures and talks Microsoft is involved in, it's huge. We also have the xbox DX12 team wanting to talk to TiC after Brad did a really good podcast.
Hopefully they may spill some beans

 

So all I have gathered from this thread is that nobody knows for sure how dx12 is going to improve games? Or did I miss something?

 

F00, when is all this happening? Dates?