Crushed blacks on full RGB monitor or TV

Discus and support Crushed blacks on full RGB monitor or TV in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; As per subject, whats with the blacks crushing? I do have 2 TV's that support Full RPG and of course a monitor, calibrating the tv's and xb1 still... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by RedEye Expr3ss, Mar 4, 2014.

  1. Crushed blacks on full RGB monitor or TV


    As per subject, whats with the blacks crushing? I do have 2 TV's that support Full RPG and of course a monitor, calibrating the tv's and xb1 still show's crushed blacks, changing to HDMI from Auto still has crushed black, 720 or 1080? Yep, still crushed
    blacks. Is there a problem? I have full rgb running fine on other appliances. I'd go limited if there is a known problem.

    :)
     
    RedEye Expr3ss, Mar 4, 2014
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  2. Thoughts on update?

    Couldn't get recent players to work, the OS needs a background or theme that works with the ads. Friends list is way better, still getting crushed blacks on full rgb with a full rgb monitor set to full rgb, which is odd since I have 3 other items hooked
    up functioning in full rgb, I think XB1 has a problem with this.
     
    RedEye Expr3ss, Mar 4, 2014
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  3. The Wee Bear
    The Wee Bear Guest
    Xbox one and full range rgb?

    Limited is recommended. You get crushed blacks on full RGB Harrissment. Crushed blacks on full RGB monitor or TV :eek:)
     
    The Wee Bear, Mar 4, 2014
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  4. Crushed blacks on full RGB monitor or TV

    After the update, I still have the crushed blacks in full rgb with my rgb monitor. I googled XB1 Crushed blacks and the links it bought up are a little alarming. Without any response to my question, I guess it's just another problem.
     
    RedEye Expr3ss, Mar 6, 2014
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  5. RedEye Expr3ss Win User

    Crushed blacks on full RGB monitor or TV

    After the update, I still have the crushed blacks in full rgb with my rgb monitor. I googled XB1 Crushed blacks and the links it bought up are a little alarming. Without any response to my question, I guess it's just another problem.
  6. RedEye Expr3ss Win User

    Thoughts on update?

    Couldn't get recent players to work, the OS needs a background or theme that works with the ads. Friends list is way better, still getting crushed blacks on full rgb with a full rgb monitor set to full rgb, which is odd since I have 3 other items hooked
    up functioning in full rgb, I think XB1 has a problem with this.
  7. JTF195 Win User

    Display Calibration and RGB, black levels

    As of the most recent Xbox 360 and Xbox One updates, the problem is still not fixed.

    I have my TV calibrated and configured properly. I have tested it with my both my PS3 and PC set to RGB Full and RGB Limited, and my Wii U (which outputs RGB Limited)

    It works perfectly with all 3 devices.

    On both the Xbox 360 and Xbox One, however, the output from the both the RGB Full and RGB limited options have 16 levels of black crushing and 16 levels of white crushing when the TV is set to the corresponding mode, and only look normal when the TV is set
    to RGB Full, and the Xbox is set to RGB Limited.

    I don't have recording equipment, but others have recorded output and tested the black levels in photoshop to verify this issue.

    Essentially the problem breaks down as follows:

    Black Levels

    15-239

    - PS RGB Limited option, Wii U, PC RGB Limited output

    0-255

    - Xbox RGB Limited option, PS RGB Full option, PC RGB Full output

    (-16)-271 (values out of range by 16 levels)

    - Incorrect Xbox RGB Full option
  8. JTF195 Win User

    Display Calibration and RGB, black levels

    This was an issue on the Xbox 360 and it was never fixed, so don't hold your breath.

    The issue is that the Xbox seems to output 0-255 black levels when set to RGB limited, causing the black and white levels to be crushed, even when the tv is set to RGB limited.

    And then when setting it to RGB Full, it seems to output even lower black levels and higher white levels, such that the black and white levels are still crushed when the TV is set to RGB Full, and even MORE crushed when set to RGB limited

    Setting the Xbox to RGB Limited and the TV to RGB Full seems to make the blacks and whites look normal, but intermediate shades (and colors) are washed out.

    The only workaround I've been able to find is to set the Xbox One's "TV Connection" setting to "DVI", which seems to fix the RGB limited and RGB full settings to their proper black levels, but you no longer have sound over HDMI.

    The best way I've found to test the black levels on the XB1 is to save a copy of the Lagom LCD black levels test image:

    www.lagom.nl/.../black.php

    and these grayscale gradient test images:

    www.lydogbilde.no/.../75285378.fButmPlS.GreyscaleStep8.jpg

    www.sixfortyfive.com/.../calibration_white.png

    to SkyDrive, and view them on the console each time I change a setting.
  9. The Wee Bear Win User

    Xbox one and full range rgb?

    Limited is recommended. You get crushed blacks on full RGB Harrissment. :eek:)
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