Closing the Book on Last Generation

Discus and support Closing the Book on Last Generation in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; .......... Hello "kanaye x" :) you said this .......... And alienate users who don't want / can't afford an XB1? Lose out potential sales when AAA... Discussion in 'XBoX on Consoles' started by Lei Fang DOAX3, Jun 6, 2015.

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    Hello "kanaye x" Closing the Book on Last Generation :)

    you said this

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    And alienate users who don't want / can't afford an XB1? Lose out potential sales when AAA development is hugely expensive? Really?

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    Here is my solution to the problem so that everyone is going to be happy, but it is going to be really really reallly expensive!

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    (1) Start the development of the game with 2 seperate teams (team Xbox 360 and team Xbox One)

    (2) Make the games at the same time. Team Xbox 360 will optimize the game for the Xbox 360 and Team Xbox One will optimize the game for the Xbox One. Obviously, the Xbox One version will have features that will not be available for the Xbox 360 version.

    (3) Release the game at the same time. If a version of the game is finished before the other one, it will wait until the other one is finished.

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    Now, everyone will be happy and the Xbox 360 will be optimized for the Xbox 360, but lack features that only the Xbox One version can accomodate.

    What do you think of this really really really expensive system to ensure the best quality for the Xbox 360 version and Xbox One version?

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    Have a nice day or afternoon or night "kanaye x" Closing the Book on Last Generation :)

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    Lei Fang DOAX3, Jun 7, 2015
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  2. BrianGunter
    BrianGunter Guest
    I think you would be bankrupt pretty quickly and never get to release a game if you were a developer. Closing the Book on Last Generation ;)
     
    BrianGunter, Jun 7, 2015
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  3. chemicalsora
    chemicalsora Guest
    "What do you think of this really really really expensive system to ensure the best quality for the Xbox 360 version and Xbox One version?"

    It's something publishers are already doing, for now.

    Back to the Advanced Warfare example, Sledgehammer Games is the developer but they're only responsible for maintaining XB1, PS4 and PC - High Moon Studios, a separate entity owned by Activision, is the port team - they're responsible for maintaining 360
    and PS3.

    It is my understanding that last gen players' experience with MP has been flaky, but I wouldn't know.
     
    chemicalsora, Jun 7, 2015
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  4. Closing the Book on Last Generation

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    Hello "kanaye x" Closing the Book on Last Generation :)

    You said this

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    It's something publishers are already doing, for now.

    Back to the Advanced Warfare example, Sledgehammer Games is the developer but they're only responsible for maintaining XB1, PS4 and PC - High Moon Studios, a separate entity owned by Activision, is the port team - they're responsible for maintaining 360
    and PS3.

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    How much longer do you think developers will be able to maintain this trend? Do you think that the developers will still be doing this in 2017?

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    Have a nice day or afternoon or night "kanaye x" Closing the Book on Last Generation :)

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    Lei Fang DOAX3, Jun 7, 2015
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  5. smileskybird
    smileskybird Guest
    Because it's still in its infancy. I can't think of any game in this generation or on previous ones that has (keyword) pushed the limits of what the hardware can do this early. Can you?

    when those games were made with current gen in mind and merely downgraded to fit last gen requirements.................... posted above Closing the Book on Last Generation :)

    Well put. Game developers are making games for Xbox 360 because Microsoft did a super awesome job on the Xbox 360 platform with the console's UI and Xbox Live Features that there is a higher active population on Xbox 360 than there is on Xbox 1. So game
    developers see a demand for putting it on last gen as well as making it for next gen. But Xbox 1 won't be turning 2 until November this year, it hasn't been out for long. Halo and Forza are in 1080p because the game developers probably know the system better
    and how to take advantage of the ESRAM memory which fact has a higher bandwidth (192GB/s) than even GDDR5 (176GB/s or something). And DDR3 has low latency so the DDR3 RAM has easy access to the ESRAM even though it's only a small amount of memory, it's fast
    memory. Halo is by 343 industries. Games made by them for Xbox 1 should be in 1080p since they're a Microsoft subsidiary so should 'know' the system's potential.

    Kinect Sports Rivals is not on Xbox 360 I think. Zoo Tycoon X360 version has no Kinect features no multiplayer smaller zoo population due to hardware restrictions. I have Screamride and Minecraft for BOTH Xbox 360 and Xbox 1 and I can honestly tell you the
    performance is better on Xbox 1 (as well as the graphics). But the XBL experience with friends is richer on Xbox 360 since there are fewer players on the Xbox 1 platform compared to Xbox 360 platform and Microsoft has got a lot of feedback on not everyone
    is for this Windows 8 UI, they prefer the Xbox 360 UI. Companies are going to keep supporting 360 as long as it's popular which it is. And at the same time, making games for a platform according to how they know the system's capabilities.
     
    smileskybird, Jun 7, 2015
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  6. chemicalsora
    chemicalsora Guest
    "How much longer do you think developers will be able to maintain this trend? Do you think that the developers will still be doing this in 2017?"

    Do I think this trend will continue in 2017? No. There will always be a reduced number of cross platform games, but everyone will have jumped to Gen 8 by then. It'd surprise me if the remaining major publishers dropped earlier than this date - Ubisoft said
    that they're not making any more Gen 7 games for instance.
     
    chemicalsora, Jun 8, 2015
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  7. Hello "kanaye x" Closing the Book on Last Generation :)

    I don't know why, but for some reason I think that were still going to be seeing tons of Xbox 360 games ported from the Xbox One by 2017.

    Have a nice day or afternoon or night "kanaye x" Closing the Book on Last Generation :)
     
    Lei Fang DOAX3, Jun 8, 2015
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  8. fuelldbyhate
    fuelldbyhate Guest

    Closing the Book on Last Generation

    well see, IF Im not mistaken Elders Scrolls is NOT on the 360?? Im downloading it on my ONE right now an I will bet its going to be epic!
     
    fuelldbyhate, Jun 12, 2015
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  9. kingvas78
    kingvas78 Guest
    Just came home and found a copy of Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas waiting for me..... guess my 360 aint going to be buried yet...... woot!! (I love my wife!)
     
    kingvas78, Jun 12, 2015
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    Hello "kingvas78" Closing the Book on Last Generation :)

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    I hope that you enjoy them, I love Fallout 3.

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    Have a nice day or afternoon or night "kingvas78" Closing the Book on Last Generation :)

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    Lei Fang DOAX3, Jun 13, 2015
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  11. kingvas78
    kingvas78 Guest
    Thanks Lei Fang, so far enjoying New Vegas, has a Skyrim feel which is what I was hoping to experience. Fallout 4 will be a day one buy for me on my X1.

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    It is quite interesting going back to my 360...... makes me appreciate my X1 that much more. I know I sound like a broken record here but between the poor controller feel (compared to the X1), the noise the 360 makes!! (OMG...... I forgot how loud it is
    playing a disc)..... it is time to let the last gen.

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    360= a car with a carburetor and a V4

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    X1 = a car with EFI and a V8 turbo + chip!
     
    kingvas78, Jun 13, 2015
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  12. John Dowding
    John Dowding Guest
    If you havnt played either of them before 3 is the better game and will introduce Vaults lore much better. Leaving the vault for the first time in 3 is a truly epic gaming moment!
     
    John Dowding, Jun 13, 2015
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    I don't let little things like disk drive sound or slightly degraded graphics get to me. I could easily fire up my 360 and play it again, if there was a game that I felt like playing, which is about zero right now. I would LOVE to go back to Fallout 3,
    but I feel like it was adequately completed. And I'm not like my friend that can put 200 hours into a game and start over again for another 200 hours. I only did that with like 2 games in my gaming history.
     
    BizarroMantis, Jun 13, 2015
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    Hello "BizarroMantis" Closing the Book on Last Generation :)

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    I am the same way too when it comes to games (not wanting to start all over again with a new character after I beat the game).

    The only time that I've ever played a 2nd run through with a new character was in Mass Effect (got deleted because I got tired of it) and Diablo 3 (still there).

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    Have a nice day or afternoon or night "BizarroMantis" Closing the Book on Last Generation :)

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    Lei Fang DOAX3, Jun 13, 2015
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  15. smileskybird
    smileskybird Guest
    I haven't been on my Xbox 1 console in 7 days. I'm on it now. Just goes to show what a great job Microsoft does with Xbox 360. To me, Xbox 360 still has the most HYPE, since it has a higher active population than Xbox 1 does. Some may say why did I get an
    Xbox 1 Day One edition console with Kinect, well I was immature and it is Xbox. And I like to experience what both, not just 360, are like. Some people have regretted trading in their 360's for Xbox 1. Other's may be jealous not to have an Xbox 1.
     
    smileskybird, Jun 13, 2015
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