Cant gameshare

So me and my friends tried to gameshare. The first time i gameshared was thanksgiving in 2014. Today july 25 2016 it said i couldnt gameshare. I logged into his account work fine. He did the same with my account it said i had to wait and only worked 3 times.
I dont know what to do. Last time i gameshared was 2014. Help me thank you

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I want to gameshare with my brother but i cant cause of the preview update

i cant gameshare cause of the stupid preview update

 

Xbox Home Problems

Hello, Im not sure if im the only one but i want to gameshare with a friend, I cant as it says it was unable to save changes. We both have gameshare switches. Please help me.

 

This post recommends not doing that.
forums.xbox.com/.../2187985.aspx

If you really want to anyway only Microsoft Support would be able to reset your number of shares if at all.

 

Yup as i stated in that thread that was referenced:

The xbox "home" feature is only meant for sharing games accross xbox ones that YOU OWN. Not for gamesharing with friends.

Doing so is considered marketplace theft and can get both you and your friend permanently banned. Also when you get permanently banned you forfeit all access to your digital games, dlc, remaining xbl gold
membership,etc without refund.

What are some specific examples of marketplace theft?

Marketplace theft includes, but isn’t limited to:

Getting, asking for, or using redemption codes illegitimately

Transferring licenses to your console from an account that you didn’t create

Using a system glitch or loophole for financial gain

Using any sort of “shared” account to avoid having to pay for games or content

Successfully redeeming or giving away a code and contacting customer support claiming the code didn’t work

Attempting to defraud Microsoft or authorized agents

Fraudulently transferring content licenses

Sharing account credentials

Asking to be added to someone’s third party subscription (such as Netflix, Hulu, etc.), in order to avoid restrictions or payment

What sort of enforcement can I expect for marketplace theft?
If you involve yourself with marketplace theft, your account can be permanently suspended. Especially egregious or repeated violations may lead to a device ban.

 

MJ23

You will have to contact support directly as they are the only ones that can reset that counter. Keep in mind since there is a 3 change per year limit they are not obligated to do it but definitely worth a try.
support.xbox.com/.../contact-us

 

Genesis and KindGryphon are both correct

Please use the link Genesis posted and please do be aware the consequences as stated by KindGryphon above overly contacting the support regarding the same issue can be seen as Support abuse.

KindGryphon i did send you a PM make sure you check it. Thanks

 

You do not lose access to all digital games upon a permanent account and/or console suspension.

Also, technically-speaking, this isn't Marketplace Theft because it falls within the bounds of the usage rules.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/10563/windows-10-usage-rules-games-music--movies-tv-shows

 

@AmuricanPatriot

YES. YOU DO lose access to everything when you get permanently banned.

UPON RECEIVING A PERMANENT SUSPENSION, YOU FORFEIT ALL CONTENT LICENSES, GOLD MEMBERSHIP TIME, AND MICROSOFT ACCOUNT BALANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THE SUSPENDED ACCOUNT.

That was found here:

www.xbox.com/.../CodeOfConduct

And YES it is marketplace theft.

Marketplace theft is getting content you DID NOT PAY FOR.

When you gameshare you are either recieving or giving content to someone who DID NOT PAY FOR IT.

So yes it would be considered gamesharing as its theft to the developers who made the game.

 

You should really read up on the ToS/CoC because it sounds like you really dont understand it all that well. Doing so may save you from a ban in the future.

 

enforcement.xbox.com/.../howto

I got suspended. Does this mean I lose all of my games?

When a permanent account suspension is issued, XBLPET does not actively revoke an account's purchases or licenses or otherwise render existing content unplayable. Any content that has been downloaded and can be accessed without an internet connection can
continue to be used by the affected account offline. Content downloaded to the suspended account’s Home Xbox One console can also continue to be used by other accounts present on the console.

However, once an account has been permanently suspended, it will not be able to re-download previous content or purchase new content. This is because a permanent suspension completely blocks the account from accessing the Xbox Live service. Any digital licenses
that are already downloaded remain intact, but keep in mind that any game titles or specific features that require online services will not be useable.

twitter.com/.../506909972383289344

support.microsoft.com/.../windows-10-usage-rules-games-music--movies-tv-shows

Usage rules for digital games purchased on Xbox Consoles

Xbox One Digital Games

How many consoles can I use a game on?

You'll get a device license and a user license to every game you download from the Xbox Store. You can designate one console as your “Home” console and multiple users can select the same console for their Home console. The device license will automatically
attach to your Home console, even if it’s not the console you're making the purchase from. As the purchaser of the game, the user license will be associated with your Xbox Live account.

Who can use my game?

Anyone can use your game on your Home console under your device license. When you log onto any other console with your Xbox Live account, you may use all games to which you have a user license.

Can I change my Home console to a different console?

You can change which console is your Home console up to 3 times during a one year period (365 days). When you change Home consoles, all device licenses for digital content will move to your new Home console and will no longer be available on your old “Home”
console.

The one who needs to read up is you, my friend. And "theft?" Really? That's a very strong word to be casually tossing around here. Whoever you let use your "Home" console/device license is up to you, and you aren't stealing anything. Nothing on that page
you quoted from states that Home console sharing is considered Marketplace Theft, and many of their own employees have stated so. Stop acting as a scaremonger, please. Thank you.

 

If you ever change which console is your home console or your account ever gets deleted off your system then YES, you do lose access to any downloaded content.

Also the page i quoted states using any sort of shared account to avoid having to pay for content is considered marketplace theft. It doesnt need to say anything about gamesharing.

So let me ask this:

When you gameshare with someone else, lets say a friend you keep that content but your friend also gets it too. Did your friend pay the developer of said game? No? Didnt think so. They are essentially taking something they did not pay for. Which
is the very definition of theft.

Also the home console change is meant for changing home consoles fo xbox ones that YOU own. Not for friends to get free games without having to pay.

http://support.xbox.com/en-US/games/game-setup/my-home-xbox also states:

The My home Xbox setting allows you to do the following:

Share games and downloadable content purchased from the Store with anyone else who signs in on
your console.

You can even share games downloaded as part of a subscription.

Share your Xbox Live Gold subscription with anyone else who signs in on
your console.

It doesnt say your friends console. It says YOUR console.

Also that twitter post you showed is from general support who have nothing to do with the actual enforcement team

I also just send out several tweets myself to both @XBoX and @majornelson. So we will see if they respond and set the record straight i guess.

Will update once they respond.

 

First off, resorting to using capitalized letters doesn't lend credence to the points you're trying to justify in the slightest. In the future, I'd recommend avoiding doing so.

If you ever change which console is your home console or your account ever gets deleted off your system then YES, you do lose access to any downloaded content.



This statement is very analogous to saying that breaking, losing, or otherwise rendering a physical game disc inoperable would cause you to lose access to your content. Yes, those scenarios are possible but not absolute. Those are two very big "ifs" you've
listed. The overall takeaway is that that specific statement within the Code of Conduct is not wholly accurate in what it says because it suggests that users lose access to all of their licenses immediately upon a permanent suspension, which is clearly untrue
more often than not. Hence, you shouldn't always take every statement you read on their pages as absolute gospel.

Also the page i quoted states using any sort of shared account to avoid having to pay for content is considered marketplace theft. It doesnt need to say anything about gamesharing.



A feature of the console is not a "shared account." You don't need to share account credentials or otherwise provide someone else access to your account to use the feature of the console. In fact, the option to enable this feature is not even listed under
the "Account" section in settings, nor does your account even need to remain on the Xbox One console.

So let me ask this:

When you gameshare with someone else, lets say a friend you keep that content but your friend also gets it too. Did your friend pay the developer of said game? No? Didnt think so. They are essentially taking something they did not pay for. Which
is the very definition of theft.



Your friend (or anyone else who you let use your "Home" console") doesn't need to pay the developers of the game in order to access the device license. That's one of the two primary functionalities of the feature to begin with. The definition of theft
is: the action or crime of stealing. To steal is to: take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.
In this case, you are well within your legal right and have Microsoft's permission to let someone else use your "Home" Xbox One console's device license. It's expressly written into the license agreement when it states that, "Anyone can use your game
on your Home console under your device license." They place no restriction on where your "Home" console is located. Going along with your logic, letting any other account aside from your own use your "Home" console or sharing a game disc's license would be
theft, correct? You own the license to the game, and who you let access it is entirely discretionary.

Also the home console change is meant for changing home consoles fo xbox ones that YOU own. Not for friends to get free games without having to pay.



I would agree with this statement, but whether the "Home" console is or isn't meant to be used in certain ways is irrelevant unless it is expressly mentioned in the license agreement. Nowhere in any of their policies do they restrict which console you
are allowed to designate as a the "Home" console, or where the "Home" console resides.

The My home Xbox setting allows you to do the following:

Share games and downloadable content purchased from the Store with anyone else who signs in on your console.

You can even share games downloaded as part of a subscription.

Share your Xbox Live Gold subscription with anyone else who signs in on your console.

It doesnt say your friends console. It says YOUR console.



Nowhere on the Support page you linked does it expressly say that you are
not allowed to set it to another console, or that you must do so to your console.

In fact, the scenario of your "Home" console being designated as the friend's console is mentioned in the embedded video on the page you linked:


The video makes no assertion that this a violation or that you are required or should switch it back to your own console.

Also that twitter post you showed is from general support who have nothing to do with the actual enforcement team

I also just send out several tweets myself to both @XBoX and @majornelson. So we will see if they respond and set the record straight i guess.

Will update once they respond.

While it is true that Support is a different team from Enforcement, this by no means suggests that they lack accurate information regarding Microsoft's policies or invalidates them as a source of information regarding this inquiry. Many of the representatives
with whom I spoke are trained not only to say that this is a feature of the console, but they will even assist you in setting it up properly with a friend. XBLPET is not going to penalize players when their own representatives say that this is fine, in at
least some cases both players could be "game-sharing" without even being aware of it, and people can be legal residents of multiple "households." If they wished to penalize people for this, they would need to amend their legalese to make this expressly known
to be forbidden.

Major Nelson most likely will not reply to you about this. I just spoke with him in person a few hours ago about this and he said that as long as someone else isn't using your account you should be good.

 

Hmm so thats funny.

Xbox responded on twitter to me and just sent me here:

enforcement.xbox.com/.../staysafe

They just sent me to the same page i quoted that states what is considered marketplace theft.

Wonder why? ***sarcasm***

 

May I ask, what did you ask them?